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Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:07 pm

Just checking Expedia (I know they don't always show the cheapest option) shows fares starting at €270 return for the end of July. Is there any cheaper option here?
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:41 pm

Any reason why you are not considering taking the train? Rome-Napoli is only 1.5 hours on Eurostar Italia. Return on 1st class is €72, 2nd class is €50.
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:02 pm

Any idea flys Rome to Naples ? it must be a short flight!
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:06 pm

Alitalia operate 4 times ROM NAP with MD80/82 -50 minutes block to block

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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:13 pm

Quoting KEno (Reply 1):
Any reason why you are not considering taking the train? Rome-Napoli is only 1.5 hours on Eurostar Italia.

TIME! We have friends staying in Positano and we are only going for a weekend. We want to hook-up with them for as long as possible.

Quoting Lxlgu (Reply 3):
Alitalia operate 4 times ROM NAP with MD80/82 -50 minutes block to block

Are there any fares cheaper than €270?????????
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:26 pm

Hi Braybuddy!
It quotes me 248 Euros plus taxes

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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:30 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 4):
TIME! We have friends staying in Positano and we are only going for a weekend. We want to hook-up with them for as long as possible.

Sorry but you are a bit prejudiced I must say.
The train is hands down the fastest way to get to Positano.
You take the Eurostar from Roma Termini to Napoli Campi Flegre, then change trains to Castellammare Di Stabia. From there it's a 26km/16mi drive to Positano. Travel time from Rome is 2h55min. So in less than three hours your friends can pick you up very close to Positano. There is no way air transport is going to beat this travel time, no matter how fast you fly between FCO and NAP, you're gonna loose all that time trying to get to FCO and from NAP to Positano.
For more information, journey times and train fares see http://www.trenitalia.com/en/index.html (in English)

On a very much unrelated side note I had two very memorable flights on I-DISO, an Alitalia 777 named "Positano"  Wink
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:30 pm

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 6):
Sorry but you are a bit prejudiced I must say.
The train is hands down the fastest way to get to Positano.
You take the Eurostar from Roma Termini to Napoli Campi Flegre, then change trains to Castellammare Di Stabia. From there it's a 26km/16mi drive to Positano. Travel time from Rome is 2h55min. So in less than three hours your friends can pick you up very close to Positano. There is no way air transport is going to beat this travel time, no matter how fast you fly between FCO and NAP, you're gonna loose all that time trying to get to FCO and from NAP to Positano.
For more information, journey times and train fares see http://www.trenitalia.com/en/index.html (in English)

On a very much unrelated side note I had two very memorable flights on I-DISO, an Alitalia 777 named "Positano"  

Totally 100% agree my partner is from Naples and always takes the train as its cheaper and quicker ..Forget the plane on this journey..
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:44 pm

PHKLM is right! Even if you were to fly, you have a 2 hour checkin, at least 20' sitting in the plane on the ground before you even lift off, another 10-15' after landing just getting to the terminal, the fight to get OUT of the terminal which in Napoli can be interesting,( perish the thought you checked bags that probably won't arrive), and then you first have to get from the airport to the train station, at least 20', and find your way to the circovesuviana. (By the way, if you have time to kill for lunch, a little place called Da Michaeli makes the ultimate pizza in Naples, and is a 5' walk from the station. Highly recommended, and everyone knows about it, but back to our story)

The air transit time more than eats up the duration of the ride from Termini on the Eurostar. (And book 2nd Class. There is really no difference on a trip that short). I love to fly, and would agree with you if your friends were in Venice and you were in Rome. Don't fly in this situation, you won't save a minute of time, and will probably actually lose time.
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:15 pm

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 6):
From there it's a 26km/16mi drive to Positano.

Which, at the end of July will take about 2 hours to cover, more at weekend!

Plus, where the would he get a hire car from near Castellammare station ?! It's hardly Grand Central or Waterloo !

He'll be too preoccupied keeping his eyes on his valuables anyway !

I have to disagree with the others. If you can get a cheap flight, take it. Pick up a car from a reputable firm at the airport (no dragging your luggage around Castellammare station in the July heat), and then enjoy the drive and some of the most beautiful views in the world. No stress, no fuss.

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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:21 am

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 6):
, you're gonna loose all that time trying to get to FCO and from NAP to Positano.

But if we're already in FCO it makes sense, provieded the fare is reasonable!
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:18 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 10):
But if we're already in FCO it makes sense, provieded the fare is reasonable!

So you're staying at the airport or what?  Wink


I'm inclined to agree with the above posters, i seriously doubt that you will get there any remarkable time sooner with the plane than the train. It's a very short journey.
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:59 am

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 6):
The train is hands down the fastest way to get to Positano. You take the Eurostar from Roma Termini to Napoli Campi Flegre, then change trains to Castellammare Di Stabia. From there it's a 26km/16mi drive to Positano. Travel time from Rome is 2h55min. So in less than three hours your friends can pick you up very close to Positano. There is no way air transport is going to beat this travel time, no matter how fast you fly between FCO and NAP

I concur. The high-speed train from Rome to Naples is faster, more comfortable, and cheaper than air travel on that route. In Naples, change trains for either Castellammare or Sorrento. From either Castellammare or Sorrento, take a taxi the last few miles to Positano. Tell the taxi driver to take the SS163 route, which cuts over the mountains toward Positano and lops off a winding and nasty portion of the Amalfi coast road. Air travel on that route just doesn't make sense.

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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:12 pm

Quoting ChinaClipper40 (Reply 12):
The high-speed train from Rome to Naples is faster, more comfortable, and cheaper than air travel on that route. In Naples, change trains for either Castellammare or Sorrento. From either Castellammare or Sorrento, take a taxi the last few miles to Positano. Tell the taxi driver to take the SS163 route, which cuts over the mountains toward Positano and lops off a winding and nasty portion of the Amalfi coast road.

But if we could fly from FCO for around €100 return it would be so much easier.
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:30 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 13):
But if we could fly from FCO for around €100 return it would be so much easier

How easier? Once you get to Napoli by air, you STILL need to transfer to rail (or auto rental) to get down to the Amalfi coast, where Positano is located. So you've got the air transfer at FCO from international to domestic for your flight to Napoli, THEN the transfer at Napoli to the rail connection to Castellammare Di Stabia or Sorrento, THEN the highway trip (taxi, bus, rental car, your friends, whatever) to Positano. You'll spend more time doing all that than simply taking the train from Roma to Castellammare Di Stabia (if you take the right trains, it only involves one change of trains), and then a taxi to Positano. And you're not going to find an airfare Roma-Napoli-Roma to beat the 44 Euros roundtrip that the train will cost for Roma-Castellammare-Roma. However, it is clear from all your comments that you are determined to do it by air anyway, despite all advice to the contrary. You are obviously in the enviable financial position of being able to dismiss the savings of roughly 225 Euros per person as a mere trifle. And you would obviously rather spend more time traveling than is necessary, just so long as the extra time is spent in the air or in an air terminal waiting for a connecting flight. So, all one can say is - enjoy your weekend with your friends; the Amalfi coast is very lovely, and I'm sure that you will have a good time. But why ask for advice if your mind is already made up?

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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:51 pm

Quoting ChinaClipper40 (Reply 14):
So you've got the air transfer at FCO from international to domestic for your flight to Napoli,

According to Expedia, Alitalia fly from Fiumicino to Naples, so that would save having to travel into the city.

Quoting ChinaClipper40 (Reply 14):
But why ask for advice if your mind is already made up?

I wasn't looking for advice on different travel options, I wanted to know if there were cheaper flights than the €270 return quoted by Expedia.
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:48 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 15):
Quoting ChinaClipper40 (Reply 14):So you've got the air transfer at FCO from international to domestic for your flight to Napoli,
According to Expedia, Alitalia fly from Fiumicino to Naples, so that would save having to travel into the city.

Quoting ChinaClipper40 (Reply 14):But why ask for advice if your mind is already made up?
I wasn't looking for advice on different travel options, I wanted to know if there were cheaper flights than the €270 return quoted by Expedia.

Hey im sure you will have a great time in Positano ,,But i will say there is no way i would even consider flying between rome and naples its just not worth it .. The trains there are amazing and so fast .. They will get you to positano so much quicker than you will ever do flying.. Thats my advice otherwise enjoy your short expensive flight that in the end will take longer ..
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:34 pm

I really can't believe so many people are actually endorsing him to travel through Castellammare !

There are reasons why it's one of the few places in the area not on the tourist trail.

Simply put, if you're a tourist, unfamiliar with the town and with lots of luggage, in July, I'd avoid Castellammare at all costs, but I only live near there, so take your choice.

If you do end up taking the train and a taxi, you are letting yourself in for being ripped off big time, so be alert, be aware and be wise; english isn't as widely understood by taxi drivers as in, say Rome, but some will play on it and pretend not to understand you "ah, scusi, sono spiacente, non capisco, you english, si ? .....blah blah blah." Try to look savvy, try to look like you're familiar with the route, and he will be less likely to take you the scenic route round the houses.

The other option I would really recommend if you have time, just for the sake of doing it, would be to take the hydrofoil from Naples to Positano. It's pretty unique and you get great views of the coastline, Vesuvius, the bay of Naples and Capri. Whether you connect from train or plane, there will be plenty of other tourists doing the same.

Enjoy your trip !

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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:34 pm

The cheapest fare is apparently 105 EUR + 94 EUR in taxes, which results in 199 EUR. As taxes alone are 94 EUR, you will not be able to find any 100 EUR all incl. tickets on a route that is a low-frequency, low-volume one-carrier route (for reasons well explained above). The fare is called "Facile" and can be booked, amongst others, directly on www.alitalia.it. I remember there were times where fares could be reduced 10 or 15 EUR by using a promotional code on certain weekdays, but I don't know if they still have this.

[Edited 2007-04-14 16:36:09]
 
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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:24 am

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 17):
I really can't believe so many people are actually endorsing him to travel through Castellammare

Okay, so stay on the train 5 or 6 more minutes and get off at Sorrento. In more than 50 years of travel to that area, I have never encountered a taxi driver in Sorrento who didn't speak English well.

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 17):
If you do end up taking the train and a taxi, you are letting yourself in for being ripped off big time, so be alert, be aware and be wise; english isn't as widely understood by taxi drivers as in, say Rome

So, do what one does EVERYWHERE in the world when on holiday or business travel (even Ireland). Negotiate the FULL fare in advance, before getting into the taxi. And if the fare isn't to your liking, just walk away. You'd be surprised how VERY quickly the fare comes down as the frantic taxi driver races after you, trying to rescue the seemingly lost business. Last summer in Beijing, my final fare from airport to centre city was one-fifth of what was originally quoted to me simply because I kept walking - loudly saying "too much" as every new fare was quoted to me until it finally reached the level my business colleagues in Beijing had told me in advance by email was an appropriate fare. People who don't know how to travel in a savvy manner get screwed.

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 17):
The other option I would really recommend...would be to take the hydrofoil from Naples to Positano. It's pretty unique and you get great views of the coastline, Vesuvius, the bay of Naples and Capri. Whether you connect from train or plane, there will be plenty of other tourists doing the same.

I absolutely concur. The hydrofoil is fast and lovely. And it lands you right in Positano. But negotiate the fare on that in advance also. I've had ticket agents for the Capri and Amalfi coast hydrofoils size me up as a sucker and try to scalp me on the fare.

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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:21 am

Quoting ChinaClipper40 (Reply 19):
Last summer in Beijing, my final fare from airport to centre city was one-fifth of what was originally quoted to me simply because I kept walking - loudly saying "too much" as every new fare was quoted to me until it finally reached the level my business colleagues in Beijing had told me in advance by email was an appropriate fare.

You got me in stitches !! "Mabel, keep moving....." ROFL  laughing 

Quoting ChinaClipper40 (Reply 19):
People who don't know how to travel in a savvy manner get screwed.

 alert  Quite so; just remember though that the Italians are just that little bit better at screwing !  Wow!

Quoting ChinaClipper40 (Reply 19):
The hydrofoil is fast and lovely.

Couldn't have put it better myself  checkmark 

Hey, me old China, how about we set up an agency for all this info ?!!  wink 

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RE: Flying Rome-Naples

Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:28 am

Ditto what folks said about the train. I've done that route many times it is not bad, other than the fact you are going to Naples  Wink

For airfare you can go to www.skyscanner.net and search from Rome to Naples and check various days. It is a handy website (though I don't think it links to AirOne)

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