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Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:52 pm

Hey a.netters,

I was just messing around with the photo engine on a.net and a searched for pics under Aero Califoria and I began to wonder if this is where IB got their idea of their current livery. It looks so similar. Any thoughts?

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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:25 pm

I think it has to do with the climate as well as with the culture.

Iberia's colors reflect those of its national flag, which are tipically associated with the Mediterranean climate of Andalucia, the state most representative of Spanish culture.

AeroCalifornia's colors also represent the Mediterranean climate that characterizes the two Californias, one which is on Mexican territory, the other U.S. territory.

It is stated by many experts that California's climate is exactly like that of Spain. As you may know, California was once part of the large Spanish empire, and California itself is a Spanish word. So maybe here lies the answer to your question.

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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:31 pm

How long are Aero California operating, that IB colour scheme dates from the 70's.
Also there is a lot more to Spain than Andalucia, there was not much happening there pre 60's. It does though have the magnificent Alhambra, but then again that's not Spanish, it's Moorish.
But i agree with you on the livery, in the 70's a major part of Iberia's purpose was to bring tourists to the Sun resorts, so the livery was probably designed to represent that. I don't think they even operate from Malaga to any european city anymore.
 
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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:30 am

Aerocalifornia started operations in or around 1982. This renders Iberia's livery prior to theirs, as I have a photograph of myself with an IB B741 named "Calderón de la Barca", sporting the current livery, on my first transatlantic flight, back in 1978.

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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:19 am

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 1):
Andalucia, the state most representative of Spanish culture.

I always thought of Castille as the core of Spanish culture and Andalucia as a sort of poor relation. A black sheep if you will.

To me AeroCalifornia reminded me of the later livery of the US carrier AirCal which looked like this:

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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:23 am

To me it looks more similar to the old Frontier livery:


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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:25 am

All I know is both are one of the BEST liveries around, especially among latin airlines.

I hope they never get changed, if the new Delta puke is any indication of how it's gonna look like  Smile
 
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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:14 am

Warm climate, warm colors. Pretty basic relationship between the geography and the liveries.
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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:01 pm

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 7):
Warm climate, warm colors. Pretty basic relationship between the geography and the liveries

Correct. Like I said, the climate that you find along the large populated areas in California like San Francisco, San Jose, Monterey, Santa Maria, Santa Barbara, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Juan Capistrano, etc. etc. are Mediterranean climate. The cities situated further in the valleys (Fresno, Bakersfield, Modesto) are Desert climate. Most of California's based airlines as well as other companies have have taken this into consideration and so the colors used in their corporate identity reflect this tradition.


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The unforgetable PSA - Pacific Southwest Airlines - based in San Diego


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Skywest Airlines


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Golden West - I believe they were from Fresno.


So you see, all of these carriers used similar if not the same colors used by both Iberia/AeroCafornia.

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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:07 pm

To expand upon the "local color" theory, I can offer these additions:

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In addition, there are some more obvious ones:

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Quoting Latinplane (Reply 8):
Golden West - I believe they were from Fresno.

I don't remember precisely where their corporate HQ was located, but they were definitely hubbed at LAX. IIRC, the closest they came to FAT was SBA to the northwest and IYK to the northeast. Perhaps you were thinking of the old Skywest (more below)-, which covered Northern and Central California with Shorts 360s in the 70s/80s. I can't find a picture, but I recall the livery had reddish tones.

The old Golden West livery is worth including:

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FWIW, the Skywest Metro shown above still carries the "new" Sun Aire c/s, so that example is not indicative of Skywest's true colors. Here are the new and old Sun Aire liveries:

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RE: Iberia/ Aero California Livery

Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:10 pm

All this reminds me of the 1970's "earth color scheme"
browns, orange/red and gold were very popular.

CO had this scheme ON their planes,
EA had this scheme IN their planes.

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