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Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:54 am

I was watching a QANTAS 747 taxi at SFO yesterday, and while passing idle time, got to wondering about airline name acronyms. I could only think of four. We all (well, most of us) know the origin of the name, QANTAS: "Queensland and Northern Territories Aerial Services". There's also PANAGRA, "Pan American-Grace Airways". And SABENA was "Société Anonyme Belge d'Exploitation de la Navigation Aérienne". VARIG was "Viação Aérea RIo Grandense."

I was wondering if any of you could come up with others, current or in history. I suspect there are more Latin American ones out there.

I don't suppose anyone called BOAC "Bow-ack", but that was mostly before my time, so I can't say for sure. Would have been funny, though.

For the sake of standardization, let's find ones with more than two words. i.e. PanAm is too short and less interesting. (I'm not sure that even qualifies as an acronym, but for lack of anything better, I'll consider it the same category.) More than three would be even better. Also, let's avoid the humorous but unofficial derogatory ones.

So, there's a challenge to start the week.

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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:57 am

Even more fun were the substitution acronyms given by inventive passengers. BOAC, for example, morphed into "Better on a Camel." SABENA was a juicy one, but the sequence escapes me at the moment. Anyone remember more of these?
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:58 am

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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:59 am

TAP
ANA
KLM
LOT
VASP

to name a few
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:03 am

Quoting Rampart (Thread starter):
I was wondering if any of you could come up with others, current or in history.

TWA - Trans World Airlines
SAS - Scandinavian Airlines System
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:04 am

TAM started out as Transporte Aereo Marilia, changed into Transportes Aereos Meridionais, and some time ago changed to simply TAM.

VASP - Viacao Aerea Sao Paulo (defunct)

TRIP - Transportes Regionais do Interior Paulista

TAF - Transporte Aereo de Fortaleza (small airline)

BRA - Brasil Rodo Aereo

That's all that comes to my mind right now. Latin Americans are the champions of acronyms. We like long names, they are just about everywhere.
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:05 am

TAM
LAN
TWA
ATA (well, not officially anymore)
BMI
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:09 am

Quoting Tgocean (Reply 1):
Even more fun were the substitution acronyms given by inventive passengers. BOAC, for example, morphed into "Better on a Camel." SABENA was a juicy one, but the sequence escapes me at the moment. Anyone remember more of these?

Sabena- Societe Belge de exploitation de navigation aerienne (i think), also known as Such A Bad Experience Never Again

Alitalia- Aerolinee Italiane Internazionali, also known as Always Late In Take Off Always Late In Arrival and Aircraft Landed in Tokyo All Luggage in Athens
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:14 am

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 4):
TWA - Trans World Airlines
SAS - Scandinavian Airlines System



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 3):
TAP
ANA
KLM
LOT
VASP

to name a few

Thanks, but not what I'm getting at. I'm looking for pronouncable acronyms. I don't know anyone talking about flying "Twah", "Sass", "Anna", or "Klim". I would presume people simply say "Lot" rather than "El-Oh-Tee", so that would be a qualified if bland example. VASP is a good one, if indeed people pronounced it "Vasp". If still confused, go back to my examples of "Kwant-as", "Pan-Ah-Grah", "Sah-Bee-nah", and "Va-reeg" for clarification.

Quoting Tgocean (Reply 1):
BOAC, for example, morphed into "Better on a Camel."

Those would be good, but also not what I was looking for (there are legions of them), hence my original statement:

Quoting Rampart (Thread starter):
let's avoid the humorous but unofficial derogatory ones.

Thanks, keep them coming!

-Rampart
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:20 am

Quoting Rampart (Reply 8):
I don't know anyone talking about flying "Twah", "Sass", "Anna", or "Klim"

I have heard "Ahna" for ANA and "Jal" for JAL. Though I do not know if it is the common practice in Japan.
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:27 am

AA - American Airlines
NW - Northwest
UA - United Airlines

BA - British Airways
VA - Virgin Atlantic/America

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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:33 am

Quoting Rampart (Reply 8):
Thanks, but not what I'm getting at. I'm looking for pronouncable acronyms. I don't know anyone talking about flying "Twah", "Sass", "Anna", or "Klim". I would presume people simply say "Lot" rather than "El-Oh-Tee", so that would be a qualified if bland example.

SAS is a sort of a pronouncable acronym. In all the Scandinavian countries are SAS pronounced "sass" and not "s-a-s", and even SAS officials use "sass"
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:34 am

These are the ones that occurred to me:

TACA - Transportes Aereos Centroamericanos
LAN - Linea Aerea Nacional
PLUNA - Primera Linea Uruguaya de Navegacion Aerea
JAT - Jugoslovenski Aerotransport
JAL - Japan Airlines
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:36 am

Quoting WestWing (Reply 9):


I have heard "Ahna" for ANA

I stand corrected! Thanks. I also stand corrected for SAS. I am not corrected on AA, NW, UA, BA. pr PSA (did someone actually pronounce it "pissay"??). Those don't count. Read original post. Keep trying!

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 7):
Alitalia- Aerolinee Italiane Internazionali

"Alitalia" is a good and obvious one I missed!

Did anyone ever pronounce the acronym CAAC, as "Caack"?

-Rampart

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[Edited 2007-04-23 20:41:23]
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:39 am

VIASA
CONVIASA
UTA
PSA
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:08 am

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 3):
LOT

LOT isn't an acronym. It's an abbreviation of Polskie Linie Lotnicze which, in true creative Polish form, means Polish Airline (or, for those DL fans out there, Polish Air Line).

On a historic note, when PZ was LAP, it was Lineas Aereas Paraguas

UC was Linea Aerea de Cobre

5U is Lineas Aereas del Estado
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:10 am

Quoting Cactus742 (Reply 6):
BMI

Which people often assume stands for British Midland International - WRONG! It actually does not stand for anything, but I guess it still 'echoes' British Midland.

From the UK there were also:

BEA: British European Airways (merged with BOAC to become British Airways)
BOAC: British Overseas Airways Corporation (see above)

TEA UK: Trans European Airlines UK

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Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:15 am

BKS = Barnaby Keegan Stevens
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:44 am

I believe TAROM is one, for Transporturile Aeriene ROMâne (Romanian Air Transport), at least according to wikipedia...
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:01 am

British European Airways are now billing themselves as Flybe (pronounced Fly Bee) which is half acronym...
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:08 am

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 3):



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 15):

LOT is neither an acronym nor a translation of Polskie Linie Lotnicze - "lot" is the Polish word for "flight".
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:13 am

MALÉV - Magyar Légiforgalmi Vállalat ,or in english it is something like: Hungarian Aerial-traffic Company
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:14 am

Well Air NZ used to be 2 airlines

the international sides was TEAL or TASMAN EMPIRE AIRWAYS LTD
the domestic side was NAC or NATIONAL AIRWAYS CORPORATION
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:15 am

LACSA - Líneas Aéreas Costaricences S.A.
ANA - All Nippon Airways
BMI - British Midland International
LTU - Lufttransportunternehmen (originally founded as Lufttransportunion)
TAM - Transportes Aéreos Meridionais
CAAC - Civil Aviation Authority of China (which also was the Chinese national carrier until it split up into CA and most other Chinese airlines, though the CAAC is now just the Chinese CAA)
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:17 am

Quoting Adamlaskiewicz (Reply 20):
LOT is neither an acronym nor a translation of Polskie Linie Lotnicze - "lot" is the Polish word for "flight".

It's also the root of just about every word relating to flying (samolot, lotnisko, latac, etc.). And though it would be delightfully Polish to call the airline "Flight," I've never been sure that that's the intention with LOT. Otherwise, why would they capitalize it?
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:35 am

Guys.... TAP, KLM etc are not acronyms they are merely abbreviations. An acronym is an abbreviation that forms a pronouncable word. QANTAS is a good example.
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:35 am

AUA = Austrian Airlines ( OS ) especially in german speaking countries  Smile
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:37 am

No one said BWIA yet?  Smile

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Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:39 am

LIAT - formerly known as Leeward Islands Air Transport
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:46 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 25):
Guys.... TAP, KLM etc are not acronyms they are merely abbreviations. An acronym is an abbreviation that forms a pronouncable word. QANTAS is a good example.

TAP is not a word?  Confused  Silly
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:53 am

Of the above mentioned acronyms, (and I looked up the definition for acronym -- a pronounceable word formed from the first letter(s) of a phrase or term) I like LACSA, TEAL, MALEV, TAROM, VIASA, CONVIASA, PLUNA, TACA, ALITALIA, VASP, and TRIP. TAM, ANA, SAS, LAN, JAL, and TAP are OK since they qualify, but aren't quite as dramatic. PLUNA, Alitalia, VIASA, Panagra, and TEAL are particularly pleasing to pronounce and evoke flight or travel somehow. Just my opinion.

Those of you still suggesting BOAC, LTU, BMI, TWA, PSA, NW, UA, or even IATA codes, return to "go", do not collect $200. Those are not acronyms, but merely abbreviations, and not nearly as fun.

Any more?

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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:07 am

MEA - MIDDLE EAST AIRLINES

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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:11 am

Quoting Shuggie (Reply 19):
British European Airways are now billing themselves as Flybe (pronounced Fly Bee) which is half acronym...

Not the case at all...

flyBE... once British European (they weren't allowed to be BEA - I think BA still own this trade name).

Of course in the past, flyBE used to be JEA - Jersey European Airways.


Another one... Dan Air, the British charter & scheduled carrier, taken over by BA in 1992.

Dan was nothing to do with Danish : Dan stood for Davies And Newman, the company founders.
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:16 am

Another Australian Carrier-

Regional Express- REX

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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:22 am

Quoting WestIndian425 (Reply 27):
COPA

Compañía Panameña de Aviación. At least I hope that's what COPA means, though now it's just Copa Airlines (with Copa being a name and no longer an acronym).
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:25 am

Quoting Rampart (Reply 30):
Those of you still suggesting BOAC, LTU, BMI, TWA, PSA, NW, UA, or even IATA codes, return to "go", do not collect $200. Those are not acronyms, but merely abbreviations, and not nearly as fun.

I was about to post a similar explanation, and point out that you should have started out by defining "anagram". However, who knew that there were so many A.netters who didn't know the meaning of the word  Smile
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:31 am

CSA: CeskoSlovenska Aerolinee

KLM : Koningrijk Luchtvaart Maatschapij (it means kingdom aviation company)

UTA used to stand for Union de Transports Aeriens (it means Union of Air Transport)

UPS: United Parcel Service

DAT: Delta Air Transport (it used to be Sabena's regional subsidiary)

SAA & SAL: South African Airways & Suid Afrikaans Lugdiens

VASP: Viacao Aeree Sao Paulo

VLM: Vlaams Luchtvaart Maatschapij

NLM: Nederland Lucthvaart Maatschapij (it used to be KLM's regional subsidiary, what KLM CityHopper is today)

AOM used to stand for Air Outre Mer (it means Air "other side of the sea")

THY: Turk Hava Yollari (it means Turkish Airlines)

TEA: Trans European Airlines (it used to be a Belgian charter airline)

EBA: Euro Belgian Airlines (this was a Brussels based airline before Virgin Express)

MEA: Middle East Airlines

NCA: Nippon Cargo Airlines

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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:44 am

and my beloved

MAS - Malaysia Airlines which people pronounce as "mas" not M-A-S
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:47 am

BWIA- British West Indian Airways

LIAT-Leewards Islands Air Transportation
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Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:50 am

COPA- Compañia Panameña de Aviacion
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:53 am

Quoting MH1402 (Reply 38):
MAS - Malaysia Airlines which people pronounce as "mas" not M-A-S

I thought MAS means Malaysia Airlines System.
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:00 am

Two that I haven't seen so far were now-defunct Honduran airlines:

SAHSA - Servicio Aéreo de Honduras SA (better known as "Stay At Home, Stay Alive")
TAN - Transportes Aéreos Nacionales

They merged at some point in the 80s or 90s and eventually (as SAHSA) went out of business in the mid-90s.

NICA - Nicaragüense de Aviacion was folded into TACA a few years back.

Avianca was originally short for Aerovías Nacionales de Colombia; but is now Aerovías del Continente Americano.
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:05 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 41):
I thought MAS means Malaysia Airlines System.

That name was used till they change their Corporate Identity in 1987. The transition from the Red "Wau"(MH logo on its tail) to the current Red and Blue "Wau". But the acronym stays.
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:07 am

Quoting Tgocean (Reply 1):
Even more fun were the substitution acronyms given by inventive passengers. BOAC, for example, morphed into "Better on a Camel." SABENA was a juicy one, but the sequence escapes me at the moment. Anyone remember more of these?

Well, for any English speaker who has ever travelled Central America, it is well-known that TACA really meant "Take a Casket Along" or "Take A Chicken Along"  Wink
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:09 am

Quoting Caribbean484 (Reply 39):
BWIA- British West Indian Airways

also know as
BWIA- But Will It Arrive
BWIA- Better Walk If Able  Wink

I love Bwee. I was so sad to see it go.

All part of BWIA history
BSAA- British South America Airways
BOAC- British Overseas Airways Corporation

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LIAT-Leewards Islands Air Transportation

also know as
LIAT-Leave Island Any Time
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting Caribbean484 (Reply 39):
BWIA- British West Indian Airways

LIAT-Leewards Islands Air Transportation



Quoting Caribbean484 (Reply 39):
COPA- Compañia Panameña de Aviacion

You're too late, Caribbean484. Another person and I beat you to it.  Smile
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:13 am

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to fly ships crews to their vessels in South America and the Far East. This, and not the airline's safety record, was the origin of the acrononym 'SAFE'.
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 25):
Guys.... TAP, KLM etc are not acronyms they are merely abbreviations. An acronym is an abbreviation that forms a pronouncable word. QANTAS is a good example.

Is it really? This seems to lead otherwise:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=acronym
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:32 am

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 32):
Not the case at all...

flyBE... once British European (they weren't allowed to be BEA - I think BA still own this trade name).

It's always been pronounced Fly Be when I've flown with them!
 
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RE: Acronyms As Airline Names

Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:34 am

I'm not sure what JMC stood for, but the F/A's used to call it Just Might Crash !