mptpa
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MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:48 am

As per [url=http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20070426:MTFH83942_2007-04-26_01-31-18_KLR87479&type=comktNews&rpc=44), ] Reuters, [/url] MAS issued RFP for 55 single aircraft to Airbus and Boeing, for June response.

Airbus is to propose A320 and A321 whilst Boeing is to propose B737-800 and B737-900. Let the guessing begin.

MP

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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:55 am

Quoting Mptpa (Thread starter):
Airbus is to propose A320 and A321 whilst Boeing is to propose B737-800 and B737-900. Let the guessing begin.

MP

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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:03 pm

Hi,

Since they have an all boeing fleet, I'd go with the 737s. Makes more sense.

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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:06 pm

MH has been discussing this order for years, let's see some action
 
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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:33 pm

Quoting AH332 (Reply 2):
Since they have an all boeing fleet

What about their A330's?


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LurveBus
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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:51 pm

This is an order that's Boeing's to lose. Huge 734 fleet aside, MAS also already has technical experience with leased 738s. If Airbus can get this order, good for them, but as the A320 family is selling like hotcakes, I don't think that Airbus would be willing to offer steep discounts to persuade MH to look their way.
 
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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:59 pm

The last time they issued an RFP for narrow-body replacement the A32X was said to be the forerunner.
 
MH1402
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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:38 am

MH Managing Director have said that MH will operate with only two fleet of aircraft.

Assuming it is one fleet for wide body and the other for narrow body.. Since currently MH operating with 772 and 744, and MH 777 having tight schedule. So I believe 777 life with MH going to be a long one...

Logically MH should favour 738 or 739 to fit their fleet. Plus MH might get some sort of discount from Boeing when they are going to add more 777 into their fleet..
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AH332
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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:10 am

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 4):
What about their A330's?

Wow, I completely forgot about those!  ashamed  Thanks for the correction.

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scouseflyer
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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:40 am

I guess that this will be minly due to when they want planes and what prices are quoted as they're replacing thier whole fleet of NBs so there will be retraining for pilots and mx either way.
 
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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:53 am

Quoting MH1402 (Reply 7):
MH Managing Director have said that MH will operate with only two fleet of aircraft.

I have seen this quoted in the local media. I guess then he has signaled indirectly, intentionally or not, that he does not see MH operating the A380.

I think the fleet rationalization (down to 2 aircraft families) is for the longer term, and effectively means that the current A330/B777/B747 fleets can be replaced with either the B787 or A350XWB family of aircraft. That would make sense, as the BTP did specify that the carrier should move towards smaller aircraft (with increased seating density).

Back to the topic... I question whether or not the airline needs to start the replacement of its narrowbody fleet at this point or even within the next 3-5 years. The current narrowbody fleet consists of a single type - the B737-400, most of them delivered in the 1990s IIRC; they seem to be operating fairly efficiently. Perhaps PMB has somehow projected a steeper fall-off in B737-400 residual values in the next few years, but committing to large numbers of B737NG or A32X this late in their product lives would be setting the stage for a similar situation 10-15 years down the road.

The need for range has been mentioned rather frequently. If there is an urgent need for longer range narrowbodies on a handful of routes, then a smaller number of airframes specifically to address that need could be considered. In that case, the B737NG would be the more logical choice.
 
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RE: MH Issues RFP For 55 Single Aisle Aircraft

Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:28 pm

MAS has had a horrid track record of ordering planes on whimsical factors - let's just hope that the current management team really put their thinking hats on this time.

I guess they are probably quaking in their boots about the imminent arrival of the A380 (ordered by the previous management) which will no doubt prove to be too large and costly for MAS' needs.