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CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:42 pm

Anybody have any insight on the possibility of new CO routes to the Caribbean from IAH in the future? Maybe when some more of the new 737's start arriving? Most of their current Carribean routes just don't work from here in AUS, as you have to fly to EWR the day before to catch the morning flight to the island. As it is, DL through ATL is a viable option as you can do it pretty easily in one day, but it would be MUCH nicer if CO opened up some more routes from IAH. I would think they could capture some traffic from this part of the world that currently uses AA from DFW via SJU or MIA as well.

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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:20 pm

I'm still holding out for a PVD-IAH run. With new aircraft arriving in 2008, maybe we'll see some new routes from CO...
 
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:53 pm

it certainly would be nice..........I was dissapointed when we dropped our PUJ route, although the LF on that was horrendous, so it was no surprise. At least we have SJU/GCM/MBJ/AUA/POS/BON
 
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:28 pm

We won't be seeing a whole lot of anything from Houston as long as people in the Western portion of the US prefer to take vacations to the likes of Hawaii and Mexican beach resorts. Some of the Caribbean routes (BON-for one) cater to small niches, such as diving and CO's schedule reflects that.

Something to SDQ and STT wouldn't be bad though  twocents 

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 1):
At least we have SJU/GCM/MBJ/AUA/POS/BON

You guys also have service to Nassau, Bahamas (NAS) (ERJ/735)
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:28 pm

I think it would serve CO well if they expanded their network in the Carribean. While they certainly do have a lot of routes, there are a number of underserved high $$$ destinations that would do great from all hubs. Well, at least once there is enough equipment available to do more than weekly flights.
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:43 pm

although BGI was a a failure from EWR....one would think that you could fill a 738 to IAH couple of times a week.
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:02 am

A few months back, I was going out with a local girl who is a travel agent and I brought up the subject of the lack of Caribbean destinations from IAH. Basically she echoed what MD80fan in reply #4 stated ,

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 3):
We won't be seeing a whole lot of anything from Houston as long as people in the Western portion of the US prefer to take vacations to the likes of Hawaii and Mexican beach resorts. Some of the Caribbean routes (BON-for one) cater to small niches, such as diving and CO's schedule reflects that.



There seems not too be enough local demand from Texas or connecting traffic from points further west from IAH to the Caribbean (in particular the Eastern Caribbean) to justify a build up from IAH. Many Texans seem to prefer Mexico, Belize and areas in the Western Caribbean , i.e. Cayman Islands, Jamaica, while West Coasters enjoy Mexico (Baja and other areas on Mexico's Pacific coast) and Hawaii, while the Eastern Caribbean seems to be the domain of those from the Northeast.

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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:59 am

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 6):
A few months back, I was going out with a local girl who is a travel agent and I brought up the subject of the lack of Caribbean destinations from IAH. Basically she echoed what MD80fan in reply #4 stated ,



Quoting MD90fan (Reply 3):
We won't be seeing a whole lot of anything from Houston as long as people in the Western portion of the US prefer to take vacations to the likes of Hawaii and Mexican beach resorts. Some of the Caribbean routes (BON-for one) cater to small niches, such as diving and CO's schedule reflects that.

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This is very very true. Being a travel agent in LA, I see this. We dont get a whole lot of people who want to go to the carribeian. IAH isnt located well for traffic from the east coast to the Carribiean, even though it is ideally located for traffic from the West Coast, Mountain West, and Texas to the Carribiean.

I dont know that IAH needs new destinations per se, but what I would like to see is an increase of frequencies to a couple of the Carribiean destinations they do have. AUA is the biggest. From what ive heard loads are pretty good. I also think they should increase frequencies to GCM and MBJ.

Do any of you guys know what CO's best preforming carribean routes from IAH are? I heard that POS is up there. Not surprising since it has daily service and the loads are good.
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:11 am

there are times where we run 2x IAH-GCM service
 
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:30 am

Who remembers the IAH-MSY-CCS service circa 1987? Flown twice or thrice weekly I believe with B727-200.
 
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:43 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 9):
Who remembers the IAH-MSY-CCS service circa 1987? Flown twice or thrice weekly I believe with B727-200.

This was before my move to the Houston area, however I did do VIASA from IAH-AUA-CCS in 91, the A/C A300, (if memory serves, an ex-Eastern Airbus). I took this prior to my departure.


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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:57 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 1):
I'm still holding out for a PVD-IAH run. With new aircraft arriving in 2008, maybe we'll see some new routes from CO...

I'm with you on that one.  Smile
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:36 am

I think I have an ANCIENT CO timetable where it shows they served Maracaibo Venezuela.
 
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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:06 am

Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 5):
although BGI was a a failure from EWR....one would think that you could fill a 738 to IAH couple of times a week.

I too think BGI could work, although the POS flight has only worked well given the business links. I would think BGI would be too focussed on leisure to being in the kind of yields needed to sustain a route like that.

EWR I suspect was a failure because more Caribbean ppl live nearer JFK than EWR and JFK service to the Caribbean islands is pretty good as it is!

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RE: CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?

Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:34 am

CO could do IAH-STT-STX-IAH and cover the cruise traffic out of STT and catch a little of the oil traffic on STX. CO would probably ressurect the old similar triangle EWR-STT-STX-EWR first. Of course, only in my dreams as we're stuck to AA mainline, once a day out of STX. I'd take direct service to IAH or EWR over MIA anyday. Both are much, much better airports. My OnePass miles would become useful again.

CO couples with Cape Air out of SJU to hit STT, STX, others in PR, and the BVIs. Cessna 402s only seat 7 though...

AUS would probably most benefit from an early bird special to MIA to make the mid-day Caribbean connections. I know that I would use it instead of spending the day doing the AUS-DFW-SJU-STX gambit. It takes a whole day to go the other way too, STX-SJU-DFW-AUS, as opposed to a half day/evening. The flight from MIA to AUS could then be an 8:45ish departure to capture all the Caribbean returns too. The market probably couldn't support a 738 such that they'd be thinking ERJs which may not have the legs to get there.

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