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Goodbye Braathens

Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:11 pm

Sadly another proud Airline-name is put to rest

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/business/article1760303.ece

BRAATHENS will always be a symbol of a great airline (at least for me)  weeping 

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:02 am

Finally, SAS should have done this when they bought Braathens. Now SAS is SAS in all the Scandinavian countries Big grin

Although Braathens was a great airline should they RIP!
 
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:10 am

What a shame.

Mange takk Braathens for flying me many times

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:41 am

What many feared would happen has now happened.
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:55 am

Hi!

Well just a few days ago I saw the new revamp SAS/Braathens at LIS, very SAS with very "foggy" Braathens titles. Indeed it's the final end of a great airline from Norways. In September 2005 I had the chance to fly from LIS to OSL with BU, I'm very glad I flew both planes with FULL BRAATHENS livery, LN-TUI LIS/OSL and LN-TUK OSL/LIS.
I found out in my addic an old JP Airline Fleets from 1980 and I noticed the following BU planes that passed via LIS during that year on the way to Madeira and Canarias Islands:

LN-SUA - Halvdan Svarte - 737-205C - Built in 1971
LN-SUB - Magnus den Gode - 737-205 Advanced - Built in 1979
LN-SUG - Harald Halfagre - 737-205 - Built in 1969
LN-SUI - Haakon den Gode - 737-205 Advanced - Built in 1975
LN-SUM - Magnus Lagaboter - 737-205 Advanced - Built in 1977

Maybe some of our norwegian enthusiasts know about these names, surely they were famous people, I guess "den Gode" means "the Great" right?
Great memories I have from those Braathens 737 Classics at LIS!
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:29 am

The Braathens name's are from old Norwegian Kings LN-B, 734 or 735. Or their daughters LN-T, 73G...

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting LNTUA (Reply 6):
The Braathens name's are from old Norwegian Kings LN-B, 734 or 735. Or their daughters LN-T, 73G...

Braathens S.A.F.E, I will never forget

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:30 am

Isn't Braathens the first European airline to fly the 767 ?
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:56 am

Quoting CV990 (Reply 5):
Maybe some of our norwegian enthusiasts know about these names, surely they were famous people, I guess "den Gode" means "the Great" right?

"Den Gode" actually means "the good".

BU, a proud airline, a shame to see the name go into history.

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:40 am

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 7):

Thanks  Smile  Smile  Smile
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:05 am

Hi!

I remember when I started has a "true enthusiast" that Braathens was known has "Braathens SAFE" and SAFE meant - "S(outh)A(merican)F(ar)E(ast)" - a norwegian airline that had in mind to fly in South America and Far East!!! SAS blocked it for sure!!!
Regarding the expression" den Goode" beeing a portuguese I think I was trying to use the root-language from latin...I'm sorry I was wrong...but beeing good makes me feel more peacefull..."good" is much more peacefull than "great" indeed!!!
Raggi, you picked up a great picture of that BU 737 LN-BRA in FAO...a usuall "client" to our most southern part of Portugal, Algarve, bright colours, shinny sun and of course very warm water at the beach!!!
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:43 am

Quoting LNTUA (Reply 6):
The Braathens name's are from old Norwegian Kings LN-B, 734 or 735. Or their daughters LN-T, 73G...

I think the Norwegian division of SAS should continue on with the same naming convention as that of Braathens for it's fleet. I recall that there were the most meticulous woodcarved pieces portraying each king hanging on the bulkhead in the cabin of each aircraft when these operated for Braathens. I do not think this would necessarily interfer with the imminent change of branding.

Other than that I think it makes sense to brand SAS in a uniform way. I'm just surprised that this action did not come earlier.
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:55 am

Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 12):
Other than that I think it makes sense to brand SAS in a uniform way. I'm just surprised that this action did not come earlier.

In addition to the name (those of a well known Norwegian shipowner family), the Norwegian public was very touchy about the removal of the Norwegian flag from the fin. Hence, the flag re-appeared on the aft fuselage and on the nose.
Due to historical events, the Norwegians do not look nicely at the Swedes. They had nicknamed SAS "Svensk Alle Sammen", all Swedish.
For these reasons, I assume that SAS Norge will kept its identity for a while.
 
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:39 am

Quoting CV990 (Reply 11):
I remember when I started has a "true enthusiast" that Braathens was known has "Braathens SAFE" and SAFE meant - "S(outh)A(merican)F(ar)E(ast)" - a norwegian airline that had in mind to fly in South America and Far East!!! SAS blocked it for sure!!!

I'm pretty sure they did fly to all of those places in the early days of aviation after (or perhaps before) WWII. I think it had something to do with the shipping company which owned Braathens and originally set it.


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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:50 am

Quoting Breiz (Reply 13):
For these reasons, I assume that SAS Norge will kept its identity for a while.

Well... I think we simply have to say goodbye to Braathens. It is highly unlikely that any airline in Norway will operate under this name ever again. Now we have Norwegian, and I honestly do think that this airline will carry on the national legacy of that of a flag carrier. It does not carry the the flag on any tail, but rather famous Norwegians. I think this airline is gaining momentum, and will be around to stay. We'll see how Norwegians will identify with it. The airline is expanding rapidly, and outside of the "comfort zone" too. But it has yet to be seen if Norwegians will embrace it.

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:38 pm

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 8):
Isn't Braathens the first European airline to fly the 767 ?

Braathens took delivery of a 767-200 on 23/03/1984, registration LN-SUV. LN-SUV is now flying for Maxjet as N260MY.

They were just pipped to the post as Britannia Airways took delivery of their first 767-200 on 27/02/1984 G-BKPW. G-BKPW was scrapped May 2006.
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:06 pm

Sad to see the Braathens name disappear. RIP
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:20 pm

Yes, sad to see them go - but just the name disappears at this stage... the special style, proud and way of service they had until SAS bought BRAATHENS S.A.F.E. have been removed since years already...
Good old times and style is really getting rare, at least in Western countries - sad to see!
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:24 pm

What does Braathens itself mean. Is that the founders name or what?
 
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:40 pm

Quoting CV990 (Reply 11):
I remember when I started has a "true enthusiast" that Braathens was known has "Braathens SAFE" and SAFE meant - "S(outh)A(merican)F(ar)E(ast)" - a norwegian airline that had in mind to fly in South America and Far East!!! SAS blocked it for sure!!!



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 14):
I'm pretty sure they did fly to all of those places in the early days of aviation after (or perhaps before) WWII. I think it had something to do with the shipping company which owned Braathens and originally set it.

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Founded in the immediate post-World War 2 period by the Norwegian ship owning family, Braathens, the airline initially used DC-4s and then DC-6s to fly replacement crews from Norway to ports in South America and the Far East. When I flew them a lot around the end of the 1980s and in the early 1990s they had become primarilly a domestic Norwegian carrier and later expanded to become a European dhort haul carrier.
 
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:53 pm

Quoting NA (Reply 19):
What does Braathens itself mean. Is that the founders name or what?

It's the family's last name. They now owns Malmö Aviation...
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:54 pm

What exactly is the position of SAS Braathens/SAS Norway within the SAS framework?
Are all SAS flights from Oslo/Norway SAS Braathens flights? Are all LN-registered short-haul aircraft SAS Braathens?

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:07 pm

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 22):
What exactly is the position of SAS Braathens/SAS Norway within the SAS framework?
Are all SAS flights from Oslo/Norway SAS Braathens flights? Are all LN-registered short-haul aircraft SAS Braathens?

SAS Braathens now SAS Norway fly all the domestic flight in Norway and all international routes out of Norway except: All the flights from Norway to Copenhagen which are operated by SAS DK, and 50% of the flights OSL-ARN and the TRD-ARN route, which are operated by SAS SE.

Where the aircraft is registered has noting to do which part of SAS the aircraft is operated by. However all SAS Norway's planes are LN-registered, but SAS DK, SE and IC have many planes that are LN-registered. This is due to tax reasons AFAIK.
 
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:45 pm

Sad to see Braathens has now gone. They were one of the airlines I wanted to fly on and last year I nearly did. A pity I didn't take that flight.
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:57 pm

SAS never blocked Braathens routes in the 40's.It was the Government.

A short historical background: When practical transoceanic flights appeared on the scene in the mid to late 30's,Petter Olsen of shipowner Fred. Olsen and Ludvig Braathen,chairman of the Braathens shipping company,travelled together around the world and got air traffic rights for ALL commercial,intercontinental flights to and from Scandinavia.Not just Norway.They then "divided the world" among themselves with Braathens getting South America and the Far East and Fred. Olsen's airline,DNL,getting the rights to North America,Africa and Oceania,including Australia and New Zealand.Braathen's airline became Braathens S.A.F.E. DNL just remained DNL.

After WW2,the Norwegian government nationalised DNL,confiscated Braathens scheduled air traffic traffic rights,and joined with Swedish ABA/SILA and Danish DDL to form OSAS,Overseas Scandinavian Airlines System in 1946.Together,they formed ESAS,European SAS,in 1949,finally joining both in 1952 to form the present day SAS.
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:06 am

Quoting FBU 4EVER! (Reply 25):
SAS never blocked Braathens routes in the 40's.It was the Government.

You are right of course, and your historical summary is good, but you must admit that from the 40's, SAS was the government. I do not recall to have read somewhere that any then managers of SAS argued with the government to keep Braathens flying.
 
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:33 am

What a sad day! I am happy to have been on the original Braathens!

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:12 am

I loved flying to the Canary islands with Braathens SAFE's B737-200 in the mid-to-late 1980's. I was always amazed that those small aircraft could fly so far (5hrs50min nonstop). The onboard service was so friendly, polite and prompt. SAS FAs are often stuck-up snobs and look at their paying pax with disdain...
I sure miss Braathens SAFE.

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:15 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 14):
I'm pretty sure they did fly to all of those places in the early days of aviation after (or perhaps before) WWII. I think it had something to do with the shipping company which owned Braathens and originally set it.

The story of Braathens SAFE's international services to South America and the Far East, proposed and actual, can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braathens
 
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:01 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 23):

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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:57 pm

I remember as a young lad, I used to write to various airlines requesting post cards, brochures, literature, etc about their airline. I know ... what a geek, as all of my mates were into hockey!

Braathens sent a HUGE parcel of brochures, pictures, timetables, even safety cards ... WOW, what a haul. Especially from an airline I didn't even know existed until I found their address. I have never forgotten that, and sadly never had the pleasure of flying with them.

But, the kindness of sending all of that information to some young kid, gave me the favourable impression of a family owned/run airline.
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RE: Goodbye Braathens

Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:27 am

Anybody knows the actual routings of BU into Panama and Caracas? type of aircraft?

I would like to hear all the flight logs of A.netters on BU-----route, type of aircraft and year flown.

Thanks for all the data.