PiedmontINT
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What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:03 am

I just got a job with Mesa / US Express at MHK as a CSA / Ramper and all we get are Beechcraft 1900's to and from MCI and SLN. Since these birds are showing their age physically and mechanically (we are constantly delayed due to one of them going tech. on us) it got me thinking, what will replace the 1900 on these EAS routes? As far as I know the 1900 has ceased production as I dont hear of any new frames being built, but I could be wrong..

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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:07 am

Indeed, Raytheon dropped the line in 2002, and Onex/Hawker Beechcraft have not announced any plans to restart it.

By the way, any Hawker Beechcraft or Spirit employees here? Onex sure does seem to have a hold on the Wichita aerospace industry.
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:10 am

the beech 1900/ j-32 were both good planes for EAS cities.
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:35 am

I wonder if Embraer might jump in and start a modernized version of the EMB-120 or something... Or Saab?
 
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:39 am

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 3):
I wonder if Embraer might jump in and start a modernized version of the EMB-120 or something... Or Saab?

I think the EMB120 was designed after the Bandierante, which was a 19 passenger unpressurized craft that served many commuter airlines well in the 80's and 90's
 
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:39 am

AFAIK, no one makes a 19-seater any more? Unless these airlines go for the restart of the Twin Otter, I'm guessing those BE1's will be around for a good long while. Not sure if EAS economics make anything larger worthwhile.
 
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:50 am


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Embraer did build a prototype in the 20 seater range, but the complexity of the aircraft kept the price too high for the market they were targeting.



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The company that holds the type certificate for the Twin Otter (Viking aircraft from Victoria, B.C., Canada) has now reintroduced the type as a DHC-6-400 series aircraft. Viking already builds all the parts needed to build a Twin Otter. Subsequently, these will be new-build rather than modified existing aircraft. I do believe that there is an order book of around 40 aircraft, and possibly more! The aircraft will have many updates including new engines and instrument panel.
This aircraft, although an inexpensive alternative in the 19 seat range, does not have pressurization. Also, the fuselage is too small to stand in.
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 10:58 am

Quoting PiedmontINT (Thread starter):
I just got a job with Mesa / US Express at MHK as a CSA / Ramper

Wow, interesting that there is someone from there on here. I'm planning on flying in to MHK on July 3rd, visiting the area and such. It's just such a pain drving from MCI....

It's interesting how the 19 seat market has primarily been dominated by this a/c...I wonder if Raytheon will come out with some sort of new aircraft in the future.
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 11:04 am

Quoting PiedmontINT (Thread starter):
I just got a job with Mesa / US Express at MHK as a CSA / Ramper and all we get are Beechcraft 1900's to and from MCI and SLN. Since these birds are showing their age physically and mechanically (we are constantly delayed due to one of them going tech. on us) it got me thinking, what will replace the 1900 on these EAS routes? As far as I know the 1900 has ceased production as I dont hear of any new frames being built, but I could be wrong..

I am pulling for the Metro 24 with full EFIS.
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 6:40 pm

Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 7):
Wow, interesting that there is someone from there on here.

You would be surprised! I know for a fact one of my buddies is on here all the time checking out the pics and reading the forums, but I dont think he posts very much.

If you go a few miles west out to SLN there's a ton of aviation geeks out there between K-State Salina and Hesston's aviation programs
 
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 7:34 pm

Rumors around here have it that the Do228 (19 pax, range of about 1000 km (full pax load)) is about to be restarted, maybe that's any good.


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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 9:36 pm

Quoting SailorOrion (Reply 10):
Rumors around here have it that the Do228 (19 pax, range of about 1000 km (full pax load)) is about to be restarted, maybe that's any good.

That would be interesting to see. Do you have any sources or links other than a rumor on that? Who is the supposed company that is going to restart that line, since DO went belly up a while back????
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RE: What Will Replace The B1900?

Wed May 02, 2007 9:54 pm

Basically only the 728 section of FD went belly up, the 328 department ended in AvCraft while all the Rest (like the 228 blueprints?) ended in the RUAG. I know a few people in RUAG, as I live less then a stone's throw away from the plant, and currently the company (from their information) is "strongly considering" that move, the decision is (apparently) to be made within a few weeks. However I'm not sure whether the 228 would really be a competitive aircraft, though I must admit that my knowledge of the sub-50-seat market is around zero. I've flown the 228 back when I worked for FD, and it's a pretty nice aircraft  Smile

Good enough a source?  Smile

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