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Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 06, 2007 5:24 am

There has been many rumours, many announcements, many threads here, and many withdrawals.

But now, its official, Oman officially exists Gulf Air after it became 20% owner recently, effective today.

Bahrain is now the sole-owner of Gulf Air.

Quote:

MANAMA, MAY 5 (BNA) -- OMAN HAS COMPLETELY WITHDRAWN FROM GULF AIR EFFECTIVE TODAY.

THE WITHDRAWAL PROCEDURE WILL BE SET IN MOTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE 22 OF THE COMPANYS RULES.

THE COMMITTEE WILL ALSO OVERSEE THE TRANSFER OF THE AIRLINES OWNERSHIP TO BAHRAIN.

THE MEETING ALSO DECIDED THAT THE COMPANY WILL BE COMPLETELY MANAGED BY BAHRAIN.

SHAIKH AHMED PRAISED THE ROLE PLAYED BY OMAN IN SUPPORTING THE AIRLINE SINCE ITS INCEPTION MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO WHICH, HE SAID, REFLECTED THE DEPTH OF RELATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES.

http://english.bna.bh/?ID=58098

Exciting next few months for GF, Ihope they get their acts together now that OMAN is off the table and the burden!!

[Edited 2007-05-05 22:25:21]

[Edited 2007-05-05 22:44:12]
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 06, 2007 5:42 am

Wow... That is sad news for the struggling airline having lost support from Qatar, UAE and now Oman. Was this news expected?

On the positive side this allows the airline to focus on one hub and not have the red tape of having to deal with several different countries governments to obtain funding.

I have flown GF several times and always found them a pleasant airline to fly, but nothing fantanstic.

They tried rebranding themselves a few years ago and really tried to make a big turnaround with the emphasis on the golden falcon and introduced new liveries and executive lounges, also some quite innovative touches like inflight chefs and nannies. But the seem to have come off the boil recently and while other Gulf airlines are leagues ahead.

I am wondering if they can turn the airline around and turn it into an airline like Emirates, Qatar and Etihad. But this would take huge amounts of investment and wondering if the Bahraini government has or is willing to invest these huge sums required.
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 06, 2007 6:09 am

I don't think that it is sad news that Oman has pulled out of GF, in fact it's good news for GF as they can now concentrate on the restructuring plan with a single HUB operation with the promised investment from the Bahrain government.
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 06, 2007 7:00 am

Would this mean that the GF's new Summer Timetable is changed, so Muscat will not be serving cities except Bahrain by GF?
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 06, 2007 7:31 am

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 3):
Would this mean that the GF's new Summer Timetable is changed, so Muscat will not be serving cities except Bahrain by GF?

I'll find it out 2moro at the "pink palace!"
Well this was about to happen, sooner then expected though.
last week we heard the news that Bahrain is interested in a 100% stake of GF, so off course it's a logic move by Oman eventually.

I am interested to see as well what they will do with the regulations of liscences and registrations of the aircraft,
all of this is in Oman with DGCAM(A40), and what this means for the routes.
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 06, 2007 7:44 am

Oman Air may take up the MCT/LHR routes although they don't have any long range aircraft as yet and I would think GF will continue operating them via BAH.

What will happen about the new maintenance facility planned by SR Technics in MCT, will that be moved to BAH ?
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 06, 2007 8:07 am

i dont think the summer timetable will be effected...this change and one hub focus by GF on BAH will fully be implemented from the onset of the winter 07-08 timetable.

it'll be interesting to see if Oman Air takes up GFs profitable MCT-ISB/PEW/LHE routes which they dont fly on currently.

also remember its not a total win-win situation for GF as now with MCT gone, GF loses its O&D labor market on MCT-India/DAC/PAK/BKK/KUL routes as BAH doesnt have as much labor traffic as MCT does. Thus GF will now become totally a "transit airline" for pax as 95% of its pax on board will be 6th freedom ones.
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 06, 2007 4:03 pm

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 6):
GF loses its O&D labor market on MCT-India/DAC/PAK/BKK/KUL routes as BAH doesnt have as much labor traffic as MCT does

You're right as far as India/Pak/Bangladesh and Sri Lanka goes, I wouldn't count Thailand as much of a labour destination and definitely not Malaysia.

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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Mon May 07, 2007 2:07 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 4):
and registrations of the aircraft,
all of this is in Oman with DGCAM(A40), and what this means for the routes.

If all GF aircraft are registered in MCT are the bilateral route licences held by Oman or Bahrain ???

Does Bahrain hold similar route agreements ???

Will GF lose other routes due to Oman puling out ???
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Mon May 07, 2007 6:42 am

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 8):
Will GF lose other routes due to Oman puling out ???

GF has already lost the right to fly to DAC from MCT but it didnt hamper their BAH-DAC flights which were increased from 4 per week to daily eff July 2nd.

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 8):
If all GF aircraft are registered in MCT

yes the whole fleet is registered in MCT, but will be re-registered in BAH...no big problem here.

Quoting BigTom (Reply 7):
I wouldn't count Thailand as much of a labour destination and definitely not Malaysia.

you should as there is a sizeable number of Thais and Malaysians working in service jobs in MCT & BAH and many more in UAE, DOH, KWI and Saudi Arabia. Plus both destinations are tourist hot spots for the local Arabs in BAH & MCT.
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Mon May 07, 2007 7:29 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 9):
you should as there is a sizeable number of Thais and Malaysians working in service jobs in MCT & BAH and many more in UAE, DOH, KWI and Saudi Arabia.

I'm not so sure about other areas but in Qatar there are restrictions on the number of Indian, Pakistani and Bangladesh work visas being issued so many Thai workers are being recruited.
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Mon May 07, 2007 1:16 pm

An editorial in today's Gulf News sheds light on GF's receding status ...

Icon of collective ambition and glory

Quote:
Few airlines in the history of the region have elicited as much heated debate as Gulf Air.

Nevertheless, the company will always remain an icon that people can look to with pride and recall with enthusiastic affection. For years, Gulf Air embodied the magnificent symbol of unity between Gulf countries and was a visible part of their closeness.

The withdrawal on Friday of Oman, the last of Bahrain's partners in the airline, may have been greeted with happiness by some Bahrainis keen on their country having its own airline, like other GCC countries.

But for most Gulf nationals, there were no such cheers and celebrations. Instead, there were tears and sadness as they witnessed the end of a company that was part of their lives, a vigorous symbol of their common achievements and a lively indication of their aspirations.

http://gulfnews.com/opinion/editorial_opinion/region/10123410.html
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Mon May 07, 2007 3:18 pm

Malaysian workforce in the Gulf is negligible compared to those from the Subcontinent. Sure you'd find people of every nationalities everywhere, and the Gulf is no exception.

Recently, Malaysian tourism minister was in AUH to receive a tourism award from UAE authorities for being #1 most popular destination among the Emiratis. I wouldn't be surprised if Malaysia is also on the top of the list in most other GCC states looking at the number of Arab tourists (and students) that we get here. Oman Air would be mad not to cash in on this once they have the appropriate equipment.
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Mon May 07, 2007 3:54 pm

As sad as this event might be for some, lets view this positively because GF, in my opinion, was a negelected child with their respective owners all busy starting their own airlines. GF has had a glorious past and have been very much over shadowed by much younger airlines like Emirates and Qatar. Now that Bahrain has 100% control, it is time for them to concentrate on bringing back the GF we all once knew.
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Mon May 07, 2007 4:44 pm

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 13):

You're right, let's hope that Bahrain manages to put GF back on track.

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 9):
you should as there is a sizeable number of Thais and Malaysians working in service jobs in MCT & BAH and many more in UAE, DOH, KWI and Saudi Arabia. Plus both destinations are tourist hot spots for the local Arabs in BAH & MCT.

The labour contingent from the subcontinent far outstrips that from any other region. Sure there are Malaysians, Singaporeans, people from the UK, Europe, Japan and a whole lot of other nationalities working in the GCC but these are mostly in professional and technically qualified jobs and cannot be counted as labour. Apart from the subcontinent the Philippines provides a considerable number of workers too, mostly in the service and hospitality sector. That said BKK. KUL and SIN are huge leisure destinations for locals and expats from the GCC and no airline can ignore these sectors.

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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Mon May 07, 2007 9:14 pm

Looks like MCT will still be a base until at least the Winter Schedule as they are still operating flights to/from MCT other than BAH.

For example:

Scheduled Time Flight Number Coming From Status Terminal
Mon 7 May 2007
15:20 GF003 BAHRAIN EXPECTED 1508 Terminal Three
19:10 GF005 MUSCAT EXPECTED 1850 Terminal Three

Scheduled Time Flight Number Departing To Status Terminal
Mon 7 May 2007
20:30 GF006 MUSCAT SCHEDULED Terminal Three
22:00 GF008 BAHRAIN SCHEDULED Terminal Three

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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Tue May 08, 2007 1:27 am

I guess Oman Air will try to get LHR slots ASAP (easier said than done)
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Tue May 08, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting BigTom (Reply 11):
Nevertheless, the company will always remain an icon that people can look to with pride and recall with enthusiastic affection. For years, Gulf Air embodied the magnificent symbol of unity between Gulf countries and was a visible part of their closeness.

I believe Emirates had asked Bahrain and all other GF memeber countries to allow the airline to be based in Dubai but they refused, thats why EK was set up.
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Tue May 08, 2007 3:48 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 17):
I believe Emirates had asked Bahrain and all other GF memeber countries to allow the airline to be based in Dubai

Now that would have built a truely great pan-Gulf carrier with no EY or QR, the A380 would look great in GF's livery too  Smile
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Tue May 08, 2007 4:06 am

Has Gulf Air dropped JNB with immediate effect ? I was due to fly to London on Saturday via BAH and on arrival at JNB i was told i was being reaccomodated on EY via AUH and BAH. In the end I opted for the SAA direct flight on Saturday night.
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Tue May 08, 2007 4:33 am

The JNB flight got canx every now and then due to aircraft shortages due to the recent grounding of the B767 fleet but I don't think it has been totally dropped yet.
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Tue May 08, 2007 5:37 am

As per the Gulf Air website, the BAH-JNB-BAH service is terminated with immediate effect.
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Tue May 08, 2007 3:50 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 17):
I believe Emirates had asked Bahrain and all other GF memeber countries to allow the airline to be based in Dubai but they refused, thats why EK was set up.

The problem was that back in the late 70s GF was a four nation airline. Owned equally by Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, and the UAE. The ruler of the UAE was the Sheik of Abu Dhabi, so the UAE's quarter of the operation was based in AUH. The Sheik of DXB wanted to move this piece to DXB, but it never happened. In those days GF had a large operation out of DXB, probably more flights than AUH, but DXB had no role in the set up. So the ruler of DXB bought an A300 and a B727 and DNATA formed an airline subsidiary which became Emirates.
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Tue May 08, 2007 8:44 pm

I'd expect in the long run this would be the best if not only outcome for GF. It's no longer a major carrier compared with its local rivals, Emirates, Qatar and now Etihad (witness for example its imminent downsizing and also the fact that it only serves one corner of the UK compared with the other three). It seems to be focused on O&D traffic while the others are built on transfer traffic (not that this is necessarily a bad thing). Might this be the springboard GF needs to grow in the longer term just like its rivals?
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Wed May 09, 2007 1:29 am

EK's A300 and 737-300 were leased from PIA, later a 727 belonging to the Royal family was donated to the airline.
 
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 13, 2007 9:53 am

We recieved the deputy king HH Sheikh Salman Al Khalifa yesterday at the GF HDQ, and he basically told us that the airline will act to one that serves the economical interest for BAH and we have a tough way ahead of us in achieving our goals in 2 years time, but he is confident it can be done.

So basically the new management is doing logical moves and the highest members of the Bahrain political party are backing up the plans and the airline, it will be very interesting the next months to see if it is possible Inshala!

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 22):
The Sheik of DXB wanted to move this piece to DXB, but it never happened. In those days GF had a large operation out of DXB, probably more flights than AUH, but DXB had no role in the set up. So the ruler of DXB bought an A300 and a B727 and DNATA formed an airline subsidiary which became Emirates.

Ironic that ex GF staff started EK!I wish EK even more succes, they are good for Dubai and in general gives the entire GCC a better spot on the charts as a destination for business and leisure!

Quoting AJO (Reply 21):
As per the Gulf Air website, the BAH-JNB-BAH service is terminated with immediate effect.

Same as DUB btw...
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 13, 2007 6:52 pm

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 25):
Same as DUB btw...

the website claims DUB service will be ended on the 29th of June 2007. I flew GF23 BAH-DUB just last Sunday (May 6, 2007), after the message on the website was posted.
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RE: Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th

Sun May 13, 2007 8:40 pm

Bahrain now has what it always wanted - their own national carrier and with the Crown Prince backing the restructuring plan I believe you will soon see some major changes being made within GF.

The multi HUB concept never worked with each State trying to squeeze more and more out of GF and I hope now that they with quickly reconfigure their aircraft and improve their inflight service.

GF held 80% of the gulf traffic many moons ago and now need to step up a gear or too to bring it back.
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