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787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Wed May 09, 2007 12:13 pm

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Vought Completes, Delivers First Boeing 787 Aft Fuselage

CHARLESTON, S.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Vought Aircraft Industries, Inc. today delivered its first composite sections for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, representing 23 percent of the airplane’s entire fuselage structure.

A custom-made transporter will carry the sections about 200 yards across the parking lot from Vought’s facility to Global Aeronautica, Vought’s joint venture with Alenia North America. There, the completed section will be wrapped and prepared for shipping before being loaded onto the Boeing Dreamlifter and flown to Everett, Wash.

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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Wed May 09, 2007 12:49 pm

Thanks for the updates IAD787. I appreciate your work. I have added your site to my bookmarks. It's really an awesome opportunity to see the 787 come together piece by piece. Before we realize it, there will be hundreds of these birds in the sky and the 787 will become common place, but for now.....It's EXCITING
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Wed May 09, 2007 1:16 pm

Here's a pic:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/formattc/vought-GroupShot1RGB.jpg

You can clearly see the oval shape and larger size of the windows in this photo.  Smile
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Wed May 09, 2007 2:02 pm

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 2):
Here's a pic:

 bigthumbsup 

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 2):
You can clearly see the oval shape and larger size of the windows in this photo.

Random window size factoids:

787 windows are 10.5" x 18" spaced 24" apart
777 windows are 10.5" x 15.3" spaced 21" apart

So, compared to the 777, each window is ~20% larger, but there are 13% fewer of them for a given length of the cabin.
 
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Wed May 09, 2007 4:07 pm

Um, I am having a hard time convincing myself that those windows look any larger than usual.
 
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Wed May 09, 2007 10:51 pm

Anyone notice the random guy in the back starring up into the fuselage section  Wink
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Wed May 09, 2007 10:53 pm

Quoting Grantcv (Reply 4):
Um, I am having a hard time convincing myself that those windows look any larger than usual.

It's a good thing we have facts and not subjective reasoning:

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 3):
787 windows are 10.5" x 18" spaced 24" apart
777 windows are 10.5" x 15.3" spaced 21" apart
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 12:14 am

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 3):
So, compared to the 777, each window is ~20% larger, but there are 13% fewer of them for a given length of the cabin.

Have you ever noticed that the windows and rows dont align well on some planes, some rows have two windows and others have one centered to the seat?

I wonder if this was considered when they reduced the total number? Maybe they took into consideration how many rows the average customer would want and set the windows based on that?
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 1:08 am

Quoting Grantcv (Reply 4):
Um, I am having a hard time convincing myself that those windows look any larger than usual.

If you compare them relative to the people looking up into the fuselage, it's pretty apparent that the windows are tall enough that you would see their head and most of their shoulder through them.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 6):
It's a good thing we have facts and not subjective reasoning:

Agreed. And as noted, the windows are no wider than before, but rather taller and less "circular".
 
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 2:49 am

There have been many threads and posts about the window size of the 787. Can someone explain why all the hype? I just don't consider window size a topic for such debate and wonder. It's just a window.

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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 3:23 am

Okay, so we got a front, back, now we just got to fill in the middle Big grin
 
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 3:35 am

Quoting AirTran717 (Reply 9):
Can someone explain why all the hype? I just don't consider window size a topic for such debate and wonder. It's just a window.

Because of their size, the pax experience will be quite different. Wait until you see it, I am sure you will be impressed.
 
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 3:41 am

"Can someone explain why all the hype?"

Well, in my opinion, and my experience flying, I have always enjoyed looking out the window. I think that more visibility through the window for the passenger is always a good thing. I also think Boeing is trying to emphasis the overall 'spaciousness' of the 787 cabin, and with more light coming in via the larger windows, maybe that translates into a more comfortable flying experience. Is it worth debating about,...who's to say. But are larger windows (the largest in commercial aviation) worth noting..,sure. (in my opinion)
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 3:47 am

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 12):
Well, in my opinion, and my experience flying, I have always enjoyed looking out the window. I think that more visibility through the window for the passenger is always a good thing. I also think Boeing is trying to emphasis the overall 'spaciousness' of the 787 cabin, and with more light coming in via the larger windows, maybe that translates into a more comfortable flying experience. Is it worth debating about,...who's to say. But are larger windows (the largest in commercial aviation) worth noting..,sure. (in my opinion)

Agreed, who needs IFE when you have a perfectly good window?  Silly
That's my problem with some Airbus products, the windows tend to be small. I don't think I'd like flying on the upper deck of an A380 or a 747 because of the angle of the windows. They look to me like you can't see directly under the plane but only outward a few miles. The 787 windows will make me look for 787 when selecting flights.  Wink
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 4:13 am

Windows for window lovers make such a difference in the flight experience....

Who didn't love the windows on the 727...more squared off, large and placed at just the right level to look both out and down comfortably....compare them to the window locations in the Canadair RJ's-especially the 200's. They seem to be located at elbow level and impossible to get a comfortable view out of. I for one, am looking forward to the 787 design!!
 
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 4:24 am

Quoting Zoom530 (Reply 14):
Who didn't love the windows on the 727...more squared off, large and placed at just the right level to look both out and down comfortably

... if you are of median height, I suppose. But not if you are tall. That's why I am looking forward to the 787's taller windows.
 
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RE: 787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina

Thu May 10, 2007 4:26 am

The only thing good about the RJ windows was when you bank and you feel like you're looking straight down. Granted, straight and level flight was a good recipe for a crick in the neck.
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