I understand that equipment size is a part of what determines salary. That is not the problem I have.
BTW, I am not bitter anymore about this. Just having an honest, open discussion.
My problem is the career path. SWISS is hiring, or will hire soon, brand new pilots to fly on the Airbus fleet while pilots from the Avro have not got the same opportunity.
In the US, where I am currently working, things are also not perfect. But there is no such thing or idea here as a 'regional pilot'. The difference is that pilots start their career for a so-called 'regional' airline and after a few years upgrade to captain and then will apply to a bunch of major airlines. My short list in my own career would include United. Anyway, I have my ATPL and over 4000 hours flying airline equipment. Nobody calls me a 'regional pilot' anywhere. I fly to JFK, ATL, ORD, BOS, PHL, PIT, LGA, IAD, and other mega-airports all the time. Nothing 'regional' at all about those places!!
What I am getting at is that airlines here in the US do not ever hire new pilots without going first to more experienced pilots from the 'regional' airlines. I am just saying it is odd that SWISS would hire those new guys when there are lots of pilots on the Avro with lots of experience who might like the opportunity to join the Airbus fleet.
Also, it is possible for them to be in the same Gewerkschaft/Union. I am an ALPA member. So are the pilots at United Airlines.
I understand that things are going much better now for everyone at SWISS. They will soon have a new GAV for the Avro pilots and this makes me happy. Also, I understand it is a good contract. My main concern is not pay for the Avro pilots. It is the Career Path, or Karriere Laufbahn, of the Avro/regional pilots vis a vis the pilots on the Airbus fleet.
When I talked with them there was no mention of the possibility to switch from one fleet to the other.
Like I said, I am not angry anymore or bitter. For me the war is over. I liked what I saw when I was there a month ago or so. I just hope that all the pilots in Switzerland get to have the same opportunities. After all, SWISS was started from Crossair and it might be fair for them to have similar opportunities. That is why I asked about the GAV. I don't get much info here, even though I am a Passiv Mitglied of the SWISS Pilots. All I get are the negative propaganda e-mails and some occasional infos from some friends I have who still work there.
It is not about money (though the concept of equal pay for equal work should mean something...), rather it is about career chances for all SWISS employees. Not just the ex-Swissair employees.
Thankfully, things are starting to go well for SWISS. That is good news for sure.
And please, don't anyone get upset about my thoughts. I am not bitter or angry. (Not anymore!!!
)The past is in the past. The future is here and anger will not move anything forward. So let's use common sense and discuss this with a spirit of openness and honesty and with a good beer in hand, like I have right now!!
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