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WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 12:08 am

http://southwest.com/ding/what_is_ding.html


http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/feeds...p?partner=BING&view=email&pos=HEAD


Looks pretty similar if you ask me. Look at the FAQ sections for each airline. FR copied WN **word for word** all they did was replace "Ding" with "Bing". I like #5 for FR's FAQ.

"Will the Bing! application include ATA airports and offers for flights to/from those airports?"
 
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 12:11 am

Haha that is pretty damn funny!
 
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 12:22 am

Has anyone who has "Ding!" downloaded "Bing!" to see if its a carbon copy of it tuned to FR's needs as well?
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 12:34 am

I don't think it's down to Ryanair "Copying" Southwest. I think it's more of a Template of the Software company that created 'Ding' or 'Bing', given the Screenshot similarities with FR and WN modifying the template to suit it's needs. I wouldn't be surprised if other Airlines start to take on this idea.

Still Funny though.  Wink
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 12:39 am

Wouldn't be surprised if FR did this with WN's permission anyway - there is a pretty good relationship between these two airlines, and it's not like they overlap with each other from a competitive perspective (well, not yet!)  Smile
 
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 12:42 am

Quoting ZBA320 (Reply 3):
I think it's more of a Template of the Software company that created 'Ding' or 'Bing',

So, you're saying the template includes the FAQ about ATA airports? That wouldn't even apply in any other situation than with WN or ATA. So, my point is, the questions and the verbiage are not part of the template. There is most likely a template for the application, but not the FAQs. Bottom line...Ryanair copied WN's section word for word. See the link below.

http://www.southwest.com/ding/ding_faq.html

I wonder if there are copyright laws prohibiting anyone from using WN's verbiage...What pisses me off so much, is that it's so blatant.
 
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 1:07 am

Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 5):
I wonder if there are copyright laws prohibiting anyone from using WN's verbiage...What pisses me off so much, is that it's so blatant.

A standard copywrite law would cover it, using someone elses work and passing it off as your own.

However as southwest and ryanair are both airlines (and low cost ones at that), I very much doubt they have an in house software team working on applications like this. It will be made by a 3rd party software company, which has then sold the application on to WN/FR. Expect to see other airlines adopt the program shortly.

The website layout is probably a standard design made by the software company, which ryanair / southwest have adopted and customised slightly for their needs.

The real kicker is I had an idea for such a product 5 years ago, although not to be sold to airlines. If only I had done something with the idea...... story of my life  Sad
 
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 3:01 am

Too funny.....my prediction: Skybus will come out with "RING!" and not even bother find-and-replacing Southwest's name from the FAQ.

And Nighthawk....I don't know about Ryanair, but DING! was indeed developed entirely in-house at Southwest.

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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 3:25 am

Quoting Dadoftyler (Reply 7):
I don't know about Ryanair, but DING! was indeed developed entirely in-house at Southwest.

Well, then maybe Ryanair just payed Southwest to use the program, and that copy & paste of the FAQ is included in the deal?
 
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 3:54 am

Well, then maybe Ryanair just payed Southwest to use the program, and that copy & paste of the FAQ is included in the deal?

Maybe, and maybe Ryanair were so happy with the deal they got on said template from Southwest they thought they would just leave the reference to ATA in the copy.
 
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 5:06 am

Quoting ZBA320 (Reply 3):
I don't think it's down to Ryanair "Copying" Southwest.

Ryanair does admit that when O'Leary visited Southwest back in the 90's that what he saw was what he used to turn around the then failing Ryanair and to completely model it after Southwest Airlines so does this seem that far off.
 
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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 6:22 am

Quoting Dadoftyler (Reply 7):
my prediction: Skybus will come out with "RING!" and not even bother find-and-replacing Southwest's name from the FAQ.

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But I'm flying the airline with BLING!  silvermedal   twocents 

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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 9:03 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 8):
Well, then maybe Ryanair just payed Southwest to use the program, and that copy & paste of the FAQ is included in the deal?

Joost...nope--it was a complete surprise. But for the time being, everyone I've talked to is looking at it as "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." I mean, you can say what you want about Ryanair's airport choice, onboard experience, or employee quality of work life--but with those financials, I think almost any other airline would have "margin envy."

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RE: WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'

Thu May 10, 2007 9:03 am

Now we need a Bada to precede the bing. That would no doubt be for Alitalia.

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