sea2pdx
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QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Thu May 10, 2007 9:20 am

On May 8, Horizon submitted an application to serve Loreto, Mexico from Los Angeles. If approved, service would begin on October 28. The new service would compliment Alaska's current 4 weekly flights, resulting in daily service to Loreto. This would be Horizon's first ever service south of the border. Best of luck!
 
N1120A
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Thu May 10, 2007 9:26 am

They planning on using a CR7 or a Q400 on the flight?
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as739x
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Thu May 10, 2007 11:02 am

Original plan was for CR7 and I have heard no change on this. This could be just the beginning of Horizon in Mexico. With AS arriving international fligthts into the domestic terminal now, it has opened the door for more QX intl flights. Doesn't look like DL/CO will be alone in the transborder regional jumps from LAX anymore (By US carriers).

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juventus
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Thu May 10, 2007 10:02 pm

The Baja peninsula is stealing Cancun's thunder. Resorts and Spas going up everywhere.
 
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Thu May 10, 2007 10:09 pm

Quoting Juventus (Reply 3):

Which can be a good thing and a bad thing. I personally have no desire to go to SJD anymore. Its been Americanized with American prices. Loreto and La Paz haven't been effected to much yet, but time will tell.

Personally I will take PVR or ZIH over the Baja penn anyday!

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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Thu May 10, 2007 10:17 pm

Quoting AS739X (Reply 4):
Which can be a good thing and a bad thing. I personally have no desire to go to SJD anymore. Its been Americanized with American prices. Loreto and La Paz haven't been effected to much yet, but time will tell.

Yes it has. I wanted to use my Hilton points for a few nights in Cabo. They want more points than many Hiltons in Europe and Canada. Cabo is getting very expensive. Flew in there a few days ago, ramp completely full of pirvate jets. We couldn't even park.

Loreto is more peacefull and calmer, and a lot cheaper.
 
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Fri May 11, 2007 11:57 am

It will be very interesting to see how and where QX expands to as the new aircraft come online. I could see some more Mexico flying, as well as filling a few gaps in California...MRY is one destination that strikes me as having good QX potential. I could also see some additional B.C./Alberta flights to places like Comox or Prince George.
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Fri May 11, 2007 1:20 pm

Quoting Chugach (Reply 6):

Agreed on MRY. I'd like to ask someone in QX planning/marketing why they have not tapped into MRY, yet started STS. Though STS paying a pretty penny does help. MRY could happen with the Q400's being added,

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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Sat May 12, 2007 2:07 am

After MRY, the next step would be to add SBP.. then more multi-stop intra-California flying up and down the coast with Q400 to smaller cities that won't require a connection at LAX or SFO.

IPL, SAN, CRQ, SNA (slots allowing), LGB, ONT, PSP, OXR, SBA, SMX, SBP, BFL, FAT, MCE, MMH, MRY, SJC, MOD, OAK, STS, SMF, TVL, CIC, RDD, and ACV could all see intra-state traffic stimulated simply by offering low enough fares (why an efficient aircraft like the Q400 is essential) and by avoiding the relative hassles of a connection through LAX and SFO.

A typical line of flying could look something like.. SAN-SBA-SMF-SBP-LGB-MRY-SMF-SBA-SAN or OXR-OAK-FAT-SAN-SBA-MRY-LGB-FAT-OAK-OXR

Of course, if QX did this, they could incorporate the intra-CA flying they already do as well. This whole thing would just diversify their business and build loyalty.
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Sat May 12, 2007 2:36 am

Quoting AS739X (Reply 4):

Personally I will take PVR or ZIH over the Baja penn anyday!

I am not a huge fan of PVR, but ZIH is great.

Quoting AS739X (Reply 2):
With AS arriving international fligthts into the domestic terminal now,

How are they doing that with no FIS in T3?
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Sat May 12, 2007 2:47 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
How are they doing that with no FIS in T3?

They park at Terminal 3 and bus them over to TBIT's facilities.

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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Sat May 12, 2007 2:52 am

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 10):

They park at Terminal 3 and bus them over to TBIT's facilities.

That seems counter productive. I guess it saves fuel over pushing back into the alley.
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Sat May 12, 2007 3:27 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
That seems counter productive. I guess it saves fuel over pushing back into the alley.

It saves on the time and hassle of having to either push back across the alley and also (the much more common as of recent) having to park at remote, bus pax to TBIT, and then wait for tow clearance back to T3, which, as we all know, can take a considerable amount of time depending on the time of day.

It's really no different a step than before.

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as739x
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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Sat May 12, 2007 7:21 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):

Its anything but counter productive.

A.) It takes a tug 15 minutes to drive the road from remote gates to TBIT. LA Airport PD watch the speed limit very closely there.

B.) When the A/C go to remote, it takes 2 mechanics to taxi it, which takes them away from other duties. If you have 4 planes at the remote gates there were not even enough mechanics to bring them in at the same time.

C.) And the less a plane moves, the less chance it gets damaged.

So the T-3 international arrival situation is great.

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RE: QX Applies For LAX-LTO

Sat May 12, 2007 8:24 am

i've been asking them to add SBP for a long time now ... from SEA/PDX