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Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 10:30 pm

Delta announced today that it will offer 27 helicopter flights from Wall Street and Midtown Manhattan to JFK. Total trip time will be 8 minutes and cost $159 one way. I think this is a great idea...Wall Street bankers and traders will definitely be willing to pay $159 to save an hour in travel time to JFK!

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=10701
 
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 10:40 pm

Quoting ATLflyer (Thread starter):
I think this is a great idea

Albeit an old one. PA did it for years. AA has done it as well and TW had a deal with NY Helicopter.
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 10:41 pm

This service is already operating, except it goes to the American terminal. AA wasn't getting enough pax to care, so it won't have a gate for them in the move to the new terminal. We were wondering where they were going. Now we now: the Delta terminal.
 
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 10:43 pm

So I wonder if passengers will get the minimum MQMs for each one-way flight. Eight minutes for 500 miles isn't a bad deal!
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 10:47 pm

Well only 500 MQMs for $159 is a rip-off!
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 10:48 pm

DL is just getting a service AA felt was providing nothing to their service standards or bottom line, it's moving from the AA terminal to the DL terminal.
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 10:53 pm

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 4):
Well only 500 MQMs for $159 is a rip-off!

Try getting 1000 MQMs on a $1100 r/t ATL-LIT non-refundable, advance purchase, coach ticket, THATS a rip off......

Chances are $159 will be a drop in the bucket for those who will use the service
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 11:21 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):
DL is just getting a service AA felt was providing nothing to their service standards or bottom line, it's moving from the AA terminal to the DL terminal

One would think this is a sign for DL.

How is DL changing the service from AA's to make it a viable option?

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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Thu May 10, 2007 11:35 pm

I've used the helicopter service to JFK before and here are my observations...

First, from a "coolness" standpoint, there's nothing like taking a helicopter to the airport from Manhattan. Generally the flight tracks south from the downtown aiport and past Governors Island. The views of the harbor are spectacular with the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island standing out! The flight ends all too soon though as you're at the airport in around 8 minutes. But that in itself is so amazing considering that the drive to the airport takes around 1hr or so.

The main problem I have with them is they're not that convenient for me. Considering international flights leave late at night it isn't really productive for me to leave the office at 4:00 or 5:00 to catch the 5:00 or 6:00 flight to the airport and then wait an extra hour or two. Plus, if I'm not flying on Delta (American for now), I have to exit security and then re-enter security on my departing airline. They really need to figure out a better way of handling such passengers.

Having said that, I'm glad the service exists and I hope that it succeeds.
 
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Fri May 11, 2007 1:08 am

Will this service be available to non-rev's? Also, any plans to restore the ferry service to QNY and the Shuttle?
 
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Fri May 11, 2007 2:37 am

I'm already planning how to hide this in my expense reports so I can use the service! Delta should really allow us to book from delta.com so I can make it look like part of the normal ticket price  devil 
 
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Fri May 11, 2007 2:50 am

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 9):
Will this service be available to non-rev's?

If DL begins to actually codeshare on the USHelicopter flights the same way CO is doing EWR to Manhattan, they will probably also offer the service to DL non-revs. From EWR there is a significant discount available to CO employees. The biggest problem for non-rev is the flights are only MON-FRI.
 
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Fri May 11, 2007 3:20 am

I would use it just for this.

Federally regulated TSA security clearance at NYC Heliports before arriving at JFK for departing flights;

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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Fri May 11, 2007 3:41 am

The hours are really bad, and the price still a bit high, expecially if one does not connect on DL. I would be interested in:
- checking in at 7 PM on a Friday at the Manhattan terminal for my 8:45pm AF flight

- taking of at 7:30 PM from Manhattan and have a car wait for me airside at 7:45 at JFK, taking me straight to my gate at T1. Of course my luggage would connect.

Otherwise, I might as well take the subway and Airtrain from my place, leaving at 5:45PM is enough and I do not need to ride to the Manhattan terminal... And the cost is $7...

- on the way back it's even trickier: I would land at 9PM on the Sunday, but have no idea whether my luggage and I would be cleared in 30mn or 90mn, so the helicopter service should be flexible, eg with the ability to depart at 9:30, 10 or 10:30. On Sunday nights the drive is about 30mn, so they'd better be efficient to compete. Probably on the way back the helicopter is not worth it.
 
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Fri May 11, 2007 4:17 am

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 9):
Will this service be available to non-rev's?

As Junction stated, CO employees get discounted fares, but do not get the same non-rev deal as on normal flights. If so, I can picture airline employees riding around all day long  Smile
 
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Fri May 11, 2007 9:03 pm

Unfortunately, I think this is all just a "keeping up with the Joneses" bit with all the airlines.

First, AA starts it and touts the service. Then CO has to join ship. Now DL is next up to bat. Before long, will we be seeing US Helicopter flying to JFK for Jetblue?

Personally, if you have the wallet or expense account to afford it, great. Otherwise, its just a rip-off for most people and I think it will be rarely used. I wouldn't be surprised if it was dropped within a year by everyone. Although I must say, I think it would be cool working at one of those heliports.

As far as non-revs, I am putting my money that it WON'T be available for non-revs. The flight is operated by another company, therefore its not DL metal that doing the flight. Discounts? Maybe. But free non-rev? Nope.



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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Fri May 11, 2007 10:22 pm

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 15):

Personally, if you have the wallet or expense account to afford it, great. Otherwise, its just a rip-off for most people and

I don't know....alot of people have cars pick them up both ways and that costs around $300 round trip, plus you're in the back of a car for a couple hours total. There are enough people who consider the reduced time expenditure and the convenience worth the $159 that I think the only thing that'll kill the deal is any extra hassles that regulation may inflict on this deal.

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 15):
As far as non-revs, I am putting my money that it WON'T be available for non-revs.

I'd bet that there won't be non-rev room on these flights, but if the codesharing happens then why not? If the bird is flying without a full load then a minimal charge for fuel or security ought to get non-revs on the plane.
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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Sat May 12, 2007 1:51 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 16):
I'd bet that there won't be non-rev room on these flights, but if the codesharing happens then why not? If the bird is flying without a full load then a minimal charge for fuel or security ought to get non-revs on the plane.

I can agree with you that if the flight leaves with seats, why not allow nonrevs? But you know how DL is with codeshare deals, and if you're lucky, its ID90's type deals, but nothing less. I would doubt DL would even think about nonrevs on this service. I would believe it when they actually come out with something in print.


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RE: Delta To Offer Helicopter Service To JFK

Sat May 12, 2007 1:58 am

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 13):
- on the way back it's even trickier: I would land at 9PM on the Sunday, but have no idea whether my luggage and I would be cleared in 30mn or 90mn, so the helicopter service should be flexible, eg with the ability to depart at 9:30, 10 or 10:30. On Sunday nights the drive is about 30mn, so they'd better be efficient to compete. Probably on the way back the helicopter is not worth it.

If the helicopter runs are M-F, you couldn't use it on a Sunday.
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