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Air India 77L?

Tue May 15, 2007 4:49 am

Sorry guys, questions keep popping up in my head.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...=1&prev_id=&next_id=1174909&size=L

in the caption of this image, it says it could go to DL instead of AI...

True, false or just a rumour? If true then if it didnt go to DL could an airline quickly buy it for its own ops even if it didnt have an order??


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RE: Air India 77L?

Tue May 15, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting FlyTUITravel (Thread starter):
True, false or just a rumour? If true then if it didnt go to DL could an airline quickly buy it for its own ops even if it didnt have an order??

It was quite the rumor last month. But if DL can swing it and AI doesn't want it, DL could sure use it for the JFK-BOM run as well as taking the DKR stop out of the ATL-JNB run.

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RE: Air India 77L?

Tue May 15, 2007 5:05 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
AI doesn't want it

Why might Air India not want it? I must've missed something!


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RE: Air India 77L?

Tue May 15, 2007 5:10 am

That rumour is nothing but a rumour. The AI 772LRs are still at Paine Field, waiting to be re-painted in the new (yet to be revealed) livery of the merged (Air India - Indian Airlines) entity.

Apparently an AI team is to visit Paine Field soon. How the new livery looks like, remains to be seen.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
It was quite the rumor last month. But if DL can swing it and AI doesn't want it, DL could sure use it for the JFK-BOM run as well as taking the DKR stop out of the ATL-JNB run.
 
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Tue May 15, 2007 5:11 am

The Indian cabinet is requesting reviewing the 777 order (787 is safe) followed by the merger of Air India and Indian Airlines.
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RE: Air India 77L?

Tue May 15, 2007 10:33 am

Quoting Vivekman2006 (Reply 3):
That rumour is nothing but a rumour. The AI 772LRs are still at Paine Field, waiting to be re-painted in the new (yet to be revealed) livery of the merged (Air India - Indian Airlines) entity.

Apparently an AI team is to visit Paine Field soon. How the new livery looks like, remains to be seen.



Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 4):
The Indian cabinet is requesting reviewing the 777 order (787 is safe) followed by the merger of Air India and Indian Airlines.

I think both the above conclusions, as well as the "going to DL" rumour, are wrong.....the planes are stuck in Seattle because there are some issues about the seats that are to be installed in the planes.....involves some Italian company IIRC.....

However, the livery issue will remain up in the air until the very last moment  wink  pun unintended....
 
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RE: Air India 77L?

Tue May 15, 2007 12:54 pm

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 4):
The Indian cabinet is requesting reviewing the 777 order

Where did you get that news from.
The Truth is that they are due for Livery paint job & replacement of seats.

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RE: Air India 77L?

Tue May 15, 2007 1:39 pm

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 4):
The Indian cabinet is requesting reviewing the 777 order (787 is safe) followed by the merger of Air India and Indian Airlines.

I think the report on that was actually referring to reviewing the financing for the 777s and not the actual order.
 
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RE: Air India 77L?

Tue May 15, 2007 10:54 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 6):
The Truth is that they are due for Livery paint job & replacement of seats.

After coming up with a truly good livery on the new 772's, if they change that to some other design.....total disaster....why can't they just adopt this 772 livery for the new entity....?
 
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Wed May 16, 2007 3:10 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 8):
why can't they just adopt this 772 livery for the new entity

Guess they need to please both IC & AI.Since they agreed on the New name stays "Air India.I thought the Livery chosen was a great one too.

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Wed May 16, 2007 3:18 pm

rumor is that the scheme will stay the same but the centaur will be replaced with the symbol that Indian was using.

The merged airline will be called Air India BTW

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Wed May 16, 2007 4:24 pm

If AI doesn't take them DL will. Simple as that.

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RE: Air India 77L?

Wed May 16, 2007 5:56 pm

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 11):
If AI doesn't take them DL will. Simple as that.

AI is taking them. If DL needs 77Ls they can order more of them. Even simpler  Smile
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RE: Air India 77L?

Wed May 16, 2007 6:50 pm

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 11):
If AI doesn't take them DL will. Simple as that.

AI desperatly needs them.
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RE: Air India 77L?

Wed May 16, 2007 7:16 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
AI desperatly needs them.

And will definitely take them, of course once they decide on their new livery. They was also talk of looking for more 772LRs for the future.

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Wed May 16, 2007 7:22 pm

Its not going anywhere but coming to Air India/ Indian ........... Other than livery they also holding it as they are thinking of upgrading their earlier selection of seats etc. Looks like they were really taken aback by Jets new Interior
 
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Wed May 16, 2007 7:38 pm

Well good to hear that the 777s will indeed ALL get to Air India.
The new fleet of this entity is going to be very diverse, including orders and current fleet:

744 (8 + 1 Combi)
743Combi (2)
773ER (15)
772ER (3 + 1 Non-ER)
772LR (8)
787-8 (27)
763 (1)
A310 (19)
737NG (20)
plus Indian's
A330, A300, A321, A320, A319, 737, ATRs and Dornier 228s

Very diverse fleet especially in the long haul dept.
Perhaps AI will rationalize to 788, 77L, 77W and a VLA
Short haul- that's a different story!!

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RE: Air India 77L?

Wed May 16, 2007 8:12 pm

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 16):
A310 (19)

a little off topic but

I personally think its time for AI to retire their rickety old A310s, I wonder what can replace these??!! Any ideas?

A321??? or will they just use Indians' a/c to operate where the A310 now fly to??  Smile
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RE: Air India 77L?

Wed May 16, 2007 9:25 pm

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 17):
I personally think its time for AI to retire their rickety old A310s, I wonder what can replace these??!! Any ideas

They already are in the process of converting them to Cargo freighters... one has already been completed if im not mistaken.

Infact im pretty sure  Smile

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Wed May 16, 2007 10:13 pm

Wow Since You put all of them down .......they seem to have everything there .........

And read somewhere IC was looking for 10 A 330's
 
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RE: Air India 77L?

Wed May 16, 2007 11:35 pm

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 18):
They already are in the process of converting them to Cargo freighters... one has already been completed if im not mistaken.

Infact im pretty sure


Of course, there was a discussion on this somewhere, thanks though  Smile

So all the 19 will be converted to freighters??

Quoting Mohan (Reply 19):
And read somewhere IC was looking for 10 A 330's

Me too!!

Does anyone have any ideas how IC will go about achieving this??  Smile

Also, is there a date set for the arrival of the 1st 772LR in BOM or DEL??? Has the month when the delivery will take place decided yet or the cabinet is just being wishy-washy like the people at AI with their decision on the livery?
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Wed May 16, 2007 11:44 pm

The delayed seats rumor is simply not true.
 
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RE: Air India 77L?

Wed May 16, 2007 11:50 pm

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 20):
Does anyone have any ideas how IC will go about achieving this??

They have so far leased 2 A330s form what I remember reading on here.

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 21):
The delayed seats rumor is simply not true.

So what is the reason for the 'delay'?? Painting into the new-new livery??

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RE: Air India 77L?

Thu May 17, 2007 12:22 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 21):
The delayed seats rumor is simply not true

Whats your story.
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RE: Air India 77L?

Thu May 17, 2007 12:31 am

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 20):
So all the 19 will be converted to freighters??

Of the 19 odd A310's that AI flies, only 6 or 8 of them belong to AI...rest are leased and will be returned at end of lease....it's only the owned aircrafts that will be converted to freighter use....not sure how many of them, as such....

In addition, I think the two 743's are also being converted to freighter.....
 
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RE: Air India 77L?

Thu May 17, 2007 5:51 pm

Noticed a AI A310 freighter land & taxi out last night around 0200hrs.Was too busy working to notice the Reg marks.The MDCD cutout surrounding area & Aft fuselage was not painted.

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RE: Air India 77L?

Thu May 17, 2007 11:07 pm

air india is getting the 777 in late june, there is a possibility, that the paintings will be changed again,

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