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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 8:34 pm

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FRANKFURT (Dow Jones)--German tourism and shipping company TUI AG (TUI1.XE) said Wednesday it wants to order 11 Dreamliners 787 from Boeing Co (BA).

TUI made the statement at the company's annual shareholders' meeting.

So far, it was only known that TUI wanted to purchase 11 airplanes, however, the company failed to disclose which model it was after.

The Dreamliner order is for the years 2010 to 2013, TUI said.

Since they named a specific date, it sounds like an LoI rather than a statement of intention.

TUI Specifies Boeing Order Is For 11 Dreamliners 787
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 8:48 pm

If true, good news! This will increase the competition to popular holiday destinations.
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 8:51 pm

So I suppose these birds are going to Thomsonfly, TUIfly Nordic, Arkefly and maybe Corsairfly? There have been some rumors about TUIfly (the former HF) starting longhaul flights beginning in winter 2008 ex Germany, so meybe there is another market for them (although only a small fraction of those 11 planes would be needed there right away).
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 9:08 pm

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
There have been some rumors about TUIfly (the former HF) starting longhaul flights beginning in winter 2008

I really hope so, but I don't think their 787s would be delivered that fast.
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 9:10 pm

If they succeed with their merger with First Choice they'll actually have 23 787s on order.

Quoting N328KF (Thread starter):
Since they named a specific date, it sounds like an LoI rather than a statement of intention.

There are 11 UFO 787-8s booked on 15-Sep-2006 listed on Boeings O&D website.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm A user defined search will show those.

In December on the 15th TUI released a statement that they would order up to 41 Boeings though they were not too specific on models and a breakdown. Boeing released a statement, it was made clear that including what TUI already had on backlog, in addition to the new orders, that their backlog increased to 65 frames. Not to many were listed so one was left with the impression that some were already booked as UFOs.

SEATTLE, Dec. 15, 2006 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] is delighted to confirm that the TUI Group has announced a major fleet renewal involving the purchase of 41 Boeing airplanes valued at $3.6 billion at list prices.

This order brings the total order backlog of TUI with Boeing to a total of 65 aircraft, some of which were previously recorded on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries website as unidentified.


http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q4/061215d_nr.html

Today, May 16 2007, TUI Chief Executive Officer Mr Michael Frenzel stated that TUI had a total of 58 outstanding orders accounted for, a "ticker bomb" from a subscriber only service below;

*TUI CEO SAYS COMPANY NOW HAS 58 PLANE ORDERS WITH BOEING

In my opinion these are the 11 ordered as UFOs in September last year, if the First Choice merger goes through then it will be 23 787s and they intend to start a new long haul carrier in 2008 utilising the delivery slots that First Choice had secured.

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Wed May 16, 2007 9:10 pm

Has to be re-written: "TUI confirms B787 order", reported this way in the German financial press (FTD). They clearly refer to TUI´s December order for these 11 frames in the article.
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 9:22 pm

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 5):
Has to be re-written: "TUI confirms B787 order", reported this way in the German financial press (FTD). They clearly refer to TUI´s December order for these 11 frames in the article.

Got a link?
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 9:28 pm

Only German so far:

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Der Reise- und Schifffahrtskonzern TUI bekräftigt seine zwei Säulen-Strategie und ordert acht neue Containerschiffe sowie elf Boeing 787 Dreamliner. Mit dieser Konkretisierung der Flugzeug-Order vom Dezember und der Bestellung von zwölf der Jets durch den Fusionspartner First Choice verfüge der künftige Touristik-Riese TUI Travel über "eine der größten 787-Flotten mit den frühestens Lieferterminen in Europa", sagte TUI-Chef Michael Frenzel am Mittwoch bei der Hauptversammlung des Konzerns in Hannover. Die Bestellung ohne Angabe des Flugzeug-Typs hatte TUI bereits im Dezember bekannt gegeben. Die Jets sollen zwischen 2010 und 2013 ausgeliefert werden.

Direct translation:

Travel and shipping group Tui confirms its two-tier strategy and orders 8 new container vessels and 11 Boeing 787 Dreamliner. With the detailing of this plane order from December and together with its merger partner First Choice TuiTravel will have one of the larges B787 fleets in Europe with earliest delivery dates said TUI CEO Michael Frenzel on Wednesday. The plane order had been announced by Tui in December already, however without detailling the types ordered. The jets are targeted for delivery between 2010 and 2013.

EDIT:

an here we have it now in English:

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He also said 11 Boeing (nyse: BA - news - people ) 787 Dreamliners from a previously announced order and 12 jets ordered by merger partner First Choice Holidays will create 'one of the biggest 787 fleets with the earliest delivery dates in Europe.'

TUI in December said it had outstanding orders for 65 Boeing aircraft, including 24 previously ordered planes, with a value of more than 3 bln eur.

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/afx/2007/05/16/afx3726132.html

[Edited 2007-05-16 14:30:21]
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Wed May 16, 2007 10:25 pm

If I recall correctly the press release last year was that TUI has ordered short and longhaul aircraft from Boeing mostly 737s. So this is infact a confirmation of that order. I really was hoping for TUI to order the 787 too bad that the aircraft will carry that ugly yellow paint scheme and not the Hapag Lloyd colors.
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 10:33 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 8):
too bad that the aircraft will carry that ugly yellow paint scheme and not the Hapag Lloyd colors.

Well, that's a matter of taste. I never liked this blue livery, especially in combination with a blue sky. But wouldn't a 787 in the good old HLX taxi livery look damn sexy?  Wink
 
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 10:38 pm

Quoting Fraport (Reply 9):
Well, that's a matter of taste. I never liked this blue livery, especially in combination with a blue sky. But wouldn't a 787 in the good old HLX taxi livery look damn sexy? Wink

I was referring to the old HF color scheme not that baby blue one....  Smile
Anyway a German forum reports the following:

The December order of TUI included 737-700, -800 and 787-9. TUI has the option to change some of the 737s on order into -900ERs.
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 10:46 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 10):
The December order of TUI included 737-700, -800 and 787-9. TUI has the option to change some of the 737s on order into -900ERs.

So this is not the 11 x 787 UFO order from mid-September?

[Edited 2007-05-16 15:47:18]
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 10:58 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 11):
o this is not the 11 x 787 UFO order from mid-September?

Was the order placed in September ? Sorry I must have mixed that up somehow. But yes it is part of the previous order.

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No pictures, yet ??
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Wed May 16, 2007 11:14 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 12):
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 11):
o this is not the 11 x 787 UFO order from mid-September?

Was the order placed in September ? Sorry I must have mixed that up somehow. But yes it is part of the previous order.

To clarify, it is the order from September 2006......

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 4):
This order brings the total order backlog of TUI with Boeing to a total of 65 aircraft, some of which were previously recorded on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries website as unidentified.

.....which in turn was part of the announcement made on December 15, 2006.

Refer to reply #4 for details

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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 12:24 am

Quoting Columba (Reply 12):
Was the order placed in September ? Sorry I must have mixed that up somehow. But yes it is part of the previous order.

Yeah I was confused because you said the 787 model is the -9 and according to Boeing's web site the order is for the -8.
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 12:36 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 14):
Yeah I was confused because you said the 787 model is the -9 and according to Boeing's web site the order is for the -8.

I have not heard from a official source yet whether it is a -8 or -9. The -9 information is from a very relieble source in a German forum. Former a.net member Johnny who was the one who also predicted the 747-8 order from LH last year.
But since HLF used A310s as their long haul aircraft the 787-8 seems to be the more logical choice.
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 1:06 am

Confirmed as -8s and also 50 737 UFOs now have a name next to them.

Press Release:

Boeing Announces Contracts for 11 787 Dreamliners and 50 Next-Generation 737s with TUI Group
Wednesday May 16, 11:10 am ET

SEATTLE, May 16 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA - News) today announced orders for 11 787-8 Dreamliners and 50 Next-Generation 737s with TUI Group, Europe's largest integrated-tourism company. The orders were previously recorded on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries Web site as unidentified. The value of the orders is approximately $4.7 billion at list prices. Two of the airplanes have since been delivered and identified.

New-technology benefits such as lightweight composites and innovative engine technology will allow TUI Group airlines to implement ongoing efficiency improvements.

"The 787's unprecedented environmental performance will make it an incredibly valuable asset as we look to reduce our carbon output," said Dr. Michael Frenzel, chairman of the TUI AG board. "The 787 will offer a 20 percent reduction in emissions and has a 60 percent smaller noise footprint for our airport communities. It is the green airplane we need for greener operations."

TUI Group has not announced an engine supplier for its 787s.

TUI Group plans to put the airplanes into service with Arkefly in The Netherlands, Belgium-based Jetairfly, Thomsonfly of the United Kingdom, Germany-based TUIfly and the Scandinavian operator TUIfly Nordic. All TUI Group airlines will leverage the 787's breakthrough economics, passenger appeal and environmental efficiency to continue and expand services within Europe and to Asia and North America.

The Next-Generation 737s will be operated on short- and medium-haul routes by all TUI airlines.

All of the 737s will be fitted with advanced Blended Winglets, which reduce aerodynamic drag, thereby increasing fuel efficiency and range while reducing carbon emissions and takeoff noise.

"Boeing is extremely proud of the partnership that exists with the TUI Group," said Marlin Dailey, vice president of Sales for Europe, Russia and Central Asia, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "As a company that operates throughout Europe, TUI will capture significant benefits by operating a common fleet of Next-Generation 737s and 787s across the group. The ability to move aircraft from one fleet to another to satisfy changing demands will allow TUI to be extremely nimble and flexible -- a must in today's highly competitive environment. TUI can also reap the benefits of a mixed fleet flying both the 737 and the 787."

To assist TUI, Boeing is working to create a training program that will allow pilots to transition easily from one airplane type to another, so that cross-training costs are minimized and fleet efficiency is maximized.

The selection of the Next-Generation 737 reflects the airplane's great success with TUI Group airlines.

"TUI's order is a reaffirmation of the value that airlines derive from the 737's exceptional economics, technology, reliability and environmental performance," Dailey said.

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner provides passengers with a better flying experience and operators with more efficient commercial jetliners. Using 20 percent less fuel per passenger than similarly sized airplanes, the 787 is designed for the environment with lower emissions and quieter takeoffs and landings. Inside the airplane, passengers will find cleaner air, bigger windows, more stowage space and improved lighting.

Forty-four customers worldwide have placed 567 orders for the 787 since its launch in April 2004, making the Dreamliner the world's fastest-selling commercial airplane. The 787 enters service in 2008.

The digitally designed Next-Generation 737 is the most technologically advanced airplane in the single-aisle market. With a bigger wing and more powerful engines, the 737 can fly higher, faster and farther than previous models and its competitor.

As of April 30, Boeing had received orders for more than 3,800 Next- Generation 737s, and has unfilled orders exceeding 1,500 airplanes, worth over $100 billion at current list prices.


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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting N1786b (Reply 16):
Confirmed as -8s and also 50 737 UFOs now have a name next to them.

Press Release

Still no picture ?
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 1:41 am

Quoting Columba (Reply 17):
Still no picture ?

http://boeingmedia.com/imageDetail.cfm?id=14890&clr=release


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BTW - very curious on how they are going to spread 11 aircraft among 5 airlines. . .
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 1:57 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 18):
http://boeingmedia.com/imageDetail.cfm?id=14890&clr=release


Regards,


Thanks !!

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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 1:57 am

The intention to buy approx. 60 Boeing frames, without specifying which models, were already
announced end 2006 and acknowledges on Boeing news

As the WSJ article is already readable by suscribers, here i add the one by Yahoo.

[url]Boeing Announces Contracts for 11 787 Dreamliners and 50 Next-Generation 737s with TUI Group
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070516/sfw023.html?.v=94[/url]

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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 2:06 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 18):
BTW - very curious on how they are going to spread 11 aircraft among 5 airlines. . .

Well if the merger with FCA happens then it'll be 23 airplanes across 6 airlines!
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 2:10 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 18):
BTW - very curious on how they are going to spread 11 aircraft among 5 airlines. . .

Indeed, an intersting question but if I understand it correctly the Boeing article refers to all the aircraft including the 737s. The yahoo article on the other hand is saying that the 787 is planed to be put into service with Arkefly in The Netherlands, Belgium-based Jetairfly, Thomsonfly of the United Kingdom, Germany-based TUIfly and the Scandinavian operator TUIfly Nordic and is refering to the 737s seperatly.
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TUI To Order 11 787s and 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 10:07 am

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
So I suppose these birds are going to Thomsonfly, TUIfly Nordic, Arkefly and maybe Corsairfly?



Quoting N1786b (Reply 16):
TUI Group plans to put the airplanes into service with Arkefly in The Netherlands, Belgium-based Jetairfly, Thomsonfly of the United Kingdom, Germany-based TUIfly and the Scandinavian operator TUIfly Nordic.

Well, I really hope Arkefly will indeed receive the 787 as well and sooner rather than later. I would love to see the 787 land here in CUR!!!!! Besides the 767's Arkefly currently operate are not the best 767's unfortunately.

If anyone can confirm Arkefly will indeed receive a few 787's and when they will receive their first 787 please let me know via this forum or send me a private message or email.

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RE: TUI To Order 11 787s And 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 10:22 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 23):
If anyone can confirm Arkefly will indeed receive a few 787's and when they will receive their first 787 please let me know via this forum or send me a private message or email.

I think you don't need another confirmation that Arkefly will receive a 787 as it already been said in the press release. The question is just when and how many of the 11 they get ? Same with the other airlines of the TUI group.

Interesting question is how TUI will deal with the crews. Since they will own 11 Boeing 787s which will be operated by 5 different airlines will these 787s be flown by a common pool of pilots ?
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RE: TUI To Order 11 787s And 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 10:36 pm

This is just a formal announcement of what has been known to many for several months. First Choice/TUI mentioned on several occasions that the combined entity had ordered 23 788s. It was no state secret that the 11 788 UFOs booked last September were for TUI.
 
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RE: TUI To Order 11 787s And 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 11:09 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 24):
I think you don't need another confirmation that Arkefly will receive a 787 as it already been said in the press release. The question is just when and how many of the 11 they get ? Same with the other airlines of the TUI group.

I must have overlooked that part in the press release. I think Arkefly will be one of the last airlines to get the 787 as they have a very small fleet of just three 767's. I hope to be proven wrong though!!!  Smile

Quoting Columba (Reply 24):
Interesting question is how TUI will deal with the crews. Since they will own 11 Boeing 787s which will be operated by 5 different airlines will these 787s be flown by a common pool of pilots ?

That is a very good question. How will the TUI Group manage the crewing of these new aircraft with all the different branches (TUI Group airlines)? I know a few stewardesses at Arkefly and they told me they can not be transferred to another TUI airline. If an Arkefly employee wants to work for another TUI member airline they will need to send their application in the same way another applicant would.

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RE: TUI To Order 11 787s And 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 11:26 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 26):
I must have overlooked that part in the press release. I think Arkefly will be one of the last airlines to get the 787 as they have a very small fleet of just three 767's. I hope to be proven wrong though!!!

Tuifly in Germany has no longhaul aircraft at all at the moment so that could either mean they are one of the first or the last to get their aircraft.
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RE: TUI To Order 11 787s And 50 737s

Thu May 17, 2007 11:36 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 27):
Tuifly in Germany has no longhaul aircraft at all at the moment so that could either mean they are one of the first or the last to get their aircraft.

Indeed. I would like to know how the TUI Group prioritizes all the member airlines. Which airline will receive the 787 first? If someone working for the TUI Group can shed some light on this that would give me less sleepless nights because I'm anxious to see the 787 here in CUR. I would like to know  Smile

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RE: TUI To Order 11 787s And 50 737s

Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:26 am

As already said, they are UFO's.

Anyway is supossed Big grin all airlines of TUI will be the same whole company in the future, isnt it?

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