Dazed767
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UPS A300's?

Thu Aug 03, 2000 6:02 am

Does UPS have A300's? I have never seen one, and today I caught one at MCO doing touch and goes for awhile. Got lots of pics of her, and I'll upload the pics tonight.
 
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A300F4-622R

Thu Aug 03, 2000 6:36 am

A300F4-622R is the aircraft, they got thier first one last month.
 
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RE: A300F4-622R

Thu Aug 03, 2000 12:58 pm

The first one was delivered last Friday 7/28/2000. It will be doing proving runs for the next few weeks. Should have 7 in the fleet by November of this year
 
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RE: UPS A300's?

Thu Aug 03, 2000 5:30 pm

They have 20 on firm order, the last to be delivered by November 2001.....MSN's 0805 to 0824......another 10 are planned afterwards.......
 
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RE: UPS A300's?

Thu Aug 03, 2000 6:08 pm

Does anyone know where UPS is going to fly the A300's? I assume just to the main sorting hubs (SDF, RFD, ONT, DSM, EWR, etc...?) Or are they going to be used for trans-atlantic routes?

Thanks!

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RE: UPS A300's?

Thu Aug 03, 2000 9:52 pm

The A300s are going to be used on domestic routes, mainly out of SDF. There are no short term plans to use the airplane for trans-Atlantic or intra-European routes.
I saw ship #1 coming into SDF last Friday on it's delivery flight, it got quite a welcome from the controllers.

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RE: UPS A300's?

Thu Aug 03, 2000 11:27 pm

Just a quick question, when do the 727's have to be retired by due to these hushkitting regulations? Or it continually changing?

RGDS.......
 
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RE: UPS A300's?

Fri Aug 04, 2000 3:53 am

The 727s (all of them???) were re-engines w/ Rolls-Royce Tay engines and are Stage III compliant.

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SammyK

Fri Aug 04, 2000 10:19 pm

Only the 100 series 72's were re-engined the 200 series are equipped with hush kits.

Right now there are no plans to retire any aircraft. UPS has dry leased 2 747-200's to add to the fleet of 74's. One in service now the other is almost thru with being converted. This is because of increased demand for additional lift.

The only way right now a aircraft will be retired is if it becomes economically unfeasible to repair or becomes unairworthy. This is not likely to happen soon though. The DC-8's are the oldest aircraft in the fleet but with all the electronic cockpit modifications, re-engining, and the mass amount of spares UPS has these will be flying for a while. The same holds true for the other aircraft in the fleet.
 
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RE: UPS A300's?

Fri Aug 04, 2000 11:18 pm

.......that's true for the US only though, isn't it? What was the result of the war between the US and the EU over banning hushkitted aircraft in 2-3 years?? UPS's entire European network consists of 727's (and a few Electra's and smaller a/c), they'd be in serious trouble if the laws were to come into force.........
 
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RE: UPS A300's?

Sat Aug 05, 2000 12:18 am

I photographed the new UPS A300F at DFW yesterday, it came in about 640pm.....Nice looking ....
 
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RE: UPS A300's?

Sat Aug 05, 2000 4:48 am

The UPS A300 is still out at DFW today (08/04) undergoing ground crew familiarization(?). I got several pictures of it too.

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Widebody

Sat Aug 05, 2000 7:03 am

UPS has 76's and 74's feeding to and from Europe from the United States. The majority of aircraft that UPS uses for Intra-European ops are 727-100's. 6 of them have European reg. numbers. UPS only has 8 727-200's. There are 3rd party carriers used in Europe that feed from the main gateways to smaller cities.
As far as the hush kit issue between the US and Europe that is still up in the air   I think. The 727-100's that UPS uses have nothing to worry about. The only aircraft in the fleet that would have problems would be the 727-200's.
 
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RE: Widebody/UPS Pilot

Sat Aug 05, 2000 1:19 pm

That's because the RR Tays are stage III compliant, right?
 
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RE: UPS A300's?

Sat Aug 05, 2000 2:09 pm

People forget when UPS gets its hands on a freighter airplane, they're NOT just getting a passenger plane.

The 721's that UPS owns are not only heavily modified, but also sport modern EFIS cockpits and use the Rolls-Royce Tay hi-bypass turbofan (that's why the S-duct into the #2 engine had to be modified). They are not only FAR Part 36 Stage III compliant, but are also quite fuel-efficient, too.

And the D8's that UPS has are mostly Cammacorp-upgraded planes with modern instrumentation and CFM56 engines, which also means improved fuel efficiency and Stage III compliancy.

Given that UPS does run 24-hour flight operations out of most of the airports they fly into, they have to fly planes that are Stage III compliant because (I believe) FAA regulations at airports that run 24-hour operations require the planes to all be Stage III compliant starting this year.
 
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RE: UPS A300's?

Sat Aug 05, 2000 11:32 pm

Please post some UPS A300 pictures asap! I haven't found any yet on the net.
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RE: UPS A300's?

Sun Aug 06, 2000 1:53 am

UPS has 30 firm orders and 30 options. However, in the Airbus contract UPS can also take advantage of up to 15 additional "rolling" options that can only be used if we exercise the first 15 of our options. In other words, each time UPS exercises an option, the company receives an additional option, up to 15 aircraft. Therefore it is possible that UPS could exercise as many as 45 options.

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Here Are The Pics!

Wed Aug 09, 2000 5:54 pm


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