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UK International Airlines

Thu May 17, 2007 11:40 pm

It sems this carrier is going to get off the ground, despite what appeared to be a shaky start.

http://www.ukinternationalairlines.com/1.html

They have 2 B767-200s, one of which arrived at EMA today, more pictures available on their website here



Not the most imaginative livery, but better than all white I suppose! They are to commence flights initially to Sharjah in the UAE and also to Islamabad and Lahore in Pakistan. It doesn't appear that they have change the seating layout BUT they will not be pre-assigning seating, so it'll be a mad rush to get on the aircraft and find a seat with your relatives no doubt!

Still, they are aiming to offer cheap fares, and it's probably a rare chance now to fly a non ER 762, so I think I'd probably fly them, how about others?


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RE: UK International Airlines

Thu May 17, 2007 11:54 pm

No assigned seating on that kind of flight is completely stark, raving bonkers. Imagine the chaos at the gate! Punch-ups when groups try to swap seats around. Still - it'll make Pakistan look less dis-ordered when you eventually arrive
 
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 12:46 am

Picture Link was missing a 'G' at the end  Smile

http://www.ukinternationalairlines.com/resources/DSC00228.JPG
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 2:38 am

Interior looks dated to say the least. Nice enough livery. Wonder who is doing their maintenance?  scratchchin 
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 3:12 am

The actual company seems based in Sheffield, yet they have no plans to operate from DSA.......
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 3:24 am

Quoting BAPILOT2B (Reply 4):
The actual company seems based in Sheffield, yet they have no plans to operate from DSA.......

I'm not surprised, EMA is much closer to the Birmingham area, Nottingham and Leicester which are major population centers for the ethnic minorities, or as now is increasingly becoming the case, the ethnic majorities.


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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 3:32 am

Quoting BAPILOT2B (Reply 4):

They planned to start services from DSA I think, I wish them the best though I am a bit dissapointed they will not fly from DSA. There would have been enough demand with ethnic communities in Yorkshire.

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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 3:38 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
I'm not surprised, EMA is much closer to the Birmingham area, Nottingham and Leicester which are major population centers for the ethnic minorities, or as now is increasingly becoming the case, the ethnic majorities.

Fair point Dan. I would have said DSA is only an hour up the M1 from those populations......but then I forgot DSA is one of the worst airports location wise and can be quite confusing to find if you are not from the local area. Now if only the runway at SZD was long enough, that would be a different matter.
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Fri May 18, 2007 3:53 am

Quoting BAPILOT2B (Reply 7):

It's not bad when you look up the directions, the signs are easily located on all major roads in the area. If you remember Shaheen Air was planning to start a service but no further details have been launched.

Road and Motorway Links

The Airport is located close to the M18 Motorway, but with no direct link road. Also nearby are the A1(M) Motorway, M62 motorway, M1 motorway roads. A direct motorway road link from the M18 junction 3 to the airport is planned and is expected to open by 20102. There is also a connection from Junction 34 of the A1(M) Motorway. The Airport has 2,500 car parking spaces.

Map sources for Robin Hood Airport, located at 53‹28Œ29N, 1‹0Œ16W

Rail Links

Doncaster station is a major UK Railway Station and is served by Northern Rail, Virgin Trains, GNER, TransPennine Express, Central Trains, Midland Mainline and Hull Trains. Doncaster is 1 Hour 35 Mins from London Kings Cross or 20 Mins from Sheffield Station (using direct services). From Doncaster Station several direct bus services transport passengers to the Airport.

In addition, the airport lies alongside the Doncaster to Lincoln railway line, and plans for a station have been submitted for local planning permission.

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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 3:55 am

Quoting BAPILOT2B (Reply 4):
The actual company seems based in Sheffield, yet they have no plans to operate from DSA.......

I read, on a certain other rumour site, that cabin crews will have to go to Sheffield when on standby duties to help with paperwork at the head office!! Also, the head office is an office above a furniture store in Sheffield?? Do the owners of UKIA own the furniture store as well? Also heard the the cabin crew are bonded for £1800 until they have completed 2 years service. Ok, this was only off another rumour forum, but it all seems a bit strange....

[Edited 2007-05-17 20:56:14]
 
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 3:59 am

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 3):
Wonder who is doing their maintenance?

PIA  Wink


Sounds like the flight from hell to me!! No assigned seating , it will be like a bus .
 
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 5:09 am

Quoting ZBA320 (Reply 2):
Picture Link was missing a 'G' at the end

Thanks, wondered what was wrong!  Smile

Quoting Dsa (Reply 6):
There would have been enough demand with ethnic communities in Yorkshire.

I think what they aim to do is try and give them access to as much of the market as possible in the UK. As is says on their site, initially they plan to serve EMA, but then also expanding services to and from a LON airport and also MAN. There was another airline to operate from MAN to Pakistan with B742's, but they have faded into history now it seems.

Quoting BAPILOT2B (Reply 7):
Fair point Dan. I would have said DSA is only an hour up the M1 from those populations......but then I forgot DSA is one of the worst airports location wise and can be quite confusing to find if you are not from the local area. Now if only the runway at SZD was long enough, that would be a different matter.

Yeah, it would be the ideal location! I wonder though, could a B762 take off from LBA on flights of 6-8 hours to the Middle East and India? I think range of the non ER -200s would be a major issue for some of the flights they plan, such as Sri Lanka.

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 9):
I read, on a certain other rumour site, that cabin crews will have to go to Sheffield when on standby duties to help with paperwork at the head office!! Also, the head office is an office above a furniture store in Sheffield?? Do the owners of UKIA own the furniture store as well? Also heard the the cabin crew are bonded for £1800 until they have completed 2 years service. Ok, this was only off another rumour forum, but it all seems a bit strange....

Yeah, that doesn't sound like the greatest of employment deals, but I suppose the meager headquarters will also be attracting less of a premium as far as rent and overheads are concerned.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
Sounds like the flight from hell to me!! No assigned seating , it will be like a bus .

Much of the UK-India/Pakistan/Middle East market is highly price conscious, when you think an Indian (or other) family travelling to the UK to see friends/relatives is probably going to be considerably larger than the average wife/husband and 2.4 children that is more coming in native British families, then the cost will be everything.


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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 5:17 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):

There's been loads of airlines trying to capture the UK-Pakistan market hasn't there? Swefly, Shaheen and others come to mind, they do all seem to fade and cease to exist . . .

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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 5:32 am

They do indeed, but none of the recent ones have ever gotten to the stage of acquiring their aircraft, the financing for that has always been the sticking point. UKIA seems to have overcome that hurdle, so hopefully they may well fly, literally!


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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 5:50 am

From the interior shots, looks like an ex -UA aircraft
 
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 5:55 am

Quoting Algoz (Reply 14):
From the interior shots, looks like an ex -UA aircraft

G-CECU = Boeing 767-222, Serial 21864, ex N603UA
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 6:26 am

I think it's been commented on before, but the UKIA logo on the side looks like a passenger adopting the brace position...
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 7:14 am

I do think their onboard product needs refining a bit though and their bookings would jump if they simply allowed online bookings. Just a few little touches and it could be a decent airline, maybe allocated seats, IFE and an interior reconfig would be a start.

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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 7:22 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):
Much of the UK-India/Pakistan/Middle East market is highly price conscious, when you think an Indian (or other) family travelling to the UK to see friends/relatives is probably going to be considerably larger than the average wife/husband and 2.4 children that is more coming in native British families, then the cost will be everything.

Oh I know LOL...my Dads side of the family is East Indian.. he always goes on about price!!! Drives me mad Im the opposite.
 
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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 7:46 am

Quoting Dsa (Reply 17):
I do think their onboard product needs refining a bit though and their bookings would jump if they simply allowed online bookings.

They will be I think, from their site;

"Tickets for travel on the airline will be sold through reputable Travel Agencies in various towns and cities, as indeed on the Internet. The cost of tickets will be kept at levels of affordability."

I'd certainly be interested in flying the 762 if they are affordable, they will have a separate pricing structure for students which hopefully will make it more affordable still!


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RE: UK International Airlines

Fri May 18, 2007 9:39 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
Sounds like the flight from hell to me!! No assigned seating , it will be like a bus .

Yup, sounds like the flight from hell indeed...  devil 

What's so special about a 767-200 anyway? Or are they all about to be chopped up???
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