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BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Fri May 18, 2007 6:59 pm

Now that part 1 has nearly 250 posts, heres part 2
BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007! (by KL911 May 14 2007 in Civil Aviation)

I can see Boeing winning this order because of their recent 4x B772ER order, especially since it was said somewhere, think it was BA that if they decide to go with Boeing then, they would make a small B772ER earlier which has happened.
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Fri May 18, 2007 7:15 pm

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
I can see Boeing winning this order because of their recent 4x B772ER order

Cmon, thats like saying you expect Airbus to win becuase BA just ordered A320s. The airlines has said that for interm expansion, they were going to order a small amount of either A330s or 777-200ERs. I would not expect BA to order 4 737NGs if they needed some interm expansion of the short haul fleet (despite the Gatwick 737 fleet), so I cant say Im surprised that they did not order 4 A330s for interm expansion of their long haul fleet.

At the end of the day, I think whoever offers the best deal on all fronts will win, and it could easily be split as the Airline has stated.
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Fri May 18, 2007 9:32 pm

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
I can see Boeing winning this order because of their recent 4x B772ER order, especially since it was said somewhere, think it was BA that if they decide to go with Boeing then, they would make a small B772ER earlier which has happened.



Quoting EI321 (Reply 1):
Cmon, thats like saying you expect Airbus to win becuase BA just ordered A320s.

BA did originally state whomever won the interim lift order between the 772ER and A333 would win the future lift order between the 787 and A350. However, BA then distanced themselves from that statement, followed by choosing the 772ER for (at least part of) the interim lift order.
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Fri May 18, 2007 9:41 pm

BA has indeed said that the 777-200ER order will have no no bearing on future orders.

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Speaking to Flight International, BA commercial director Robert Boyle said the decision to order eight 777s for delivery from 2009 rather than Airbus A330s for its short-term requirement has no bearing on its longer-term needs. "The ease of assimilating up to eight aircraft into our existing 777 fleet swung it in Boeing's favour," he says.

For its long-term requirement, BA is evaluating all variants of the A350 XWB against all variants of the 787 "including the -10", as well as the 777-300ER, while the A380 is being pitched against the 747-8I. "We've had the responses to our RFP from the manufacturers, which will be iterated several times. We're now getting to the serious bit of the discussions," says Boyle. He expects the selections to be finalised in the second half of this year.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-begins-widebody-negotiations.html
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Fri May 18, 2007 9:56 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
BA did originally state whomever won the interim lift order between the 772ER and A333 would win the future lift order between the 787 and A350

The big problem in this original statement was that it wouldn't have made it an interim order. The choice of 4 plus 4 options would have dictated a major part of BA's fleet policy for the next 20 years. All us A netters would have lost months of joyful speculation.
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Sat May 19, 2007 9:04 am

I really hope that the bulk of the order will be for 787/748i aircraft. However I would not be suprised if there are a few 380s thrown in there
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Sat May 19, 2007 8:16 pm

The BA longhaul order is one that can go in any direction. In my opinion this order will be one of the toughest battles between Boeing and Airbus. I'm really anxious in seeing who will eventually claim the victory here. In any way good luck to BA, Boeing and Airbus.

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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Sun May 20, 2007 5:44 pm

I love these threads.

 Big grin

Suppose wait and see wouldn't fit in with the A.net crowd.

You all know my views on this matter, I won't repeat them again
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Sun May 20, 2007 9:54 pm

Quoting BA787 (Reply 7):
You all know my views on this matter,

I dont, what are they?  Wink
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Mon May 21, 2007 5:25 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 8):

I seem to remember you commented Big grin


Reply 42 onwards is my comments and the subsequent quotings Big grin
British Airways: "could Imagine 10-15 A380" (by Flying-tiger Apr 10 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Mon May 21, 2007 5:35 am

Ba has a 57 747s in their fleet.

The market is growing approxm 5% per year. I think BA don´t want to loose to much market share.

They have to add capasity to the worlds hubs in their network.

I don´t think they will replace all 744 with a380s. The 744s have a lot of live left in them.

Maybe half of them in the next 10 yrs, RR powered.
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Mon May 21, 2007 6:21 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 10):
Keesje

So Keesje's prediction is that the 57 747-400s will be replaced with up to 30 A380s, with the remainder being replaced by A350/787/748i (delete as appropriate)?

Not unlikely IMO.

[Edited 2007-05-20 23:32:12]
 
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Mon May 21, 2007 7:01 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 10):
The market is growing approxm 5% per year. I think BA don´t want to loose to much market share.

What will BA replace their A319, A320, and A321 with to capture this 5% growth in the market?
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RE: BA Will Order 50 New Planes By End Of 2007, Part 2

Mon May 21, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 12):



Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 12):
Quoting Keesje (Reply 10):
The market is growing approxm 5% per year. I think BA don´t want to loose to much market share.

What will BA replace their A319, A320, and A321 with to capture this 5% growth in the market?

I think we see a clear trend towards the bigger versions of NB aircraft being launched. No surprise Boeing is considering 2 types for the next generation and launched the 737-900ER increasing seatcount by 15%. The times of simply increasing frequencies seem to be over with landing rights, slot restrictions, environmental pressure and fuel prizes moving up the priority ladder.

Maybe Airbus will try to build a A322  Wink

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