Beaucaire
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Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 3:32 pm

Mr. Hunold indicated yesterday during the share-holder meeting in London,that the airline is still actively looking for additional acquisitions....
That would mean after Deutsche DB and LTU there are possible new buy-outs on the horizon. Any qualifed guesses ??
Sky Euope,Wizzair or an Italian carrier ?
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stylo777
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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 4:29 pm

on the German market only HHI and DE is possible, but both are very unlikely. I could think of HG, if Niki Lauda agrees...
 
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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 4:40 pm

He does not have to buy HG ,they own already a 24,9% satake and have a good co-operation.
I rather see them buying abroad (OK -Austria would be abroad but is not very likely ) -even a carrier with wide-bodies..now that they became a long-distance player through LTU.
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flyorski
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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 5:45 pm

What about Hamburg International......

Who owns them right now anyways?

I think that they already codeshare enough with HG.
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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 6:12 pm

Airt Berlin should withdraw 733 from service.
Last tuesday I flew BGY-TXL and TXL-BGY. I thought I would have flown A320s or 737-700/800 but.... both flight were operated by 737-300 which look quite old, even if in fact they aren't so old, but they look very old.....
 
stylo777
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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 7:04 pm

Quoting F.pier (Reply 4):
Airt Berlin should withdraw 733 from service.
Last tuesday I flew BGY-TXL and TXL-BGY. I thought I would have flown A320s or 737-700/800 but.... both flight were operated by 737-300 which look quite old, even if in fact they aren't so old, but they look very old....

these are the old DI planes and I suppose they will go on flying around for a while

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 2):
He does not have to buy HG ,they own already a 24,9% satake

didn't know that. thx.
 
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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 7:50 pm

SkyEurope operates 737s, is very strong in Central/Eastern Europe (where AB is weak) and is adding 4 aircraft to its Vienna base this winter (6 aircraft based then). together with AB and Niki they could be a threat to weakening OS in Vienna...

On the other side, York capital is a strong partner/shareholder of SkyEurope and it seems they finally managed to bring SkyEurope into safer waters.

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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 8:11 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 6):
SkyEurope operates 737s, is very strong in Central/Eastern Europe (where AB is weak) and is adding 4 aircraft to its Vienna base this winter (6 aircraft based then). together with AB and Niki they could be a thread to weakening OS in Vienna...

On the other side, York capital is a strong partner/shareholder of SkyEurope and it seems they finally managed to bring SkyEurope into safer waters.

To be honest I would be sad to see SkyEurope go, I love AirBerlin, but they and SkyEurope are two different service level. I do not consider AB a real LCC while SkyEurope gives superb service while still maintaining LCC prices. I love the reliability and German efficiency of AB, but on the other hand I get almost the same on SkyEurope for the fraction of the price, and that lunchbox does not deserve the extra dope they ask for. And the comfort of Sky's pre-seat selection system is unbeatable in the LCC world!
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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 8:53 pm

I'd say an interesting target would be Sterling, the (albeit distant) 4th largest LCC in Europe. Sterling are in knee-deep trouble (as always), and could indeed need the support of Air Berlin in the battle with SAS most notably. NB and AB have similar route maps and customer groups (a lot of leisure, but also significant lighter business travel). NB operates various 737's, although I think they've manage to cut it down to 737-700 and -800's now. But as for integration of NB into AB, that's another issue - however, strategically I think it's a decent option for AB. As for the price, they could probably buy NB for close to nothing right now..

Only flown AB once, LEJ-HER in July 2005, brillant service the good old charter style - love it.

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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sat May 19, 2007 9:09 pm

An alliance with the Spanish carrier Vueling, could be a great option.

Vueling is one of the most important low-cost airlines in South Europe and a partnership with the Deutsch carrier would be a great option to expand it's destinations.
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RE: Air Berlin Might Still Buy Another Airline...

Sun May 20, 2007 6:43 am

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 8):
I'd say an interesting target would be Sterling

And they are quite thin to Germany, with the exception of Dortmund and Berlin....and about 6 or so daily flights.
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