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2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 4:00 pm

According to Mr. Monson ( Boeing senior vice president for sales Africa and Middle East), Boeing will announce 2 agreements for 787 sales at the Paris Air Show.

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...sion=1&template_id=48&parent_id=28

"Two other agreements for Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner planes that are close to be finalised with an undisclosed Gulf airliner would be announced at the Paris air show, Monson said."


Airlines that come to mind and who have previously said they're expecting a decision soon on new aircraft purchases are Kuwait Airways, Qatar and the new airline of Ras-al-Khamein (is that correct?).
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 4:04 pm

Quoting Manni (Thread starter):
Airlines that come to mind and who have previously said they're expecting a decision soon on new aircraft purchases are Kuwait Airways, Qatar and the new airline of Ras-al-Khamein

I wouldn't be so quick to rule out EK.
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 4:11 pm

RAK Airways would be a good guess- they are currently searching 757-captains and are in start-up mode.
No major route-info availabe on their web-page other than some sheduled flights to Iran and India.

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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 4:20 pm

Is Oman still looking or did they firm up the A330 deal? And we know that RJ will lease 787s - have they placed a firm order with Boeing yet?
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 4:57 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 3):
we know that RJ will lease 787s - have they placed a firm order with Boeing yet?

Yes, RJ confirmed that a UFO order is theirs.
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 9:44 pm

I suppose GF might choose the 787 to replace their 767-300s, but I would expect them to add more A332s to do so on lease and then take the A350.

And with QR taking some 80 A350s, what do they need the 787 for? They will need to add capacity across the board just to try and stave off the EK juggernaut so going from A332s to A358s and A333s to A359s. Unless they want 8 787-3s to replace the A306 fleet, but that seems unlikely to me.
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 11:13 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
I wouldn't be so quick to rule out EK.

Hey Zvezda, do you know something we don't?  Wink

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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 11:17 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
I suppose GF might choose the 787 to replace their 767-300s, but I would expect them to add more A332s to do so on lease and then take the A350.

GF have already stated they will become "an all Airbus operator" to cut down on costs, etc.....so I highly doubt it will be them...

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
And with QR taking some 80 A350s, what do they need the 787 for?

....maybe a smaller plane than any A350's... Wink
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 11:22 pm

There are many possibilities.

Emirates
Kuwait
Saudi
Gulfair
etc etc etc
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 11:56 pm

Well the article seems to imply its not RJ or Alafco...... (doesn't Kuwait Airways usually get a few planes from Alafco)

so, my 2 cents...

QR will ID themselves as the UFO of 30x787 & 5x777F ordered on April 5th.
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon May 21, 2007 11:58 pm

Quoting EI321 (Reply 8):
There are many possibilities.

Emirates
Kuwait
Saudi
Gulfair
etc etc etc

Since SV didn't start braging and that they usually are late in ordering new aricraft.. I doubt it.
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 12:31 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):


Quoting Stitch,reply=5:
And with QR taking some 80 A350s, what do they need the 787 for?

...maybe a smaller plane than any A350's...  Wink

I'm not sure QR can afford to have something smaller then the A350, as they'll need to grow to survive in the shadow of EK.

So I think they want so many A350s because they want to significantly increase their capacity by going from the A330-200 to the A350-800 and the A330-300 to the A350-900 and then adding A350-1000's to supplement their 777-300ER fleet.
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 12:57 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
I'm not sure QR can afford to have something smaller then the A350, as they'll need to grow to survive in the shadow of EK.

...QR isn't like EK in that QR does have single-isle jets such as the A32X/A32X-LR..so for them, a smaller plane wouldn't be unusual....
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 1:00 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
And with QR taking some 80 A350s, what do they need the 787 for?

Did QR finally firm up their A350 order?  Confused

They would not want the 787 for their shorter less traveled routes?

As far as the topic... I would say one of them is going to be SV, EK, or QR. As for what another member stated... I know GF has stated they want to be an all Airbus carrier.
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 1:35 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
Quoting Manni (Thread starter):Airlines that come to mind and who have previously said they're expecting a decision soon on new aircraft purchases are Kuwait Airways, Qatar and the new airline of Ras-al-Khamein
I wouldn't be so quick to rule out EK.

Now it's unclear to me if the article means any 787 variant when they say 787-8, but if it's -8s, I would highly doubt EK (in reference to these "Arab" carriers (which doesn't mean that they won't announce 787s, but not the one's that were specified here).

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Tue May 22, 2007 1:37 am

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 13):
Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
And with QR taking some 80 A350s, what do they need the 787 for?

Did QR finally firm up their A350 order?

They have stated that they intend to sign at the Paris Airshow.
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 1:51 am

Saudia and Emirates are known to be expanding and replacing their fleets. Saudia is not going to miss out on the 787, they have 777 and are happy with them. EK will probably buy both the 787 and the A350, it just seems to be what they do.
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 1:53 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 16):
EK will probably buy both the 787 and the A350, it just seems to be what they do.

That was my original thought, although Emirates have said that they will not order both.
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 16):
Saudia is not going to miss out on the 787, they have 777 and are happy with them.

I am not very sure Saudia is happy with the 777. Sometimes, its too big for their routes they fly. The A332/787-sized jets would be perfect for their preferences. Maybe HiJazzey knows more about Saudia, but I would assume that the 787-sized planes are the right type for that airline.
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 1:55 am

I honestly do not get the need for all the attention by the various Arabian airlines out there. They remind me of a spolied child at a party that demands everyone stop what they are doing and watch them do their little dance routine. I get that publicity, especially free publicity, is good but they just seem to take it to another level.
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 18):
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 16):
Saudia is not going to miss out on the 787, they have 777 and are happy with them.

I am not very sure Saudia is happy with the 777. Sometimes, its too big for their routes they fly. The A332/787-sized jets would be perfect for their preferences.

Werent they originally intending to order A330s just before the 777 order was placed?
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 2:08 am

I hope MEA has some type of deal in this. Doubt it, but its still in my dreams.
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 3:19 am

I think Kuwait airways

and also we have new airline in kuwait that should start working end of this year it is name Kuwait National Airways

maybe they will have someting with boeing
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 4:11 am

how shocking it would be if Iran Air (or whatever they are called) buys the 787?
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 5:58 am

Perhaps one of the two maybe Emirates or Qatar.
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Tue May 22, 2007 8:44 am

Possible 787-10 launch?
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 9:32 am

Quoting KULatICT (Reply 23):
how shocking it would be if Iran Air (or whatever they are called) buys the 787?

Not terribly likely - or relevant since Iranians aren't 'Arabs'.
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 12:49 pm

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 21):
I hope MEA has some type of deal in this. Doubt it, but its still in my dreams.

MEA was one of the first airlines I thought of, too. I'm not really that knowledgeable on this particular subject, but are they due for a fleet upgrade any time soon? Aren't they still flying the A300 or A310?
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 1:00 pm

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 27):
MEA was one of the first airlines I thought of, too. I'm not really that knowledgeable on this particular subject, but are they due for a fleet upgrade any time soon? Aren't they still flying the A300 or A310?

MEA flies a fleet of A330s and A321s and have recently (december 2006) ordered more A330s. I doubt it very much that it is MEA that's being talked about.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
I wouldn't be so quick to rule out EK.

For an anouncement at the Paris Air Show or as one of the 2 'agreements' being talked about by Mr. Monson? I'd rule out EK as being one of these 2 talked about, not as a potential 787 customer (altough they could as easily opt for the A350XWB).
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 1:06 pm

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 27):
Aren't they still flying the A300 or A310?

Nope. They currently fly three A332s. Two are leased from ILFC and, I think, one was bought direct from Airbus. They also have three new A332s on order.

So, unlikely to be a 787 customer any time soon, I'd say.
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 2:39 pm

Quoting Manni (Reply 28):
MEA flies a fleet of A330s and A321s and have recently (december 2006) ordered more A330s. I doubt it very much that it is MEA that's being talked about.



Quoting PM (Reply 29):
Nope. They currently fly three A332s. Two are leased from ILFC and, I think, one was bought direct from Airbus. They also have three new A332s on order.

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure if they still flew Airbus aircraft or not since I don't know too much about the airline. Thanks for the help.  Smile
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 2:47 pm

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 25):
Possible 787-10 launch?

Yes, a 787-10 launch at Le Bourget is possible. Hopefully, Boeing have the MTOW up to about 560,000 lbs.
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 2:48 pm

Im thinking KU for sure...

maybe Saudi? or a new Iraqi Airways?
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 5:32 pm

Quoting CHI787ORD (Reply 32):
Im thinking KU for sure...

maybe Saudi? or a new Iraqi Airways?

How many frames would these carriers need. Would these be big orders?

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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Tue May 22, 2007 8:50 pm

Saudia & Kuwait Airways are my top 2 pics for the following reasons :

KU had mentioned in Feb that in June it will be placing an order for 34 aircraft and the B 788 seems to be the ideal replacement for their combined fleet of AB6s and A 310s which are 14 years old.

SV last month also mentioned that it will be ordering 60 aircraft soon and that the B 772ER is too big for its European routes therefore one cannot rule out a B 788 order here too.
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 8:56 pm

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 34):
SV last month also mentioned that it will be ordering 60 aircraft soon and that the B 772ER is too big for its European routes therefore one cannot rule out a B 788 order here too.

I think the 788 would be good for Saudi, and the fact that their 772's are not very old means that 2012 delivery should not be a problem.
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 9:31 pm

What about Oman Air? Could be in the running.....
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 11:04 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 31):
Yes, a 787-10 launch at Le Bourget is possible. Hopefully, Boeing have the MTOW up to about 560,000 lbs.

I am rather out of touch where the power plant suppliers are at for this segment. What is the latest?
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 11:40 pm

Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 37):
I am rather out of touch where the power plant suppliers are at for this segment. What is the latest?

The top end GE engine is the GEnx-1B75 at 75,000lbs thrust.

The top end RR engines are the Trent 1000-J and Trent 1000-K, both with 73,800lbs thrust.

This is sufficient to lift 540,000lbs, which is the MTOW of the 787-9 and what Boeing is saying the initial 787-10 is going to have for an MTOW.
 
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Tue May 22, 2007 11:56 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 38):
The top end GE engine is the GEnx-1B75 at 75,000lbs thrust

IIRC, wasn't the top end going to be around 80-8klbs thrust or is that just a possible theoretical number given the technology of GE's double-spool engine?
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Wed May 23, 2007 1:00 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 39):
IIRC, wasn't the top end going to be around 80-8klbs thrust or is that just a possible theoretical number given the technology of GE's double-spool engine?

The GEnx-1B75 is the most powerful engine in current design. I expect GE can take it to the nearside of 80,000lbs, which I am guessing should be enough for around 575,000lbs MTOW.

There is talk of a GEnx-3Axx series for the A350 with thrust ratings of 75,000 and 87,000lbs thrust, but I am also guessing that a GEnx-3A87 would require significant changes to the core and fan diameter.
 
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Wed May 23, 2007 1:34 am

So , has GE signed on yet for the A350 ? I was under the impression that they had not committed yet. What is going to power the A350-1000 or is that derivative still waiting for a clearly defined power plant?
 
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Wed May 23, 2007 1:45 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 40):

The GEnx-1B75 is the most powerful engine in current design. I expect GE can take it to the nearside of 80,000lbs, which I am guessing should be enough for around 575,000lbs MTOW.

..ok..thanks Stich, so my "ballpark" figures weren't too far off.. no 

Quoting Stitch (Reply 40):
There is talk of a GEnx-3Axx series for the A350 with thrust ratings of 75,000 and 87,000lbs thrust, but I am also guessing that a GEnx-3A87 would require significant changes to the core and fan diameter.

.....interesting.. scratchchin ...ostensibly, this basically all but rules them out for the A350-1000..

Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 41):
So , has GE signed on yet for the A350 ? I was under the impression that they had not committed yet. What is going to power the A350-1000 or is that derivative still waiting for a clearly defined power plant?

...they are basically in for the A350-8 and possibly the A350-9...but as stated above, because of thrust requirements (and because of the fact GE doesn't want the A350-10 to eat away at B777 sales), I wouldn't be surprised to see if GE balks at making an engine for the A350-10...

...also, IIRC, GE might go in for the A359 via the Engine Alliance (but don't quote me on that as I'm not 100% sure)....
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Wed May 23, 2007 7:59 am

Given the appetite Qatar, Etihad and Emirates have for airplanes nothing would surprise me. The established airlines like Saudia and Kuwait need new planes since their fleet are early 1990's vintage. What was Saudia thinking with Md-90's ?
 
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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Wed May 23, 2007 11:55 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 43):
What was Saudia thinking with Md-90's ?

They were given an offer they can't refuse  Wink

I would be shocked if Boeing aren't talking to Saudia. They are desperate for planes. Older planes have been retired (A300) or are in the process of being retired (747 classics), and so they are leasing a substantial number of A320s from various Turkish airlines to keep their network running.

They're looking mainly at narrowbodies for short/medium haul (I expect they're interested in a combination of A321 and A319, particularly the LR versions), but they'll also be looking at the 788 (to replace the business config 777s that will probably be converted to high density configuration).

They have been planning a fleet renewal for a while, but it is dragging on. The change in management and the selling of various subsidiaries are probably factors in it taking so long. But I think we might hear something by the time of the Paris Air Show.
 
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Thu May 24, 2007 2:34 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 36):
What about Oman Air? Could be in the running.....

Just ordered new A330's

Quoting BigJKU (Reply 19):
I honestly do not get the need for all the attention by the various Arabian airlines out there. They remind me of a spolied child at a party that demands everyone stop what they are doing and watch them do their little dance routine.

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Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:09 pm

Kuwait appear close to a decision if the following report is correct, it is a fair use excerpt from a subscriber service but also available via a yahoo or google search.

The report states that KU will take 12 x 787 from ALAFCO and 7 x A320 from them as well. Good to see more leasing placements, if true, and also a Mid-East carrier goeing with some NBs

By Tarek Al-Issawi

June 4 (Bloomberg) -- Kuwait Airways will buy 12 Boeing Dreamliner 787 passenger planes and seven Airbus A320 jets to upgrade its fleet, al-Watan reported, citing unidentified people familiar with the carrier's plans.

The national airline will buy the aircraft from Aviation Lease & Finance, a Kuwaiti company, and will take delivery of the A320s in 2009 and the 787s in 2010, the newspaper said.


Sources: http://www.alwatan.com.kw via http://www.bloomberg.com

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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:37 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 46):
The national airline will buy the aircraft from Aviation Lease & Finance,

"Buy"? Lease?! Either way, does that mean that these aren't new orders?
 
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Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:49 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 47):
"Buy"? Lease?! Either way, does that mean that these aren't new orders?

Seemingly not new 787 orders as KU owns part of ALAFCO IIRC, there are 7 x A320 options attached as well but as best I can make from the arabic report is that they will lease them. Here's a link to the article in Arabic.

http://www.alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?MgDid=508579&pageId=39

Translate at your own risk. I did!

Now with that said, there are several 787 orders due to be announced in the not to distant future, for quite a few frames too, we'll just have to wait and see what the airlines and Boeing have to say.  Wink

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RE: 2 'Arab' Carriers To Sign For 787s.

Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:50 pm

Quoting SNATH (Reply 6):
Hey Zvezda, do you know something we don't?

We all know that EK is about as predictable as one winning the lottery. I too would not rule EK....  eyebrow 

QR may still go with the 787, they did finally firm up their 772LR order for commonality sake... but then again the same could be said about the A350 order.

Very exciting times indeed...  eyepopping 
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