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Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 7:33 pm

Oh well....

After a devastating strike carried out by Danish SAS personnel recently, the Swedish cabin crew has now decided to follow suit, and join forces in forcing the airline out of business.

This airline is looking more and more doomed.

IMO the company should be liquidated, everyone should be fired, and those willing to continue working there could do so on new terms.

This is the 74th (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) SAS-strike in ten years!!!!!

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 7:42 pm

Do you know if SAS flights into and out of Kastrup will be affected this weekend as a follow on from strike action at ARN?
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 7:45 pm

will this affect my flight from CPH-OSL-EVE on the 14th of June, and back again on the 2nd of August?

Quoting Kevin777 (Thread starter):
This is the 74th (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) SAS-strike in ten years!!!!!

thats extraordinary!

Quoting Kevin777 (Thread starter):
IMO the company should be liquidated,

Don't agree to that, you can't liquidate SAS, that's our pride and glory (as Scandinavians)

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 7:58 pm

Pardon my ignorance... But why are they striking? My god it is amazing how different a country can be. Here in Singapore (SIA), a hint of industrial action caused such a BIG uproar and made the news headlines. And that happened twice in 1982 and 2004 only. And now we have SAS going on their 76th strike in 10 years? Do they want to keep their jobs and see the airline go under at the same time??
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 8:06 pm

Let the airline die and LH pick up the Euro routes and AY the longhauls. SAS crew can apply to FR and move to charming Hahn if they wish. Those people have no place in any decent airline.

Absolutely ridiculous.
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 8:13 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Don't agree to that, you can't liquidate SAS, that's our pride and glory (as Scandinavians)

The way to treat an entity that is supposedly of pride and glory, is not to strike like this. Is SAS that bad of an employer for this drastic measure to be taken? What do they want? Higher wages? Better hours?
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 8:14 pm

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 3):
But why are they striking?

The girl on the radio this morning was talking about lunch breaks! They are expected to fly all day without having time to go to the restaurant for lunch.

SAS has announced that all domestic flights in Sweden are cancelled on Friday 25.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 8:17 pm

Quoting Kevin777 (Thread starter):
This is the 74th (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) SAS-strike in ten years!!!!!

SAS is "proud" to be on the second place in the Europe-wide aviation strike hotlist. The number one is Alitalia...
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 8:32 pm

Quoting N272WA (Reply 1):
Do you know if SAS flights into and out of Kastrup will be affected this weekend as a follow on from strike action at ARN?

Danish / Norwegian flights shouldnøt be affected..... but let's see...

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Don't agree to that, you can't liquidate SAS, that's our pride and glory (as Scandinavians)

Indeed it is, and that's why I hate to see this time and time again! Making an excellent point:

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 5):
The way to treat an entity that is supposedly of pride and glory, is not to strike like this

When I say liquidate SAS I meant technically; just like for instance Sabena to SN Brussels back then. I'd hate to see LH take our European traffic and AY take our intercon!!!! GRRRRRR!!!!!  Smile

Quoting Treg (Reply 7):
SAS is "proud" to be on the second place in the Europe-wide aviation strike hotlist. The number one is Alitalia...

Maybe they could join forces? An all-striking airline with a fleet of DC-9's

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 8:56 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Don't agree to that, you can't liquidate SAS, that's our pride and glory (as Scandinavians)

Who's pride and glory? As a scandinavian there is nothing to be proud about the airline. A former state-governed airline behaving as if they were still run by the state. There is an attitude within the company that knows no boundaries - an airline is all about service to differentiate themselves. Yes, they do differentiate themselves when it comes to service - SAS the airline that strikes when it suits the employees. Maybe the airline could get a new short name. Strike, Always Strike.

The airline needs to be liquidated and rebuilt. Unless they now offer the most convenient time/price I would rather connect at LHR and AMS for European s/h than use SAS.

As the CEO says, something is very wrong about personnel that chose to ground an airline. The expected daily costs, SEK30m (not including goodwill, but then again, how much more goodwill can they possibly lose I do not know), should help the company break eve this year.  Yeah sure
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 9:05 pm

I hope SK pulls through. I've flown DY once OSL-ALF and unless they are WAY cheaper, I'll stick to SK.

Although I wish they would lover their prices to and from the US
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 9:39 pm

Quoting Kevin777 (Thread starter):
This is the 74th (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) SAS-strike in ten years!!!!!

Just read a statement by Mats Jansson. There have been 100 strikes in the last ten years, 73 of those have been illegal strikes in CPH.
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Thu May 24, 2007 10:59 pm

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
Let the airline die and LH pick up the Euro routes and AY the longhauls. SAS crew can apply to FR and move to charming Hahn if they wish. Those people have no place in any decent airline.

I agree partly, I wouldn't sell the longhauls to AY.. Wouldn't want the Icelandics to take it all over (AFAIK they still own 40% of AY), they have tried taking over SAS before but Swedish government didn't want to sell and NO and DK followed the SK line. I'd say that LH would be the better caretaker of the SAS "legacy" since beeing the big brother in Star Alliance   and let smaller companies like Malmö Aviation and City Airline take the regional routes, they have a much better trackrecord when it comes to cost effectiveness and market awareness and would probably do much better.

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 8):
IMO the company should be liquidated, everyone should be fired, and those willing to continue working there could do so on new terms.

I agree that it would make most sense at this moment. But it would take too much time to do and who would like to build a new company with mainly MD-80:s in their fleet (SK sweden has most of the MD:s flown by SAS). IMHO it's better to just start from scratch with newer RJ:s and closely connected to LH Regional. This would negate the need for their own MX base at ARN and instead be maintained by LH and with a fleet consiting of CRJ-1000 and/or E170 they could have higher frequencies and therefor better service. And the charter organization could just be shut down. Economically I think this would be better suiting the Swedish market.

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 12:19 am

Quoting Kevin777 (Thread starter):
IMO the company should be liquidated, everyone should be fired, and those willing to continue working there could do so on new terms.

So everytime the managmnet changes something they fire all people in order to get it through? I expeect this from other countires but not from Sweden and Danmark.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
Let the airline die and LH pick up the Euro routes and AY the longhauls. SAS crew can apply to FR and move to charming Hahn if they wish. Those people have no place in any decent airline.



To be honest, they will not let it die. Before selling everything to LH and AY I am pretty sure that somebody else will step up in these countries and buy it. Maybe Norway?

Quoting SAS330GOT (Reply 12):
I'd say that LH would be the better caretaker of the SAS "legacy" since beeing the big brother in Star Alliance

I believe that the EU would not allow it and honestly I do not belive that LH has the money to buy SK.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 12:24 am

I forgot to mention I am against this strike!  Smile

A illegal strike is never worth it I just question the ideas of some fellow Nordic men Big grin
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 12:31 am

Quoting SAS330GOT (Reply 12):

I agree partly, I wouldn't sell the longhauls to AY.. Wouldn't want the Icelandics to take it all over (AFAIK they still own 40% of AY)


Wow, they don't own 40% of Finnair, it's closer to 20%... foreigners own totally some 30% of the shares, Finnish state has 56% and even the current Center-Right government wants to keep the majority.

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 12:52 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Don't agree to that, you can't liquidate SAS, that's our pride and glory (as Scandinavians)

Well, I'm certainly not proud of SAS, and there is certainly not much glory about the company.at the time being. Neither do I have the need to be proud of a company of nationalistic reasons. I kinda of agree with Kevin that the solution is what the cabin crew really deserves. On the other hand, seen from a rational economic point of view, I'm not sure if it would help anything.

I tend to agree with some of the former posts, that something could be gained with a split between LH and AY. However, just as many reasons oppose this. The cabin crew would most likely be the same on a large proportion of the routes, and SAS is already pretty generous, so the conditions for the employees would not improve. I don't believe in many base changes, as the current routes must be the most viable market wise. Of course German and Finnish routes could see a base change, and some routes would be withdrawn for stratetic purposes (less longhaul, hence less feeding).

I would hate to see this, as SAS is a pretty valuable asset - after all - to us living in the Öresund region and CPH. Although I never fly SK personally due to their pricing policy, it is certainly an economic catalysator in the region together with the airport. With a LH takeover, I would certainly expect a decrease in the number of passengers out of CPH.

So, what to do? Well, the management have effectuated a pretty clear strategy over the last five years, and it has been rather succesfull. Unfortunately the employees still complain over lunch breaks that are longer than typical lunch breaks in Denmark, and they are complaining over long working hours, even though their union contract implies less working hours than the average. Nobody force these people to work in the industry. With the current job situation in the region, it shouldn't be hard for them to find another job, but apparently they - after all - weigh their job at SAS better than the alternative, which makes the strikes seem rather childish to me.

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 13):

So everytime the managmnet changes something they fire all people in order to get it through? I expeect this from other countires but not from Sweden and Danmark.

It can be necessary to fire people who does not or will not comply with company policy. The Scandinavian way is to sort things out and make compromises, but viability comes first. The extreme approach here is not made by the management to threat with firings, but from the employees destroying the company by illegal strikes. After all, a firing with the current labor market situation with virtually no unemployment, isn't really a big disaster for an employee unsatisfied with his/her employer.
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 1:01 am

Quoting N272WA (Reply 1):
Do you know if SAS flights into and out of Kastrup will be affected this weekend as a follow on from strike action at ARN?

No, except 50% of the flights CPH-ARN

Quoting N272WA (Reply 1):
will this affect my flight from CPH-OSL-EVE on the 14th of June, and back again on the 2nd of August?

First off all will the strike be over by then (A typical SAS strike is 1, 2 or 3 days) and it would anyway not be affected as it is ONLY SAS Sweden that will be affected. SAS Denmark, SAS Norway and SAS International (IC), will operate as normal!
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
SAS, that's our pride and glory (as Scandinavians)

I think it's quite embarrasing to be honnest.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 4:03 am

Quoting CPH757 (Reply 16):
After all, a firing with the current labor market situation with virtually no unemployment, isn't really a big disaster for an employee unsatisfied with his/her employer.

Does this apply for Sweden only or for Danmark too? Sorry I am not familiar with the unemployment situation currently.  Smile
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 5:13 am

For Sweden the unemployment rate of April was between 4.5% (www.scb.se). For Denmark it was 3.9% for March (www.dst.dk). Usually you characterize a labour market with unemployment rates less than 5% as having "full employment", as the bottom 5% points are regarded as natural unemployment or structural unemployment, which (very simplified) is people who are in the proces of changing jobs.
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 5:16 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 13):
I believe that the EU would not allow it and honestly I do not belive that LH has the money to buy SK

Well.. Continuing like this there will be little to sell anyway and even less to pay for.. I sincerely think that LH does have the money though. I know for a fact that the Islandics offered about 7 billion SEK (about 1 billion dollars) for SAS Sweden (or atleast part of it) and got turned down and therefor turned to Finnair instead. And with the way SAS have been doing lately it might even be a pretty good deal, if you can get rid of the rotten stuff within the company.. The brand itself is little worth today. With the two biggest customers (Ericsson & Electrolux) threatens to stop flying SAS (probably will).. IIRC the Ericsson contract is worth about 75 million SEK per year (about 9 million dollars) and the Electrolux about half that. That will be a huge loss for SAS and if those companies do that many more will follow suit. But with a slight makeover the trust in the company and the brand can be regained. And changing to a different owner can IMO be healthy in this situation. Even though I do agree that it will be hard on swedes, me included, to have their jewel taken over bu "zie germans" but it will probably sink in anyway. But that's just me..

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 5:45 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
you can't liquidate SAS, that's our pride and glory (as Scandinavians

Once maybe, not anymore......  ashamed 

I like that we in Scandinavia have our own airline, but nowadays its just plain ridiculous.

These striking kids screaming and yelling about extra lunch brakes and travel time to their jobs, while their company is fighting for its very existence, it just makes no sense!

In the old days it was an honour to work at SK, nowadays i would probably not hire an ex SK employee, simply because having worked at the "SK bubble" means that you have not worked in the real world.



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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 5:45 am

So Icelanders were after SAS Sweden, interesting, I didn't know that.

But isn't far too early to talk about slaughtering SAS, I thought they were coming back on tracks already.
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 6:01 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 13):
Quoting Kevin777 (Thread starter):
IMO the company should be liquidated, everyone should be fired, and those willing to continue working there could do so on new terms.

So everytime the managmnet changes something they fire all people in order to get it through? I expeect this from other countires but not from Sweden and Danmark.

Well, no, but if the alternative is, that everytime the management changes something, everyone goes on strike, then yes indeed.

Quoting Andaman (Reply 23):
So Icelanders were after SAS Sweden, interesting, I didn't know that.

Me neither. My God they must have more Russian mafia-money up there than I thought..  duck  And why these Scandinavian airlines?? Sterling has been an economic disaster for them (which they will never admit), and SAS doesn't look like a much better investment... Oh yes, FlyMe, let's not forget..

Quoting Andaman (Reply 23):
But isn't far too early to talk about slaughtering SAS, I thought they were coming back on tracks already.

They were indeed, and that's what's so bloody annoying!!!! Everytime things just turn a tiny bit better for the airline, the crew goes on strike demanding wages as if we were living in the 1960's aviation industry.

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 6:03 am

Well, it has been said that say will be gone within 2-3 years for the last 20 years and still nothing has happened. And overall, despite the strike, they have improved alot recently and gibe them a few years I they will be where they should be!
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 6:05 am

Quoting Andaman (Reply 23):

They were coming back, but their profit are vaporising because of strikes, the CEO of SK said yesterday that SK needs 3 billion in the bank to renew their fleet.

He said that SK needs to purchase new aircrafts now rather than later and they were looking at spending 30 billion DKR to that purpose.

But all that dont really matter as long as the babies are on strike.  sigh 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 8:31 am

Quoting Basefly (Reply 22):
These striking kids screaming and yelling about extra lunch breaks and travel time to their jobs, while their company is fighting for its very existence, it just makes no sense!

Sounds much like BA in the 1970s and 80s (and earlier) when they were government-owned. Although during that period strikes were common in most UK industries.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 9:00 am

Quoting Agill (Reply 18):
I think it's quite embarrasing to be honnest.

Agree, however it is the scandinavian airline. We can't just liquidate it like that...

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 8:11 pm

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 24):
Well, no, but if the alternative is, that everytime the management changes something, everyone goes on strike, then yes indeed.

Yes you are correct. If they strike everytime it is not even worth running this business.


Is SK Sweden for sale or are we talking about the total SAS?
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 8:32 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 29):
Is SK Sweden for sale or are we talking about the total SAS?

Neither of the are for sale, but there was suggestion from the swedish government that they consider selling their 21% share of the SAS Group, but it seems like the whole process was put on hold as Norway or Denmark don't seem to e too eager selling their shares
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 30):

Could Danmark and Norway buy the Swedish stakes?

Or would they go on strike again? Big grin  duck 
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 9:00 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 31):
Could Danmark and Norway buy the Swedish stakes?

Yes, but the Swedes won't sell to them and neither of the countries would sell their shares if not all of them do it, which I can't see happening for a long-long time
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 30):

Actually the Danish government said that they would sell if the swedes would.

The Norwegians however said that they would not sell, in fact they would consider buying the Swedish and danish parts of SK.

That prompted the Danes and Swedes not to sell, fearing of course total Norwegian control of SK.

Lord knows they have enough of  dollarsign  to spend
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 9:05 pm

So the danger is that they could go really down because neither of them is willing to sell their shares in order to become a solid company.

Could they split actually in 3 separate company? Isn´t that a possible solution?
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 9:46 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 34):

It already is actually it split in 4 i believe, SKDK. SKSE, SKNO and SKINT, and on top of that a bunch of small ground based companies ie Ground handling and such.
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 10:53 pm

SAS Sweden will strike on Saturday too. This is not good for SAS. Imagine how much money they will lose and they are loosing more and more passengers for every strike.
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 10:57 pm

Quoting Basefly (Reply 35):

Can one of these groups declare independency from the others because they are fed up with all those strikes?
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 11:25 pm

ARN is covered in abandoned SAS aircraft today. Here is a view of the deicing pan M at 1330.


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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Fri May 25, 2007 11:56 pm

Wonder how many SAS aircraft is grounded at ARN. Count 6aircraft on the picture
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 12:09 am

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 38):
ARN is covered in abandoned SAS aircraft today. Here is a view of the deicing pan M at 1330.

My God that's such a sad sight. You might as well just burn 100-Euro notes.

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 12:25 am

Quoting Kevin777 (Thread starter):
This is the 74th (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) SAS-strike in ten years!!!!!

Wow that's crazy, I thought AZ would take that cake for sure.

It's a sad day for the Nordic skies. With all of the mess that this has created I wonder if it would not be better to liquidate and start again? I'm sure the bulk of employees would either sign on with the new SAS under different terms or get poached by EY, EK and QR.

As for capacity a number of European carriers and LCC would easily fll the void in the short term.

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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 12:58 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 37):
Can one of these groups declare independency from the others because they are fed up with all those strikes?

No!

All the different groups (legal entities) are owned by the SAS Group
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 1:30 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 42):
No!All the different groups (legal entities) are owned by the SAS Group

Wich is in turn owned by the three governments split IIRC SE ca.21% DK & NO ca.14% each.

Guess why nothing is working. The three companies doesn't even share computerapps so sharing information is really hard. And on top of that the sales deprtments have different agendas and work in totally different ways. This is the perfect example of how you try to make things easier and end up doing everything harder. Last year we had the struggle when the pilots were to be employed in the separate national company for optimizing and all hell broke loose, I don't remember what happened at last but I know there were some disgrunteled pilots.. But I guess they will strike as soon as their agreement is up for negotiation. Maybe in 2 years or so..

To make things even more interresting the fleet is also divided between the four companies although SKINT doesn't "own" their aircraft they lease them from SAS denmark (They "own" all the Airbus aircraft in the SAS fleet) and fly them from CPH/ARN with mainly danish pilots and swedish cabincrew.. But, IIRC all aircraft are owned by the SAS group and in turn leased to the national companies who in some cases subleases them to other companies, as in the SASINT case and for charteroperators. And aircraft not needed i SAS is shipped over to Spanair and/or Blue1. Not really optimal in my eyes.. But that's a bit offtopic so I'll just leave it..
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 2:01 am

Well all my confidence in ,SK that remained (very little) is now gone.
I have made two long hauls with them in the past and that was two to many.
I fly long hauls regularly and have so far not been on a carrier that provides near as low service as SK.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 2:19 am

Some Blue1 boss was interviewed on Finnish tv and he warned that the situation in Sweden looks complicated - so there is a possibility the strike will last more than few days?
They also interviewed the flight attendants outside Arlanda, they were spreading flyers saying "Would you like to fly with tired & hungry cabin grew?"
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 4:49 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 37):

As stated above unfortunately not, however it would make any potential sale of the individual parts much easier for the SAS group, and in my humble opinion we are getting closer to that every day now.

I am sure that both the management at LH and AY maybe even BA, is following these developments very closely, and have every intention to snap up any market share possible, and i honestly dont think they care if it means the demise of SK.
757/777-A340/A380, Love them.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 6:28 am

Quoting Andaman (Reply 45):
Some Blue1 boss was interviewed on Finnish tv and he warned that the situation in Sweden looks complicated - so there is a possibility the strike will last more than few days?
They also interviewed the flight attendants outside Arlanda, they were spreading flyers saying "Would you like to fly with tired & hungry cabin grew?"

Yes it´s very complicated and the parts seems very far from reaching some kind of deal. The strike is not about money and it´s a legal strike. We don´t have so much strikes in Sweden at any kind so it´s serious.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 6:40 am

Quoting Andaman (Reply 45):
They also interviewed the flight attendants outside Arlanda, they were spreading flyers saying "Would you like to fly with tired & hungry cabin grew?"

Honestly I would tell them that " I do not give a f*** about them. Get back to work! "  yuck 
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! SAS Crew On Strike Tomorrow

Sat May 26, 2007 8:20 am

In the past SK was a rare example of a relatively successful multi-national airline. Others like Air Afrique, East African Airways (Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda) and MSA (Malaysia-Singapore Airlines prior to splitting into MH and SQ), are long gone.

I wonder whether it might make sense for SK to split into separate Danish, Norwegian and Swedish carriers and operate independently (as they did originally if you go back far enough). They could still cooperate and coordinate schedules (e.g. all 3 could be Star Alliance members). But if they were totally separate companies with their own managements it might reduce some of the labour disputes between the various divisions of the current single company.

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