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All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Fri May 25, 2007 12:04 pm

Just was reading through some DOT dockets and all of the major airlines seem to have DC offices as the address of a VP of Government regulations or a job like that....Are these VPs all based in DC, or in DC and the airlines' hub cities or what?

And how big are these offices in DC? I imagine they are pretty small...But they probably handle all government regulatory matters?

Any information is appreciated!
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Fri May 25, 2007 12:48 pm

Most businesses under heavy federal regulation, will have an office in Washington D.C.
At times, it is nothing more than their legal staff.
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Fri May 25, 2007 12:50 pm

In most cases I believe that they are legal firms representing the airlines, or something of that matter. I could however be way off of course. If I am please feel free to explain.


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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Fri May 25, 2007 1:09 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
all of the major airlines seem to have DC offices

Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Fri May 25, 2007 1:10 pm

In SOME cases they are just law firms, but in most cases they are an actual airline office staffed by legal and marketing personnel.

As has been mentioned, pretty much every major US corporation has an office in DC, staffed with at least a few VPs in government affairs and a slew of lawyers and lobbyists.

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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:56 pm

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 4):
In SOME cases they are just law firms, but in most cases they are an actual airline office staffed by legal and marketing personnel.

Any idea how large these offices in DC are for the major airlines?
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:47 pm

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

AF has offices in DC at : 1120 Connecticut Av. - NW
 
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:13 pm

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 6):
AF has offices in DC at : 1120 Connecticut Av. - NW

Japan Airlines: Government Affairs Office (not positive about address but appears to be 1050 Connecticut Ave NW)
Northwest Airlines, Inc - 901 15th St. NW #310
Lufthansa German Airlines - 1130 Connecticut Av, NW
China Airlines - 1730 K St. NW #240
ANA - 1101 16th St, NW
Malyasia Airlines 1667 K St. NW
Singapore Airlines 1050 17th St NW #550
Royal Jordanian Airline 1660 L St NW
Taca Airlines 1776 G St NW # 103
Saudi Arabian Airline 2600 Virginia Ave NW # 903
Air India: Executive Office 1612 K St NW
Aeroflot Russian International Airlines 1620 I St NW
American Airlines Inc 1700 Jefferson Davis Hwy, Arlington, VA
(And I didn't realize that WN served IAD, but they have an office that based on the address appears to be at the airport)

(Some of these may be CTOs but the majority of the airlines listed have CTOs or other "service" addresses pop up for the DC area)
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:44 pm

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

Look at Reply 7....
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:25 am

Southwest Airlines Governmental Affairs
1250 I St NW
Washington, DC 20005

And yes, they do serve IAD
 
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:46 am

CX doesn't have a office in DC. but for some reason, they got an office in Fort lauderdale, FL
interesting...
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting BNAtraveler (Reply 9):
Southwest Airlines Governmental Affairs
1250 I St NW
Washington, DC 20005

And yes, they do serve IAD

While I don't wish to hijack this thread into a "where WN should serve next" hopefully this office will work on getting some slots into DCA and LGA in the future
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:59 am

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:04 am

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 7):
And I didn't realize that WN served IAD

I think it has been over a year at this point.
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:15 am

Quoting BNAtraveler (Reply 9):
And yes, they do serve IAD



Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
I think it has been over a year at this point.

Hmm... Well that shows you how much attention I pay to WN! Thanks for the heads up/correction.

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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:11 am

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

The only one I'm not sure of is LA, the rest certainlt do. BA, AF, and TACA have rather large ticket offices downtown, but at different addresses than the lobbyist offices.

I have been through a number of these offices, and dozens of others like them. (We frequently do work for many of the property owners and/or property management firms) The leased offices are basically just reserved space for when needed. Even for VPs, the accomodations are not high-end, just a work location with an expensive desk and comfortable chair. The staffing varies among airlines, but most of the year they only have a couple of people (one only has a part-time admin assistant visit twice a week). When an issue gets hot on Capitol Hill, the offices pop into action and typically crowd about 15 people into a 6-room office, a conference room, and a few temporary partitions. The rest of the staff works out of temporary space at one of the many legal offices or lobbying firms downtown. (Now those spaces are nice!)

This might seem like a waste of funds when cheap(er) real estate is available a little furhter out, but in DC law is everything. The legal couriers frequently only serve downtown DC, and if you find in the 9am hearing that you need to file (or modify) an opinion by 1pm, you can't afford to get stuck in traffic for an hour. You've got to finish it at 12:15 and hand it to a courier who will have it on the Hill in 15 minutes.

Only airlines without any desire to fly in the western hemisphere might not want a lobbying representative in Washington. Filing opinions is the responsibility of the airlines if they want their voice to be heard in legal decisions.
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:29 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
I think it has been over a year at this point.

Not quite..they just started this spring.

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 14):
Hmm... Well that shows you how much attention I pay to WN! Thanks for the heads up/correction.

Not to worry...It's only 3 frames, for now focusing on connector flights to DAL
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RE: All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?

Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:35 am

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 10):
CX doesn't have a office in DC. but for some reason, they got an office in Fort lauderdale, FL
interesting...

Latin American cargo sales. As with DC, a lot of airlines have offices in Miami/Lauderdale, even if they don't fly there, to deal with cargo sales to Latin America. Most of these offices don't have more than 3-4 people.
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