tomascubero
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Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Sun May 27, 2007 2:55 pm

Hi Guys,

Well I don't have the stats but I am sure this is the worst SJO has ever experienced in the last 3-4 years or even more.

All incoming flights have been diverted and as a result cancelled for tonight, leaving possibly over 2000 stranded.

Here is the list of the current status of all affected flights:

Copa 403 (E190) PTY-SJO: Flew PTY-SJO, diverted to PTY and is currently scheduled to land at SJO tomorrow morning (27th) at 6:30am

Continental 1796 (B738) EWR-SJO: Flew EWR-SJO, diverted to LIR and is currently scheduled to land at SJO tonight (26th) at 11:40pm UPDATE: Was just heared on CENAMER to climb and maintain FL290 after trying to approach at SJO, diversion airport is PTY and flight is cancelled until further notice.

American 2167 (B752) DFW-SJO: Flew DFW-SJO, diverted to MGA (Not Sure!) and there is no further information about its next attemped arrival at SJO

Continental 1499 (B738) IAH-SJO: Flew IAH-SJO, diverted to MGA and is currently scheduled to land at SJO tomorrow (27th) at 12:08am UPDATE: Flight also tried to approach SJO without success and has diverted, airport unknown at this time.

American 2141 (A300) MIA-SJO: Flew MIA-SJO, diverted to PTY and listen to this, fueled up in PTY, left PTY for SJO around 2 hours later and after two missed apps, diverted back to MIA! This is due to the fact that there were no hotel rooms available in PTY for the passengers.

Delta 247 (B752) ATL-SJO: Flew ATL-SJO, diverted to LIR and is currently scheduled to land at SJO tomorrow (27th) at 12:10am

Martinair 645 (A320) MIA-SJO: Flew MIA-SJO, diverted to MGA, flew MGA-SJO and is currently trying an approach to SJO after holding over PARZA for 30 minutes. UPDATE: Just barely made it at 11:36pm local time, landed.

Copa 795 (B73G) PTY-SJO: Flew PTY-SJO after leaving PTY around 3.5 hours on purpose and upon trying the APP to SJO, was notified via ACARS to proceed direct to San Pedro Sula (SAP) (which is its next destination after SJO) since the personnel at SJO had left!

Lacsa 623 (A321) SAL-SJO: Was completely cancelled and never left SAL for SJO, no word on its scheduled time for arrival here.

Mexicana 387 (A320) MEX-SJO: Was the only lucky flight which could get in with minor problems, landed at 10:25pm local time.

JOS (DHL) 214 (B72F) PTY-SJO: Is currently flying direct to La Aurora VOR (GUA) after deciding not to try the approach at SJO.

UPS 350 (B752) MIA-SJO: Currently cancelled at MIA due to WX at SJO.

FWL 123 (B763) MIA-SJO: Currently cancelled without further notice of replacement flight due to WX at SJO.

Still there are several flights as I mentioned above which are going to try to get in soon and I'll keep you guys updated, the current metar shows:

MROC 270520Z 20004KT 0500 -RA FG VV001 20/20 A3003 TEMPO 2000

Tower and Radar say the condtions are not expected to improve though there is a slight rainfall now and they say it might help a little bit.

Keep your eyes close as I will be updating this post regularly in the next hours!

Regards,
Tomas.

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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Sun May 27, 2007 10:44 pm

Quoting Tomascubero (Thread starter):
American 2167 (B752) DFW-SJO: Flew DFW-SJO, diverted to MGA (Not Sure!) and there is no further information about its next attemped arrival at SJO

He's departed MGA, diverted over to MIA and cancelled. psgrs being protected on next avail flights.
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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Mon May 28, 2007 1:38 am

What is the cause of all the CXL flights? Did I miss something?
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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Mon May 28, 2007 2:28 am

Quoting Tomascubero (Thread starter):
MROC 270520Z 20004KT 0500 -RA FG VV001 20/20 A3003 TEMPO 2000

That metar means vertical visibility is only 100 feet, so the cancellations are due to weather.
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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Mon May 28, 2007 5:05 am

Not having a CATIII ILS doesn't help either. I wonder when Alterra and CETAC will finally look into acquiring a CATIII ILS to at least allow landings at lower minimums, but given the bureaucracy asociated with that, it's probably not gonna happen.

This fog is somewhat unusual for this time of year (late spring). The fog is more common to see during mid-autumn (October-November).
 
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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Tue May 29, 2007 4:24 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4):
Not having a CATIII ILS doesn't help either. I wonder when Alterra and CETAC will finally look into acquiring a CATIII ILS to at least allow landings at lower minimums, but given the bureaucracy asociated with that, it's probably not gonna happen.

Personally I think the high amount of upslope in the touchdown zone of runway 05 has more to do with that.
 
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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Tue May 29, 2007 4:45 am

Quoting 76er (Reply 5):
Personally I think the high amount of upslope in the touchdown zone of runway 05 has more to do with that.

You mean RW07, right? And what's that with the TDZ in the area? From seeing the runway, I don't see any high slopes on the runway, or at least not as high as you say, but that may be just the optical illusion from standing always near the RW25 threshold.
 
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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Tue May 29, 2007 5:36 am

PTY now a days isn't a good place to send SJO divertions.
For some reason, for months now, there hasn't been enough rooms available in Panama City and vicinity.
When it comes to hotel rooms if a Fr, Sa, or Su night divertion; MGA should do a better job taking the passengers than PTY.
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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Tue May 29, 2007 6:02 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 6):
You mean RW07, right?

Oops, sorry. Haven't been to SJO in a while. As for the upslope, it's mainly present in the first few hundred meters, in other words: the touchdown zone. Exactly where you don't want it. We always used to brief each other about this in preperation for the approach, requiring a much more agressive flare technique to avoid the typical 'carrier landing'. Autopilots can't see this sort of thing. Most of them flare at the same rate, no matter how steep the hill up ahead is.
 
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RE: Mayhem In SJO Tonight, Over 10 Flights Cancelled!

Wed May 30, 2007 12:18 am

And chaos continues...

Last night's MP flight diverted to MGA, and is now is SAL.

The pax will not be enjoying this one...

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