hardiwv
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RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 5:33 am

As mentioned before, now it is confirmed, RG (which now is owned by GOL) will receive the following aircraft in 2007: 12 x B 767-300 ER 35 (C)/190(Y) pax and 9 x B737-800 175 pax.

PP-VPV Serie 24086 B767-300ER (CF6-80AC2B6F) will be the first one to be delivered in June/07 and will be used to operate RG/GOL's newest intercontinental route GIG-FRA daily nonstop.

==12 x B767-300 ER are as follows==

1 PP-VPV EuroAtlantic

2 PR-VAA AWAS

3 PR-VAB AWAS

4 PR-VAC Automatic

5 PR-VAD GECAS

6 PR-VAE ILFC

7 PR-VAF Guggenheim

8 PR-VAG AWAS

9 PR-VAH GECAS

10 PR-VAI GECAS

11 PR-VAJ AerCap

12 PR-VAK AerCap

The origin will be diverse: , Malev, Air Canada, Air China, LAN, etc.

==8 x B737-800 are as follows==

1 PR-VBA 29916 B737-800 Aircastle Winglet

2 PR-VBB 29917 B737-800 Aircastle Winglet

3 PR-VBC 29918 B737-800 Aircastle Winglet

4 PR-VBD 29919 B737-800 Aircastle Winglet

5 PR-VBE 29920 B737-800 Aircastle Winglet

6 PR-VBF 28403 B737-800 GECAS

7 PR-VBG 29103 B737-800 GECAS

8 PR-VBH 28578 B737-800 GECAS

9 PR-VBI 28575 B737-800 GECAS

In addition to GIG-FRA, RG/GOL will also start GRU-BOG daily B737-800 and GRU-CCS 6 x week B737-800, both to be operated with GOL aircraft and GOL crew and pilots.

Rgs,
 
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Tue May 29, 2007 5:54 am

The serial numbers for the 767 are:

1 PP-VPV 24086

2 PR-VAA 27909

3 PR-VAB 27477

4 PR-VAC 27048

5 PR-VAD 26204

6 PR-VAE 27619

7 PR-VAF 25132

8 PR-VAG 27376

9 PR-VAH 25208

10 PR-VAI 25221

11 PR-VAJ 24999

12 PR-VAK 24947
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 5:58 am

Can't wait to see them back in Miami. Any word on if it will be MIA-GIG or MIA-GRU?
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 6:01 am

Its amazing that RG/GOL assembed a fleet of twelve 763ER aircraft so quickly........so often we hear about the limited availability of widebody aircraft on the second hand/leasing market.
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 6:06 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 3):
so often we hear about the limited availability of widebody aircraft on the second hand/leasing market.

A checkbook can often take care of that  Wink
 
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Tue May 29, 2007 6:13 am

Something is not right here, MSN27048 is MALEV's HA-LHA and it is a 767-27GER, so this means they are getting a mixed fleet of 767's? -200ER's and -300ER's? I guess the need puts everything aside, it is still amazing how the second hand wide-body market is buzzing Big grin
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Tue May 29, 2007 6:13 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 3):
ts amazing that RG/GOL assembed a fleet of twelve 763ER aircraft so quickly...

I assume GOL had to pay the price for being in such a hurry. Rumour has it that RG is not the only one operating 767 in the future... The eternal argument that a LCC should have standardised fleet doesn't apply anymore, I guess.
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 6:32 am

Great to see them get some planes, however talk about a bastard fleet.

A mix of PW and GE aircraft, both 4 door and 6 door versions, different max take off weights, and I'm sure other differences including avionics etc..

I hope RG/GOL atleast manages to configure the aircraft somewhat similarly so that the customer can enjoy a standardized product across the 767 fleet.
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 6:33 am

Quoting PEET7G (Reply 5):

Only MSN 27048 is a 762 - the rest of the batch are 763. I wouldn't be too surprised if Varig actually brought additional wide bodies in the near future.

Cheers!

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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 6:38 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 7):
Great to see them get some planes, however talk about a bastard fleet.

Bastard fleet! LOL  laughing 

Quoting PEET7G (Reply 5):
767's? -200ER's and -300ER's

I guess they took what they could. I see only one 200ER, isn't it?
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 10:22 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
PP-VPV Serie 24086 B767-300ER (CF6-80AC2B6F) will be the first one to be delivered in June/07 and will be used to operate RG/GOL's newest intercontinental route GIG-FRA daily nonstop.

Anyone know when will the rest of the 767's and 738's arrive?

Also, I noticed that RG has stopped flying to VIX again, can anyone confirm if this is temporary or if G3 will exclusively serve the route now.

Rgs,

Neo
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 5:05 pm

Quoting PEET7G (Reply 5):
Something is not right here, MSN27048 is MALEV's HA-LHA and it is a 767-27GER, so this means they are getting a mixed fleet of 767's? -200ER's and -300ER's?

Out of the 12 x B767: 11 x B767-300ER and 1 x B767-200.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 4):
A checkbook can often take care of that

GOL has the cash for it.

Quoting Neo (Reply 10):
Anyone know when will the rest of the 767's and 738's arrive?

All the B738 will arrive until the end of 2007, while 7 x B767 will arrive until the end of 2007 and the balance (5 x B767) will arrive in the first quarter of 2008. RG (GOL) is now rushing to resume its intercontinental operations.

There will be fierce long-haul competition in Brazil with RG back in shape. TAM and other foreign carriers have expanded considerably in Brazil, but now RG (GOL) wants its market back.

Rgs,
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 5:35 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 3):
Its amazing that RG/GOL assembed a fleet of twelve 763ER aircraft so quickly........so often we hear about the limited availability of widebody aircraft on the second hand/leasing market.

767s are probably not the most-demanded planes. Some come from CA, which are probably replaced by those A332s they are getting the whole time. Used A330/340s or 777s would be way harder to get.
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 5:42 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 12):
767s are probably not the most-demanded planes

Still, giving current market demand it is indeed very difficult to find widebodies in the market. What GOL did was just amazing and you need plenty of cash available and credibility in the market.

Here is the list of future RG (GOL) B767s and their origin:

1 PP-VPV 24086 - (parked in GIG)

2 PR-VAA 27909 - Air China B-2495

3 PR-VAB 27477 - Air China B-2497

4 PR-VAC 27048 - Malev - 767-200ER HA-LHA

5 PR-VAD 26204 - XL Airways - G-VKNH

6 PR-VAE 27619 - bmi PH-MCV

7 PR-VAF 25132 - LAN CC-CIO

8 PR-VAG 27376 - Alitalia I-DEIB

9 PR-VAH 25208 - El Al 4X-EAJ

10 PR-VAI 25221 - Air Madagascar 5R-MFF

11 PR-VAJ 24999 - Air Canada C-GHPD

12 PR-VAK 24947 - Air Canada C-GGMX

Many happy landings to RG/GOL!

Rgs,
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 6:54 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 13):
Still, giving current market demand it is indeed very difficult to find widebodies in the market. What GOL did was just amazing and you need plenty of cash available and credibility in the market.

Not with 767s. There are a lot of them stored in some deserts, including several -300ER versions. The market will probably be flooded with 767s when the 787 delivery starts.
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 8:42 pm

How old are these planes.

I see they bought an El Al 767 arent they all like 25 years old?

Can someone tell me what is the price for a new 767-300ER
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 8:53 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 14):
Not with 767s. There are a lot of them stored in some deserts, including several -300ER versions. The market will probably be flooded with 767s when the 787 delivery starts.

I expect that too. I can see RG gradually replacing the oldest and the PW-powered frames once that process starts. I suppose they also have to already start planning a new WB order, since the 767s they're receiving aren't that new.
 
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Tue May 29, 2007 8:55 pm

Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 15):
How old are these planes.

The B767s are from 1991, 1992, 1992 and 2000. Certainly no older than those used by DL or CO.

The B738 are all from 1998 and 1999, all less than 10 years of use.

Rgs,
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 9:05 pm

I wonder if a fllet of 763´s can compete ( in terms of quality, etc ) withm all those 340´s , 777, 744 on the Europe-Brazil market.

Unless the price is much cheaper, I would not fly on a 763 having the chance to fly on a 332, 777, ... All those 763 might look quite old...

rgds

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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 9:07 pm

Is Varig still planning to use these 763s to start LHR/CDG/FCO/MAD/JFK?
 
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Tue May 29, 2007 9:11 pm

Quoting SQ773 (Reply 18):
Unless the price is much cheaper, I would not fly on a 763 having the chance to fly on a 332, 777, ... All those 763 might look quite old...

Yes, they're a bit old, but they will be probably revamped once RG/G3 catch their breath with all the expansion.

Quoting SQ773 (Reply 18):
Is Varig still planning to use these 763s to start LHR/CDG/FCO/MAD/JFK?

MIA and MEX as well.
 
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Tue May 29, 2007 10:10 pm

Congratulations to RG nice to see a positive investment in airframes, I would see RG (GOL) placing orders for new frames within the next 12 months, when GOL started they had used B737s which have all but left the fleet with the aquisition of new airframes. Any new order would probably go to Boeing maybe B787 or B777 but time will tell. We have to think delivery slots with Boeing now are way ahead the B767's will fill the gap untl then. Hope we see an new paint scheme too, I guess its probable since it looks too much like VARIGLOG now.
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 10:30 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 12):
767s are probably not the most-demanded planes.

Actually they - and all widebody models, for that matter - are seeing stronger demand and subsequent rents and values.
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 10:44 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 14):
Not with 767s. There are a lot of them stored in some deserts, including several -300ER versions.

Another story is availability of 767 in good technical condition which is limited.
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Tue May 29, 2007 10:49 pm

Quoting SQ773 (Reply 18):
Unless the price is much cheaper, I would not fly on a 763 having the chance to fly on a 332, 777, ... All those 763 might look quite old...

I would take a well maintained 767 any day over most 330/340, 747, A300 etc, etc... (I intentionally did not mention the 777  hearts  ...kill me for that)
...but for example having to choose between IB 340s or KL 330/747s/777s and LAN 767s or KQ 767s I would happily take the later ones.

What I am trying to say is if the planes are kept well and will get a refurbishment and state of the art interior... I don't think it would make a difference from a passenger side of view. We usually compare the 767s with the A330s, and I agree the A330 might be newer and more economical to operate, but there is no match in comfort to the 2-3-2 layout in ECO class from a passenger's side.
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Wed May 30, 2007 12:59 am

Hello folks!!!

I´m very happy with these news and really hope see VARIG dominating South-American Intercontinental flights!! Although Boeing 767-300ER is not the most confortable aircraft in terms of ambience I hope that VEM-Maintenance and Eng. make a good job inside of them and standardise the fleet with a confortable Executive Class. Let´s see when VARIG/GOL will announce B787 acquisition.

Does anybody knows when VARIG will receive its first Boeing 767-300?! Any news about the new colour scheme?! I hope they change completely but stays with blue as standarts colours!!

Kind Regards,

Fernando Fontes Torres
 
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Wed May 30, 2007 1:00 am

Congrats to RG on getting a new fleet. Hopefully these planes will be maintained better.

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Wed May 30, 2007 1:30 am

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 20):
MIA and MEX as well.

MEX will be 738 thru MAO and/or BOG.

Quoting Dougbr2006 (Reply 21):
I would see RG (GOL) placing orders for new frames within the next 12 months, when GOL started they had used B737s which have all but left the fleet with the aquisition of new airframes. Any new order would probably go to Boeing maybe B787 or B777 but time will tell

We will see such order very soon but for delivery in 3 to 5 years because of the huge demand. I would believe that Gol will select the 787.

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Wed May 30, 2007 3:48 am

thats amazing news! i hope this means they will be back with star alliance and jfk too.

how will they get all the interiors to match? or wont they?
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Wed May 30, 2007 5:06 am

Quoting FCFONTESTORRES (Reply 25):
Does anybody knows when VARIG will receive its first Boeing 767-300?!

The first will be delivered in June/07 and will be used for the GIG-FRA daily nonstop operations.

Rgs,
 
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Wed May 30, 2007 5:20 am

Quoting FCFONTESTORRES (Reply 25):
I´m very happy with these news and really hope see VARIG dominating South-American Intercontinental flights!!

Tell that to TAM and specially to the European & American airlines!!! RG will have to face tough competition for Premium pax, and that's what really counts!! They better come-up with a very good Business class & decent Y, otherwise they're not gonna go much further on the main long haul destinations (MIA, JFK, CDG, LHR & even FRA).

What Varig needs is a new slogan, a better image, a new way of doing business. I personally think GOL should adopt a new livery, something more clean & simple.
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Wed May 30, 2007 8:18 am

To bring the 67´s are quite simple. The main problem is to bring all of them until 18JUN, when expire their authorization to operate routes not being used.

Considering Brazil is not a serious country and that rules exist not to be applied and followed by everybody but rules exist to be burled, ANAC could extend this dead-line. But imagining that this time the rule is going to be applied, I imagine how these 67´s would fit in this scenario.

My opinion is that just after 18JUN would be possible to have clear skies. Meantime RG is under CAT III and not CAVOC
 
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Wed May 30, 2007 11:04 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 27):
MEX will be 738 thru MAO and/or BOG.

I heard that they weren't authorised by ANAC to use wetleased aircraft to run flights to MEX. But then again, even if they do use the 738, they will replace it sooner or later with a 763.
 
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Wed May 30, 2007 4:48 pm

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 31):
Considering Brazil is not a serious country and that rules exist not to be applied and followed by everybody but rules exist to be burled, ANAC could extend this dead-line. But imagining that this time the rule is going to be applied, I imagine how these 67´s would fit in this scenario.

As I mentioned under another posts, many Europen destinations still have free slots. Ther only problem would apply to LHR, but then not even TAM would have the aircraft to start double daily services immediately. RG could well serve destinations such as FRA, MAD, FCO or MXP, AMS, CDG. If RG/GOL closes a partnership with AF-KL it could become a partner airline of SkyTeam and operate very competitive services to destinations such as MXP/FCO, AMS, CDG and MAD (Air Europa will become SkyTeam member).

As for the US, there are plenty of free slots for Brazilian airlines and I am sure that now AA is eagerly looking for a Brazilian partner to share flights in MIA.

Rgs,
 
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Wed May 30, 2007 11:35 pm

Wet leases are forbidden in Brazil to all airlines.

I think there is a difference between GOL/RG situation and TAM´s. They have to run fast to get aircrafts in order not to loose their rights, while TAM is going to receive new airplanes and if more frequencies guaranteed TAM will have 180 days to implement. Problem is not to operate immediate, but to get the rights.
 
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Thu May 31, 2007 12:29 am

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 32):
I heard that they weren't authorised by ANAC to use wetleased aircraft to run flights to MEX. But then again, even if they do use the 738, they will replace it sooner or later with a 763

What about TAM flying RG flights to LIS during the code-share in 2003/2004 ?

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 34):
Wet leases are forbidden in Brazil to all airlines.

I think there is a difference between GOL/RG situation and TAM?s. They have to run fast to get aircrafts in order not to loose their rights, while TAM is going to receive new airplanes and if more frequencies guaranteed TAM will have 180 days to implement. Problem is not to operate immediate, but to get the rights.

Wet lease of foreign crew and planes is forbidden, but RG is about to wet lease a PP or PR registered plane, and a Brazilian crew, which means, the law is observed. Is that any further restriction JJMNGR ?

I can say to you that ANAC will offer the routes, but RG could get some advantage because they will promise to run the flights before Tam can. They expect to receive some planes during july-october while IIRC you comment that TAM will receive planes only on the 4th quarter.

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Thu May 31, 2007 1:06 am

Next October, 02 A345 will join the fleet and expectation is to start FRA, just remembering there are other interest involved on this. German Government and LH due to the new agreement with TAM. Again, my thoughts are that all of us are speculating and we have to wait this "imbroglio".
 
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Thu May 31, 2007 1:32 am

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 36):
Next October, 02 A345 will join the fleet and expectation is to start FRA, just remembering there are other interest involved on this

ANAC last week announced that 2 available weekly frequencies will be offered and probably TAM will take them in order to try to get the other 3 from Varig (those from MUC flight) later on. Let's see the next couple weeks... should bring some interesting news.

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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Thu May 31, 2007 4:52 am

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 36):
German Government and LH due to the new agreement with TAM

What does the German Government have to do with TAM possible operations in FRA?

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 31):
Considering Brazil is not a serious country and that rules exist not to be applied and followed by everybody but rules exist to be burled, ANAC could extend this dead-line

This is an exceptional phase in which Brazilian civil aviation is going through as you well know. Rules should also take into account recent facts such as the takeover of RG by GOL and that market conditions would be better with AT LEAST two strong players in the international and domestic market. Many were already complaining that in the domestic market we have a duo-poly, so it would be more than fair that, in line with anti-trust recommendations, ANAC extends the deadline to allow for RG/GOL to reinstate its international operations, especially in view of recent development showing GOL serious interest in bring RG back to the aviation arena.

Many think that TAM is now quickly stretching its arms to long-haul destinations, perhaps even joining *Alliance. But this is again pure reaction to GOL/RG and their iminent start of international operations.

Rgs,
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Thu May 31, 2007 5:20 am

Pretty amazing GOL was able to pull this off. So many other carriers have had trouble finding used 763ER's, of course that'll change once the 787 is in service. Given that GOL flies modern aircraft, I would guess this is an interim measure of five years possibly.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 15):
How old are these planes.

The B767s are from 1991, 1992, 1992 and 2000. Certainly no older than those used by DL or CO.

All of CO 767's are very new. The 762ER's were the last off the line and the 764ER's are from the turn of the century and afterwards.
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Thu May 31, 2007 7:21 am

Just a littlem something to add to the discussion: there's a very strong rumor here that Varig/Gol have an order for 15+15 787-900, not to mention the distinct possibility of getting new/used T7s...

Cheers!

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Thu May 31, 2007 7:46 am

Quoting SAOAP (Reply 40):
Just a littlem something to add to the discussion: there's a very strong rumor here that Varig/Gol have an order for 15+15 787-900, not to mention the distinct possibility of getting new/used T7s...

Interesting, maybe the 763ER's will be a shorter interim solution than I thought!
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Thu May 31, 2007 8:56 am

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 34):
Wet leases are forbidden in Brazil to all airlines.

I thought that was just for foreign wetleased aircrafts. As far as I know this rule exists just because of the Brazilian very restrictive labour law. Why can't a Brazilian airline wetlease an aircraft from another one? This should be allowed, at least short periods of time.
But if it is prohibited, how come is G3 running flights the BOG and CCS? Perhaps the Brazil-Mexico bilateral forbids wetleased aircraft... Does someone know anything?
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Thu May 31, 2007 10:38 am

It's just been confirmed that RG will run MEX with G3 aircraft. ANAC refused at first, when RG tried to have the flights operated by an all-G3 crew, now G3 is offering emergency 738 familiarization to RG F/As, so that they can operate the flight together with G3 pilots.

[Edited 2007-05-31 03:40:44]
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Thu May 31, 2007 10:43 am

In an earlier thread I recall seeing AC was sell some to RG. Are the 763ER that are coming from AC leased or owned?

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C010T3
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Thu May 31, 2007 11:51 am

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 43):
It's just been confirmed that RG will run MEX with G3 aircraft. ANAC refused at first, when RG tried to have the flights operated by an all-G3 crew, now G3 is offering emergency 738 familiarization to RG F/As, so that they can operate the flight together with G3 pilots.

Actually it's not 100% confirmed.
 
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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Thu May 31, 2007 7:49 pm

There we go....

Good news for all VARIG fans (including myself).

I get to go back to Brazil this year, but I'm waiting to fly VARIG (MIA-GRU-POA). It's very sad go to MIA and see the VARIG counter empty.

Thanks to the Constantino Family for keep the VARIG brand alive.

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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:22 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 44):
In an earlier thread I recall seeing AC was sell some to RG. Are the 763ER that are coming from AC leased or owned?

100% leased.

Quoting Bocajoe (Reply 46):
I get to go back to Brazil this year, but I'm waiting to fly VARIG (MIA-GRU-POA). It's very sad go to MIA and see the VARIG counter empty

You probably will fly RG again, but may be not thru GRU. RG plans are to grow domestic and connections thru GIG, including some non-stop services (already announced 3x GIG-EZE, 1x GIG-CWB-POA-EZE and 1x GIG-FRA). I'm still waiting for MIA, LHR, CDG and other routes confirmation.

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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:09 am

I can hardly wait for Varig to return to JFK.

I will purposely plan a trip to Brazil just to fly on them again.

As an Ex RG employee, Varig holds a special place in my heart.

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RE: RG (GOL) 12 X B763 And 9 X B737-800

Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:54 am

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 1):
1 PP-VPV 24086

2 PR-VAA 27909

3 PR-VAB 27477

4 PR-VAC 27048

5 PR-VAD 26204

6 PR-VAE 27619

7 PR-VAF 25132

8 PR-VAG 27376

9 PR-VAH 25208

10 PR-VAI 25221

11 PR-VAJ 24999

12 PR-VAK 24947

The engines are a hodge-podge:
24947 PW4000-4060
24999 PW4000-4060
25221 CF6-80C2B6F
25208 PW4000-4060
27376 CF6-80C2B6F
25132 CF6-80C2B6F
27619 PW4000-4060
26204 PW4000-4060
27048 CF6-80C2B4F
27477 PW4000-4060
27909 PW4000-4060
24086 ??

There are some B767-300ERs for lease on the market with PW engines. I'm surprised they would keep the CF6 engines if they could standardize. Maintaining a single aircraft fleet would be far more efficient.

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