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AS: SNA-YVR?

Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:57 am

Remember a few years back when AS started SNA-YVR flights but forgot to get custom cleareance? Is this route still possible for AS? I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem since YVR has border preclearance for flights to the US.
 
elmothehobo
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RE: AS: SNA-YVR?

Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:30 am

With FIS in Vancouver, they can.
 
deltairlines
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RE: AS: SNA-YVR?

Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:53 am

YVR had a FIS back then as well. The problem is on the US end; the US city must also have Customs as a fail-safe if they could not clear them up at the gateway city. Since at the time (not sure about now), SNA did not have Customs, they could not handle an international arrival, even if pre-cleared.
 
Mcmax
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RE: AS: SNA-YVR?

Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:25 am

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
YVR had a FIS back then as well. The problem is on the US end; the US city must also have Customs as a fail-safe if they could not clear them up at the gateway city. Since at the time (not sure about now), SNA did not have Customs, they could not handle an international arrival, even if pre-cleared.

Yup, that's correct. Because SNA currently does not have any customs facilities, international flights are not permitted. However, SNA is in the midst of building a new Terminal C, which is supposed to have customs facilities for international service. It would be great if AS were to reinstate the YVR non-stop--it would save the stop in Seattle and the frantic trek on the train system to get to the Horizon gates.

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pacifica
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RE: AS: SNA-YVR?

Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:27 am

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
The problem is on the US end; the US city must also have Customs as a fail-safe if they could not clear them up at the gateway city.

One thing though is that if the flight is pre-cleared in Canada, the US airport only needs to be a landing rights airport, rather than an airport of entry. However, I am not too sure of the differences between these two...maybe someone else with more knowledge can elaborate?
 
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RE: AS: SNA-YVR?

Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:53 am

Why would AS fly the route? AS dropped SAN-YVR after Air Canada/Jazz entered the market. Why would it be any different for SNA?
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Tennisace
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RE: AS: SNA-YVR?

Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:14 pm

SNA-YVR (like SAN-YVR) is a route for which a B737 might be a touch too big.....more of an RJ route for which AC is ideally suited to pickup connecting traffic through Vancouver. I bet AC is eyeing it once customs get set up there. But you never know, maybe AS (Horizon?) will give it another go, but like SAN-YVRthey would be relying strictly on O&D traffic which is a disadvantage. As an aside, a friend of mine recently flew YVR-SAN on the Jazz CRJ705 and said it was full both ways.
ACJ is starting YVR-SMF this summer, so I guess SMF has full customs there?? Doesn't AeroMexico/Mexicana fly in there too??