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NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:42 am

It is in the air right now heading to MDW....Mesaba flight 3690....
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:05 am

 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:17 am

They'll be taking the plane to the first cities this week for ground staff famillirization - MDW, FAR and DFW. Revenue service starts June 7.


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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:25 am

MES3690 / MES3691 CRJ9 operating MSP-IAD-MSP today, Tuesday Apr-05.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MES3690

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MES3691
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:08 am

Where are they flying from DFW...I would hope MEM, and not MSP or DTW
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:36 am

MSP-DFW, all CRJ-900's will be based initially from MSP.

Its actually upgrading from a CRJ-200 flight. Plus the CR9's have a First Class cabin and the new bins will fit rollerboards. This isn't bad at all.
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:38 am

Still a CRJ tho. Sorry it is bad enough on a 1 hour flight let alone a 3 or 4 hour flight.
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:44 am

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 5):
MSP-DFW, all CRJ-900's will be based initially from MSP.

Its actually upgrading from a CRJ-200 flight. Plus the CR9's have a First Class cabin and the new bins will fit rollerboards. This isn't bad at all.

MSP-DFW should be mainline A319
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:58 am

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 7):
MSP-DFW

Says Who? Can NW profitably fill an A319 on that route with the type of frequency they would like to provide their valuable business travelers?
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:23 am

Quoting Ejmmsu (Reply 8):
MSP-DFW should be mainline A319

I sent your suggestion on to the NWA scheduling people.They answered back "why". What do I tell them?
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:33 am

NWA does fly Mainline to DFW from MSP. This is a filler between mainline flights. (US-AW), UA, CO, DL all do it. AS PSU.DTW.SCE said they are upgrading from a CRJ-200 to a 900, with first class.

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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:39 am

The nthat is fine...All CR9 would be poor
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:57 am

Just matching capacity with demand......these CR9 flights to DFW are upgrading from CRJ-200's, allowing NW to maintain off-peak frequencies. One such being a 10am DFW-MSP departure. Don't like the CR9, then there are plenty of other NW mainline options to choose from out of DFW:

DTW - (5 total - all mainline) 4 DC-9-30, 1 A319
MEM - (3 total - 2 mainline) 1 CRJ-200, 1 DC-9-30, 1 DC-9-50
MSP - (6 total - 3 mainline) 1 CRJ-200, 2 CRJ-900 (2nd one starts in July), 2 DC-9-30, 1 A319
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:27 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 6):
Still a CRJ tho. Sorry it is bad enough on a 1 hour flight let alone a 3 or 4 hour flight.

The CRJ-700 is worlds different then the CRJ-200 and with NW operating the new NextGen CRJ its going to have even more room.
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:30 am

NW's are the first next-gen CRJ's, which offer a much higher level of comfort (I won't quite say E-jets level, but much closer than any previous CRJ, with bigger windows, better seating, and overhead bins which can hold a rollerboard, as well as lcd lighting and a newly shaped interior offer more space and less of the cramped feeling in window seats. Truly, MSP-DFW wouldn't be bad on this flight, given the preferability of 2+2 seating vs 3+3, I'd say it'd be about as comfortable as the A319, if not close. I hate CRJ200, and the older CRJ7 and CRJ9 aren't great, but it looks like they've made some very worthwhile improvements for passenger comfort in the new ones.

As for wanting an A319, why don't they just send the A330, it's more comfortable, right? If they had the demand for A319 as often as their pax want to fly, they'd do it, but as they don't, I'd rather have more frequencies on CRJ9 than fewer on A319.

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 9):
Quoting Ejmmsu (Reply 8):
MSP-DFW should be mainline A319

I sent your suggestion on to the NWA scheduling people.They answered back "why". What do I tell them?

I'd agree with them.
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:04 pm

On Thursday June-7 CRJ9:

MES3675 MSP-DFW
MES3674 DFW-MSP

MES3638 MSP-FAR
MES3639 FAR-MSP

MES3629 MSP-MDW
MES3630 MDW-MSP
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:16 pm

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 6):
Still a CRJ tho. Sorry it is bad enough on a 1 hour flight let alone a 3 or 4 hour flight.

I don't know but the CRJ-900's and I don't know if it is just these Nex-Gen's but I feel I have more room in them than I do in most mainline a/c. I have been in the XJ one and the seats are very comfortable and have alot of room and most notably the larger windows.

I am listed on the first revenue flt tomorrow to DFW, hoping to get first class.  Big grin
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:19 pm

Quoting Hammer (Thread starter):
It is in the air right now heading to MDW....Mesaba flight 3690....

Yea I did the W&B for this flight and thank god it was a familiarization and FAA flight, with the rain in MDW if this had been a revenue flt there would have been a lot of folks left behind due to landing weight restrictions on contaminated runway at MDW.
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:44 pm

Quoting STJ (Reply 17):
Yea I did the W&B for this flight and thank god it was a familiarization and FAA flight, with the rain in MDW if this had been a revenue flt there would have been a lot of folks left behind due to landing weight restrictions on contaminated

If this is a problem down the road, then why will they be using this machine into MDW? Seems silly that Airlines used 757s into an airport that you cannot operate a CRJ-900 into safely....Does this mean that the CRJ-900 is too next gen that it cant do simple 757 stuff? Sorry to sound so simplistic, but it seems that these "so called" next gen aircraft are as about as rugged as a crate paper banner in a hurricane.

What say you?

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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:56 pm

Quoting STJ (Reply 16):
I am listed on the first revenue flt tomorrow to DFW, hoping to get first class.

With only two seats left on the plane and you being number 7 on the list good luck even getting on.
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:11 am

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 18):
Seems silly that Airlines used 757s

The 757 is the most capable plane on the planet. Pretty much anyway. It has the best short field performance compared to capacity in the commercial aviation market. Look at SNA. AA operates 757 to DFW and IAH operates 733 to IAH. The 733 is always restricted. Not so much on the 757.
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:58 am

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 18):
Seems silly that Airlines used 757s into an airport that you cannot operate a CRJ-900 into safely....

XJET, please read the whole statement.......I know that the 757 can perform wonderfully out of MDW.......I guess I should re-word my statement, eh?

I am saying silly me, that the very idea that they should try operating a new CRJ-900 into an airport that they fly 757s into and the CRJ-900 has a weight or load penalty.....Sheesh....What good is that new CRJ-900 if it cant even under wet runway conditions haul itself full into and out of MDW???

I am saying that if the 757s can do it why cant the CRJ-900.........not putting down the 757....

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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:44 am

Actually fly on an E-jet and then compare it to the -700/-900 and tell me what you think is more comfortable. I have ridden on all series of the CRJ and even work the -200 and cannot stand them. Working it on the other hand does provide more room in the galley than the E145 family.
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:50 am

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 21):
Quoting Access-Air (Reply 18):
Seems silly that Airlines used 757s into an airport that you cannot operate a CRJ-900 into safely....

XJET, please read the whole statement.......I know that the 757 can perform wonderfully out of MDW.......I guess I should re-word my statement, eh?

I've flown NW 757-200s in and out of MDW. They are great fun on takeoff and go out loaded with passengers, no trouble whatsoever, in the sky with plenty of pavement to spare. 757 is a rocket.
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:39 am

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 21):
XJET, please read the whole statement.......I know that the 757 can perform wonderfully out of MDW.......I guess I should re-word my statement, eh?

I am saying silly me, that the very idea that they should try operating a new CRJ-900 into an airport that they fly 757s into and the CRJ-900 has a weight or load penalty.....Sheesh....What good is that new CRJ-900 if it cant even under wet runway conditions haul itself full into and out of MDW???

I am saying that if the 757s can do it why cant the CRJ-900.........not putting down the 757....

I didn't think you were knocking the 757. I was just saying that plane is far more capable than most. Even the samller RJs. Hell, the E145 can't even take some of the short runways that the 757 does. The 757 is one of the only planes that was built with good performance in mind. At least in the civil aircraft realm. Most others are made to be purely economical. The 757 accomplished both.
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:25 am

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 18):
If this is a problem down the road, then why will they be using this machine into MDW?

It fits the market at that time slot, my understanding is that the CRJ-900 LR's are not the greatest for short haul flights, with that being said a friend at NW said they have W&B issues with the DC-9's into MDW (especially if runway contaminated). NW can't afford to fly a 757 in there all the time, the loads just won't justify it. I the case of the test run they had a bit of extra gas on it since the dispatchers are getting used to it also but even if you took the extra gas out we still would have had to boot some folks but again it was for LGW not TOG.


Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 19):
With only two seats left on the plane and you being number 7 on the list good luck even getting on.

Obviously you figured out my short name on A.net LOL - It didn't look that bad on Monday but hadn't looked yet, I knew getting back might be a challenge but going wasn't looking that bad, hopefully since 7am departure there will be a few no show (usually are for the early am flights)

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 21):
I am saying silly me, that the very idea that they should try operating a new CRJ-900 into an airport that they fly 757s into and the CRJ-900 has a weight or load penalty.....Sheesh

See above

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 21):
I am saying that if the 757s can do it why cant the CRJ-900.........not putting down the 757....

The 757 has a lot of lift at low speeds and a very good thrust to weight so it has quite the performance which helps it on shorter fields.
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:11 pm

Awesome, Can't wait to see the erj's in nwa colors.

Good to see Mesaba on the rebound!
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:14 pm

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 19):
With only two seats left on the plane and you being number 7 on the list good luck even getting on

Well almost made it, couple of runners that showed up 8 prior got me otherwise would have made it. Oh well can't say I didn't try.
 
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:44 am

For those itching to see interior shots who don't have access to the "mymesaba" intranet and the galleries... have a look at this star tribune article and the associated 360 degree virtual tour photos. You can also go to the bombardier website and experience their new cabin enhancements which are found on the Mesaba -900.

http://www.startribune.com/535/story/1230436.html


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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:00 am

Please bring them to ROC! I haven't gotten a shot of a CR9,yet!
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RE: NWA CRJ900 To MDW

Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:53 am

I saw this jet (N901XJ) land on Monday at MDW as I was sitting on a Southwest jet waiting for clearance to take off. Didn't have my camera with me (I was traveling for work). From the right hand side of the plane I had an excellent view of the arrivals into MDW, but seeing the NW CRJ900 land for the first time was pretty freaking cool.

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