FlyEmirates
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Fare Classes & Availability Using SEATCOUNTER.COM

Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:28 am

Can someone explain the booking classes on seatcounter.com

Below is a search on AUH-LHR on EY on 21 June, would someone be kind enough to interprete availability in Y in simple terms for non-rev such as 'expect to have 50 seats empty'

Availability by Booking Class (by class)
A B C D F H I J K L M N O P Q S T U V W Y Z
0 9 0 0 2 9 5 9 6 9 9 0 0 9

Thanks in advance
 
FlyEmirates
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RE: Fare Classes & Availability Using SEATCOUNTER.COM

Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:29 am

Sorry appears that A.net has (unhelpfully) condensed the gaps in previous post

A0
B9
C0
D0
F2
H9
I
J5
K9
L6
M9
N
O
P
Q9
S
T0
U
V0
W
Y9
Z
 
a380us
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RE: Fare Classes & Availability Using SEATCOUNTER.COM

Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:31 am

Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 1):

A0
B9
C0
D0
F2
H9
I
J5
K9
L6
M9
N
O
P
Q9
S
T0
U
V0
W
Y9
Z

how do you know
and what do most mean?
www.JandACosmetics.com
 
JBLUA320
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RE: Fare Classes & Availability Using SEATCOUNTER.COM

Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:34 am

I believe on a bucket system like this, the GDS would only show up to 9, which implies that there are still plenty (or 9 at minimum) seats available in each class. I don't think there is anyway to tell exactly how many seats are open on this system, except to add up all the numbers there and use that as a minimum amongst the classes.

I could be very very wrong, though. Just my guess!

JBLU
 
oznznut
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RE: Fare Classes & Availability Using SEATCOUNTER.COM

Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:32 am

Yeah, it would be so much easier if a person could just go the airline web-site, search for the specific flight, and pull up a seating/availability plan. I know you can on AA, think you can with UA. Until about a year ago, could do so on NZ.

I wonder if the airlines' love of overbooking causes them to not do so. I mean, if the chart showed no seats available, most sane folks would not buy another seat on that flight. Where would they expect to sit? On the wing?

Dave
 
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RE: Fare Classes & Availability Using SEATCOUNTER.COM

Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:00 am

GDS fare buckets are not a very accurate way of predicting whether or not a flight is full. It merely shows fare classes which are still available for purchase.

Quoting Oznznut (Reply 4):
Yeah, it would be so much easier if a person could just go the airline web-site, search for the specific flight, and pull up a seating/availability plan.

Seat maps are also a pretty inaccurate method of determining flight availability. They does not show reservations without seat assignments. Alternatively you may be able to reserve a ticket on a flight where all of the seats show sold.

Passenger Boarding Totals (PBT) are proprietary information and I would be hard pressed to believe airlines would casually release this information to the public.
 
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RE: Fare Classes & Availability Using SEATCOUNTER.COM

Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:05 pm

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 3):
I believe on a bucket system like this, the GDS would only show up to 9, which implies that there are still plenty (or 9 at minimum) seats available in each class. I

I see 2 seats in First (F) and 5 seats in Business (J). Doesn't appear to be any discounted First (A) or Business (C D I Z).

Rather than available, I would say available for sale.