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Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:19 am

I apologise if this is old news, but i did a search and all i came up with were rumours but since the deal is done now, I thought it is worth a mention.

LX signed a deal with AC over another additional three A343s to be delivered in 2008. No definate dates have been agreed upon yet and I do not know wether these birds will be leased or purchased, but i'll keep you updated. I'm now waiting for LX's official press release. This will take LX's A343 fleet to 15 by the end of 2008 after taking delivery of the two ex-OS A343s and the fourth (and first) ex-AC A343 which will enter service in July This is already being discussed in the Swiss aviation thread but i thought it might be of interest to some of our non-Swiss a.netters.

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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:38 am

Its great to see LX doing so well, its amazing what a good management team can do! Anybody know any new routes planned with the new additions?
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:35 pm

Swissair, at is height, operated 19 MD11s + 15 A332s. It seems as if the LX fleet is slowly inching towards that size again. With 15 A343s + 12 A332s available next summer, we are again at 27 widebodies, or a 50% increase when compared to the low point, which was 9 A343 + 9 A332. This additional capacity should be good for one or two new destinations. I wouldn't be surprised to see IAD returning.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:50 pm

Now all we need is the inevitable (I wish!) LX order for 20 A350-800s + 20 A350-900s. I can see them fitting perfectly into the LX fleet and replacing all the A330s and A340s. One day...
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:26 pm

Good so I guess that DEL will get a 343 then
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:37 pm

So I guess that means US is not getting any of AC's A340s eh?
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:09 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 3):
Now all we need is the inevitable (I wish!) LX order for 20 A350-800s + 20 A350-900s. I can see them fitting perfectly into the LX fleet and replacing all the A330s and A340s. One day..

Or perhaps an even better 20 788, 20 789 order (Rolls powered, of course, PM), which would suit the Zurich hub much better.  Wink

Anyone else see 7x LAX coming back?
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:12 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
Or perhaps an even better 20 788, 20 789 order (Rolls powered, of course, PM), which would suit the Zurich hub much better.  Wink

OK, I'll settle for that - with with Trents, mind!  Smile
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:14 pm

Good to see LH running so well. They clearly have plenty of room for growth and I'm sure they'll keep acquiring new jets for a while yet. Especially since they have a taste for second hand A343, which should be getting easier to get a hold of. I'm interested to see what their long term strategy is (what they are buying as an A330/340 replacement). Probably A350, but still interesting to see.

Quoting Centrair (Reply 5):
So I guess that means US is not getting any of AC's A340s eh?

Who knows what US has up their sleeve at this point. My guess is that they are going to order both 787 and A350 at this point, because Parker sure wants to do something with that money burning a hole in his pocket, and he needs long haul jets for his international expansion, so if he keeps sitting on it, not ordering anything new, my guess is he's planning another pass at a buyout.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:13 pm

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 8):
Good to see LH running so well.

Not to mention the topic of this thread, LX...  Wink
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:17 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 2):
15 A343s + 12 A332s available next summer

12 A 332? At the moment they have 11, there is no news about one more. That would make 26 long-haul frames (15+11), like Swiss had at the very beginning before they downsized the fleet to 9 A 332 and 9 A 343.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:42 pm

Good to see - great airline. Would love to fly with them long-haul. A350s down the line I can totally see.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:46 pm

Quoting ZRH (Reply 10):
12 A 332? At the moment they have 11, there is no news about one more.

I stand corrected. I was under the impression that one more A332 was due, which is apparently not the case. Still, quite impressive widebody growth there from 18 to 26 frames in give and take 2 years.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:54 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 12):
quite impressive widebody growth there from 18 to 26 frames in give and take 2 years.

I agree, it is impressive. A few months ago I never thought about such an expansion. I only hope they will be successful. But I am confidant that the parent company LH would not have allowed that if they didn't evaluated it carefully.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:59 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
Anyone else see 7x LAX coming back?

Yes, ZRH-LAX will go daily in mid-July.

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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:18 pm

Wow LX goes for daily ZRH-LAX.

I think this was not so good because it is already many airlines that operate from LAX to Europe.

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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:18 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 5):
So I guess that means US is not getting any of AC's A340s eh?

IIRC US was after AC's a345's, which are now rumoured to go to TAM. I don't think there was an intention of getting AC's a343's. Besides, I'm sure more AC a343's will be coming available, as the 777 deliveries continue.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:43 pm

Including the deliveries in 2007 and 2008, this brings the joint LH/LX A330/A340 fleet to no less than 93 units.

332: 11
332: 15
343: 43
346: 24

That's a pretty nice share of the worldwide A330/A340 fleet, isn't it?

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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:52 pm

Quoting SailorOrion (Reply 17):
332: 15

Sorry - small typo. You meant A333.  bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:07 pm

Whoops yeah  Smile

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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:34 am

I was told that PEK is going to be on LX network by their own equipment as of 2009 summer time table. This is maybe the proof of additional birds is coming.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:55 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 2):
I wouldn't be surprised to see IAD returning

I didn't know LX flew to IAD, always thought UA did that route, nonetheless, it would be nice to see A343 in swiss colours, if they do decide to fly here.

Quoting Cricket (Reply 4):
Good so I guess that DEL will get a 343 then

Is LX starting DEL?? thats news for me. When is the start date??
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:58 am

Quoting PM (Reply 3):
Now all we need is the inevitable (I wish!) LX order for 20 A350-800s + 20 A350-900s. I can see them fitting perfectly into the LX fleet and replacing all the A330s and A340s. One day...

I think it depends what LH is up to. If LH orders 787 we will see them in LX colors as well if LH orders A350 LX will have them, too.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:20 am

What's the betting it's their three non-X A340-313s.....
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:13 am

Quoting Columba (Reply 22):
I think it depends what LH is up to. If LH orders 787 we will see them in LX colors as well if LH orders A350 LX will have them, too

I disagree. LH isn't interested in LH/LX fleet communality, as both LX and LH are two seperate companies and it doesnt look like LX will be merged into LH anytime soon. LX will purchase what is best suited for them and so will LH, and for LX i'd say it's definately the A350, for the obvious fleet communality reason. Another example are the Embraers which LH ordered. Rumour has it that they are destined for LX, as it's obviousely the best AVRO replacement for LX. If it had been like you suggest, LH would have ordered CRJs for LX as LH operates a large fleet of the type (and no E-Jets, nota bene).

[Edited 2007-06-06 19:14:33]
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:18 am

LX starts DEL in November (with A332) and PVG in March 08 (with A343).

Here is the news link:
http://www.swiss.com/web/NS6/about-s...ress-releases-07.htm?newsid=110925

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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:29 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 15):

I think this was not so good because it is already many airlines that operate from LAX to Europe.

LAX is the biggest O&D airport in the world and prior to their downsizing after the SR collapse, LAX was the number 2 international destination for Swissair next to New York, despite only having 1 flight per day. Further, if they start THR again, they will be able to once again market the heavily trafficked and high-yielding LAX-THR market which was successful for them prior to the downsizing.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:30 am

Quoting ZRH (Reply 13):
I agree, it is impressive. A few months ago I never thought about such an expansion. I only hope they will be successful. But I am confidant that the parent company LH would not have allowed that if they didn't evaluated it carefully.

That's really a good surprise to see LX grow again, and at such a pace. As you said, nothing of this could be possible without a careful evaluation. Just to remember, last year LX made a net profit of CHF 263 million compared to the CHF 178 million loss the previous year. And during the first three months of 2007, the airline made a net profit of CHF 118 million, 114 more than during 2006.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:48 am

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 24):
Another example are the Embraers which LH ordered. Rumour has it that they are destined for LX,

There are plenty of rumors regarding the Embraers. One is that they are goingt to LH Cityline another is that they will go to Eurowings.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:51 am

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 21):
I didn't know LX flew to IAD, always thought UA did that route, nonetheless

Swissair and later Swiss flew ZRH IAD with A332.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 26):
prior to their downsizing after the SR collapse, LAX was the number 2 international destination for Swissair next to New York, despite only having 1 flight per day

I don't know where you got that information, but it is certainly not correct. For as long as I worked there, SR106/107 was never a stellar performer. Despite showing positive financial results during the summer months, Swissair never succeeded in making the route profitable on a yearly basis, because of the steep losses in incurred during the winter months. As it goes, the strongest financial performers in the Swissair network at the time of the airline's collapse were New York, Malabo, Miami, Boston and further down Hong Kong and Tokyo. Los Angeles was marginally loss making but by far not as disastrous as San Francisco, which was bleeding money.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:56 am

Quoting QLS (Reply 25):
LX starts DEL in November (with A332)

thanks, looks like DEL will be busy during the night time rush hour, even LH's flight 760 from FRA comes in at 00:35, i hope the 9 jetbridge gates at DEL Intl. terminal can handle the traffic...i am surprised LX got a slot for that time. anyhow, it will be nice to connect through ZRH when i travel from IAD-DEL, though IAD-ZRH will be on UA unless LX decides to fly to IAD as well in the future.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:58 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 29):

I don't know where you got that information, but it is certainly not correct.

According to Swissair themselves in their magazine, LAX was number 2
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:20 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 31):
According to Swissair themselves in their magazine, LAX was number 2

Well, obviously I don't know about that article, but I can guarantee you that the real financial situation (presuming that that is where the number 2 position was refering to) was far from rosy. Every time route planning and schedule meetings would be called, there would be a discussion about whether or not to reduce LAX frequencies in winter to somewhat offset losses incurred during the period of the year.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:09 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 2):
12 A332s

Even with the correction to 11 A332s, where did they get the extra 2 from? I don't remember that happening. Did they simply re-enter two old SR planes into service or did they get different ones from elsewhere?

Quoting Centrair (Reply 5):
So I guess that means US is not getting any of AC's A340s eh?

US was looking for A345, not A343, so they could still get them, though there are new rumors of those going to TAM.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
Or perhaps an even better 20 788, 20 789 order (Rolls powered, of course, PM), which would suit the Zurich hub much better.

See below:

Quoting Columba (Reply 22):
I think it depends what LH is up to. If LH orders 787 we will see them in LX colors as well if LH orders A350 LX will have them, too.

This is one possible explanation.

The other, more likely explanation, is fleet commonality, but not between LX and LH. Within LX itself. With it's large fleet of Airbus wide-bodies, it would be a surprising turn of events for them to order a Boeing aircraft. SR always loved MD and Airbus. The only Boeing they operated was the 747. And LX likes their Airbus as well.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 15):
I think this was not so good because it is already many airlines that operate from LAX to Europe.

Switzerland is a niche destination. It sees a lot of tourists and businessmen, as do most European countries, but it is a very different route from the majority of the ones you mentioned. I think LX might do alright, although if SR's performance on the route is any indication of what could happen, the route will only remain daily during the peak summer months.

Along similar lines, a few questions of my own. Perhaps better suited to the Swiss Aviation thread, but here goes:

1) When, if ever, will LX re-do the interior of the A332's to have the same IFE as the 343's? In that case, will the rest of the 332s become three-class configurations?

2) How old are the 343's LX is getting? Will they be in need of replacement soon? Are they interim aircraft until LX decides whether to pursue the A350?

3) With all this long-haul expansion, what will happen within Europe? Will there be a fleet change? Will the "Swiss European" name become either more or less prominent?

Thanks.

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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:17 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 33):

The other, more likely explanation, is fleet commonality, but not between LX and LH. Within LX itself. With it's large fleet of Airbus wide-bodies, it would be a surprising turn of events for them to order a Boeing aircraft.

Exactly what i said...

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 33):
Even with the correction to 11 A332s, where did they get the extra 2 from? I don't remember that happening. Did they simply re-enter two old SR planes into service or did they get different ones from elsewhere?

They received two ex-LH and formerly ex-Sabena A332s in mid 2006.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 33):
1) When, if ever, will LX re-do the interior of the A332's to have the same IFE as the 343's? In that case, will the rest of the 332s become three-class configurations?

Cabin reconfigurations will start coming winter.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:20 am

Quoting PM (Reply 9):
Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 8):
Good to see LH running so well.

Not to mention the topic of this thread, LX...

Well, with LH being a 100% owner of LX............
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:29 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 35):
Well, with LH being a 100% owner of LX

But they are still two seperate airlines, how many times do I have to repeat myself?
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:42 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 33):
How old are the 343's LX is getting?

Depends. According to CH-Aviation, AC still has nine A343s in its fleet two of which are already attributed to other airlines. Among the seven remaining are one -313 received new in June 1995, and six -313X delivered in 1997 (4) and 1999 (2). HB-JMJ was originally delivered to AC in November 1996.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:56 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 15):
Wow LX goes for daily ZRH-LAX.

I think this was not so good because it is already many airlines that operate from LAX to Europe.

BA
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It's great the LX is going to 7x weekly at LAX. I've flown them a few times on LAX-ZRH (in business) and it is always packed in all classes. And it must be doing better than "OK" if they are going daily.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:18 am

If I was not wrong, LX actually ordered 13 A343 before their down sizing to 9 + 9 long haul in 2003. Where the other 4 MSN gone? Which airline finally taken them? or those were totally skipped?
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:29 pm

Quoting MD11A340 (Reply 39):
LX actually ordered 13 A343 before their down sizing to 9 + 9 long haul in 2003.

Actually, the order started off with the A346.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:48 pm

Oh yes, the oh-so-terrible A343 has no problems finding a new home.

Quoting Columba (Reply 22):
I think it depends what LH is up to. If LH orders 787 we will see them in LX colors as well if LH orders A350 LX will have them, too.

Yep, and LH will order them for both.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 40):
Actually, the order started off with the A346.

That would really be a dream, Swiss A346.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:49 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 41):
That would really be a dream, Swiss A346.

It might be a good aircraft for some routes, but I think the only destinations that could consistently support the 346 would be New York and Boston, no? I've flown JFK-GVA at all times of the year, and I've never been able to choose my seat at the gate, because it's always packed. And JFK-ZRH is twice daily, also with incredibly high loads.

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 37):
HB-JMJ was originally delivered to AC in November 1996

So they've still quite a few years left in them, which is good. Looks like LX can take their time choosing a replacement aircraft. They'll probably wait until the 787 and 350 have been in service a few years before making their minds up.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 36):
But they are still two seperate airlines, how many times do I have to repeat myself?

People can't seem to get it, haha. LH owns LX but LX is still its own entity. It's independently traded, it's independently run and funded, and it operates as it always has.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 34):
They received two ex-LH and formerly ex-Sabena A332s in mid 2006.

I thought SN only had 333s. Apparently I was wrong, haha.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 34):
Cabin reconfigurations will start coming winter.

Will they all become three-class or will IQA, IQP, IQG, and IQC still be the only three-class aircraft?

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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:06 pm

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 42):
It might be a good aircraft for some routes, but I think the only destinations that could consistently support the 346 would be New York and Boston, no? I've flown JFK-GVA at all times of the year, and I've never been able to choose my seat at the gate, because it's always packed. And JFK-ZRH is twice daily, also with incredibly high loads.

Swissair had 743s once, didn't they? What routes did they use those for? BOS, JFK, HKG?
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:09 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 43):
Swissair had 743s once, didn't they? What routes did they use those for? BOS, JFK, HKG?

ATL, PHL

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 42):

Will they all become three-class or will IQA, IQP, IQG, and IQC still be the only three-class aircraft?

They will indeed all become three-class.

edit: typo  grumpy 

[Edited 2007-06-07 14:10:25]
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:13 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 44):
Quoting Thorben (Reply 43):
Swissair had 743s once, didn't they? What routes did they use those for? BOS, JFK, HKG?

ATL, PHL

There is also a picture of one at YUL. So could these routes (to ZRH) see a Swiss A346 (demand-wise) at some time, or is too much of their traffic now going through FRA?
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:32 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 43):
Swissair had 743s once, didn't they? What routes did they use those for? BOS, JFK, HKG?

The plane also used to operate to PEK and PVG at some stage and in the late 80s to SEL. PHL was an extension of the BOS flight. The HKG flight operated for quite a long time as ZRH-BOM-HKG vv.
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:38 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 43):

Swissair had 743s once, didn't they? What routes did they use those for? BOS, JFK, HKG?

Well, I flew them to BOS, ATL and JNB and I know they also flew to PEK.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 43):
Swissair had 743s once, didn't they?

They had five. Two all pax and three combis.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:48 pm

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 21):
I didn't know LX flew to IAD, always thought UA did that route, nonetheless, it would be nice to see A343 in swiss colours, if they do decide to fly here.

IAD and PHL were each at some point an extension of the BOS flight if I recall correctly.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 36):
But they are still two seperate airlines, how many times do I have to repeat myself?

So what? LH owns 100% of LX. Do you think they don't have any say in how LX operates? What about the recent comments that LH may be "hubing" some aircraft at Zurich? Won't that play into the fleet commonality? Any decision on the future fleet planning will have to take into account the 2 combined airlines because it's a decision that will last for 20 years and sooner or later these 2 will be operating as a combined airline.
 
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RE: Confirmed: LX To Get Another 3 A343s From AC

Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:08 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 43):
Swissair had 743s once, didn't they? What routes did they use those for? BOS, JFK, HKG?

ZRH-GVA-JFK
ZRH-ORD
GVA-JNB

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 48):
IAD and PHL were each at some point an extension of the BOS flight if I recall correctly.

That's what I have in mind too. I remember that back in 1984, I flew with them on the ZRH-BOS-ORD and back route.

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