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Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:58 am

Vancouver: Emirates airline, the largest customer of Airbus A380 superjumbo aircraft, will carry a jaw-dropping 644 passengers in some of the 47 planes it has on order when it begins receiving them next year.

Maurice Flanagan, vice chairman and group president, said Emirates will design its A380s in three separate seating configurations tailor made to different routes. The highest density configuration will seat 644 in business and economy with no first class.

Routes to Sydney, Melbourne and New York will be served by a three-class configuration carrying 490 passengers, while so-called "11-hour routes" such as Dubai-London will also have three classes and carry 514 passengers, Flanagan said.


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"We'll fill the planes," he promised. "At the moment, there are destinations where we just can't get the seats for them - New York and Heathrow, for example."

Emirates is the eighth largest carrier by international traffic, and a recent report by Boston Consulting Group noted they could become the largest international airline by 2012, partly due to its expansion with the A380s. The revelations for the first time offer a detailed look at how the Dubai-based airline plans to use its mammoth order of double-decker planes. But while industry experts say Emirates will profit from integrating the new planes into its network, they note having three different seating plans for the A380 fleet could be risky.

David Field, an editor with Airline Business magazine, said the plans usher in a string of firsts for an airline already known for innovation.

"There have been some 500 seat configurations (for the A380), but no other airline has announced more than one configuration, and no one has announced anything over 550 seats."

He added, "Emirates has an extremely good reputation in the industry as a high quality and highly profitable airline, so anything they do, people would look at very carefully."

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But he also cautioned that in an era where the airline industry strives to simplify business plans, three different seating plans could constrain the airline if complications arose.

"The more complexity you add to different configurations, the more pitfalls you set up all the way down the line," he said. "Granted, they have a big fleet, but airlines in the US, who have dedicated one fleet type to a specific route have always run into problems. What happens when an airplane gets sick?"



Looks like we are going to have some cramped up passenger for the shorter routes like the subcontinent.
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:10 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
Emirates airline, the largest customer of Airbus A380 superjumbo aircraft, will carry a jaw-dropping 644 passengers in some of the 47 planes it has on order when it begins receiving them next year.

I guess all the talk of casino, bars and hair salons are off the table. lol. but for real how long will it take to put in 644 people on an airplane???? any idea if the first class customers will want to board first and sit there and wait and wait, or will they just want to stick around the companies lounge just a little bit longer. Can't wait to see a A380 in person.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:14 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
"We'll fill the planes," he promised. "At the moment, there are destinations where we just can't get the seats for them - New York and Heathrow, for example."

For the first few years, I have no doubts.

Out years? Depends on Bi-lateral negotiations with India and China.

644 seats...  wideeyed  (No F)

versus 490 in the "high yield market" configuration...  scratchchin 

I think they can do it. Those triple skybridge gates had better open up soon!  Wink  crowded 


Personally, I had predicted two seating plans... three surprises me... But EK makes great money so they have something in their business plan that I do not know about.

I just wonder if they could turn DXB/JXB (or will it be JXL?) into a "rolling hub". They have enough flights around the clock for LHR, DOH, and for all I know a few other DXB city pairs are close enough. (SYD? Auckland via all the different ways you can get there?) It would take a new Bilateral, but BOM, DEL, and a few other Indian cities could support enough frequency to be part of a "rolling hub." Just a thought...

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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:16 am

Quoting Juan911411 (Reply 1):
I guess all the talk of casino, bars and hair salons are off the table. lol. but for real how long will it take to put in 644 people on an airplane????

Well the 644 pax number is only for certain ac, AF does the same to with 77W's they have a high density version with no F.

Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
"The more complexity you add to different configurations, the more pitfalls you set up all the way down the line," he said. "Granted, they have a big fleet, but airlines in the US, who have dedicated one fleet type to a specific route have always run into problems. What happens when an airplane gets sick?"

Would be the case if they didn't have fleet of 45+.
IMO EK is making a smart move by configuring their fleet according to their network. They won't have a problem filling those high density 380's in and out of India IMO.
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:29 am

If they put in enough "slack planes" to handle MX and positioning issues, EK should be fine. 47+ gives them plenty of frames to work with.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:37 am

I wish EK luck. We shall see what we shall see in the coming years. I am really interested in learning just what they are going to do with 47 or whatever number of A380s.
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:42 am

What's the difference between a 490-514 plane with 3-class and a 644 plane with only 2 classes? Will economy be significantly different? I wouldn't have thought so.

So what's the problem?
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:42 am

Quoting Juan911411 (Reply 1):

I guess all the talk of casino, bars and hair salons are off the table. lol. but for real how long will it take to put in 644 people on an airplane????

If they board on both floors it should be like boarding a 340 and a 777, I can't imagine that it would be that hard.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:46 am

Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 3):
Quoting Juan911411 (Reply 1):
I guess all the talk of casino, bars and hair salons are off the table. lol. but for real how long will it take to put in 644 people on an airplane????

Well the 644 pax number is only for certain ac, AF does the same to with 77W's they have a high density version with no F.

I think the lower density configurations will just conatin the 1st class "sky suites" and not things like casinos, piano bars, etc. Those all look nice in conceptual setups, but in the real world, you have to fill the spaces with paying customers
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:55 am

I'm stunned that EK will have both a 490 and a 514 seat configuration. There is not much difference in that. The scheduling inefficiencies of having an extra subfleet for such a small difference doesn't seem worthwhile to me, but EK have had ample time to run the numbers.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:56 am

Quoting Juan911411 (Reply 1):
but for real how long will it take to put in 644 people on an airplane???? any idea if the first class customers will want to board first and sit there and wait and wait, or will they just want to stick around the companies lounge just a little bit longer.

The 644 seat configuration has no first class section, so the answer to your question is: 'until they realise they should be on another plane'.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:00 am

Quoting Juan911411 (Reply 1):
I guess all the talk of casino, bars and hair salons are off the table. lol. but for real how long will it take to put in 644 people on an airplane???? any idea if the first class customers will want to board first and sit there and wait and wait, or will they just want to stick around the companies lounge just a little bit longer. Can't wait to see a A380 in person.

550 took only 25 minutes during our flight from FRA to JFK, so I assume up to 40min. it'll take.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:29 am

The Seating Plans were announced way back in 2005 , i had mentioned it in one of the "A380 Seating Threads", i had come across the same layout while doing my Project work on them.

Of course that was before an extended 12 mth delay for the A380 was known, but there seems to be no change in plans as far as seating goes.

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Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:43 am

Oh my god, 644 people....I can see it now..just after they take the trays away after your meal in economy, and everybody heads off to the toilet. You turn around and say those loving words to your partner.......I am off to the toilet, I will see you in a couple of hours!!  Big grin
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:51 am

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 13):
Oh my god, 644 people....I can see it now..just after they take the trays away after your meal in economy, and everybody heads off to the toilet. You turn around and say those loving words to your partner.......I am off to the toilet, I will see you in a couple of hours!!

smart post..... as if they don't have more toilets then an average 747.... dont worry, due to more floor space there will be ample waiting for the toilets.. there will be enough, you can go anywhere, front, back, down, up.... enough ways to move and walk..
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:53 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
Looks like we are going to have some cramped up passenger for the shorter routes like the subcontinent.

Not necessarily. Remember that thiey will have no first class on those planes. Also remember that the A380 has around 50 percent more floor space than a 744, so 644 people in an A380 equals 429 seats in a 744. That's not so bad if there's only business and economy seats on board.

Quoting Juan911411 (Reply 1):
but for real how long will it take to put in 644 people on an airplane????

In my experience, the bottleneck in the boarding process is the aisles. One person struggling to get his tax-free bags into the overhead locker can hold up 235 other passengers flying together with him on a single-aisle 757 in charter configuration.

On the A380, the passengers will be divided between four aisles. So assuming that the lower deck will carry twice as many seats as the upper deck, there will be 107 passengers per aisle on the upper deck, and 215 passengers per aisle on the lower deck. That's less than on a charter 752 and only slightly more than on a charter 738 or A321.
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:59 am

Quoting RedChili (Reply 15):
assuming that the lower deck will carry twice as many seats as the upper deck

Is not gonna happen. Latest figures show only one seat less per row for the upper deck. so it will be 9 against 10 per row.

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Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:16 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 16):
Is not gonna happen. Latest figures show only one seat less per row for the upper deck. so it will be 9 against 10 per row.

Your logic is flawed, for several reasons:

1. All figures and seat maps so far have shown eight seats per row, not nine, on the upper deck.

2. Business class will presumably go on the upper deck, probably at six-abreast, with one row's pitch equalling 1.5 rows in economy class. Thus, 12 seats in business on the upper deck will take up the same length of the plane as 30 seats in economy on the lower deck.

3. The lower deck is longer than the upper deck. There will probably be room for 70-80 economy seats in that area on the lower deck which is unusable space on the upper deck.
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:27 am

Quoting RedChili (Reply 17):
2. Business class will presumably go on the upper deck, probably at six-abreast, with one row's pitch equalling 1.5 rows in economy class. Thus, 12 seats in business on the upper deck will take up the same length of the plane as 30 seats in economy on the lower deck.

True, but here won't be an all business class upper deck. Only the front part, aftyer that it's economy again. Don't forget we're talking about a 2 class layout. I just wanted to say that a 1:2 ratio upper deck - lower deck is not going to happen on a 2 class layout.

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Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:29 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
"The more complexity you add to different configurations, the more pitfalls you set up all the way down the line," he said. "Granted, they have a big fleet, but airlines in the US, who have dedicated one fleet type to a specific route have always run into problems. What happens when an airplane gets sick?"

Don't the likes of BA already have several different 744 configurations, so it's not that unusual...
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:57 am

What is the largest seat count for a high-density 747 right now? 570? 644 is not too many more.
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:28 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 9):
I'm stunned that EK will have both a 490 and a 514 seat configuration. There is not much difference in that. The scheduling inefficiencies of having an extra subfleet for such a small difference doesn't seem worthwhile to me, but EK have had ample time to run the numbers.

I would agree (alluded to in reply 2).
But if those markets generate enough premium revenue to justify...

Is it just me, or does the a.net community seem to be more interested in EK and their A380 plans than Singapore Airlines? I'm very curious as to what the launch routes will be.  Smile


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Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:35 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 18):
True, but here won't be an all business class upper deck. Only the front part, aftyer that it's economy again

Of course, but the biz seats that will be there will take up a lot of space. Let me just crucnh some numbers for you:

Let's take the EK 77W as an example, as this is the largest two-class airplane in EK's fleet today. It's got 49 biz and 385 eco seats, which is 11.3 percent biz seats.

If we assume that the A380 will have the same proportions, then this means 73 biz seats and 571 eco seats.

Those biz seats will take up the same length of the plane as 182 eco seats on the lower deck. Add 70 eco seats on the lower deck for the space which is unused on the upper deck. We now have 252 eco seats on the lower deck. That means that there's 319 eco seats left. 319 divided by 18 seats per row means 17.72 rows. That means 17.72 x 8 = 142 seats on the upper deck, and 17.72 x 10 = 178 seats on the lower deckl.

The summary of the above calculation shows 215 seats on the upper deck, and 430 seats on the lower deck. It's exactly twice as many as on the upper deck.
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:37 am

Quoting Juan911411 (Reply 1):
Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
Emirates airline, the largest customer of Airbus A380 superjumbo aircraft, will carry a jaw-dropping 644 passengers in some of the 47 planes it has on order when it begins receiving them next year.

I guess all the talk of casino, bars and hair salons are off the table.

I dont see what all the fuss is about. There are already bars, masseuse, etc on some 747's. The shower is the one that interests me.

[Edited 2007-06-08 01:38:10]
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:29 am

I fly regularly on both 2-class and 3-class EK planes....

...their 2-class services will be for intra-Asia routes....

....here is a photo of J-class on their A332 (2-class)-seat 1K



...here is a photo of Y-class on their A332 (3-class)



here is a photo I took recently of basically an empty A332 (2-class), I've been on a few of these kinds of flights..what they do is if the flight is empty, they delay the flight and then fill it up with cargo..



Here is a photo I took a couple of months ago on their B773 (non-ER & 3-class) to LHR-remember, they have 10-across....it was basically a packed plane (8-10 seats empty)..I was fortunate to get an exit row... biggrin 

....it doesn't seem as if people complain about 10-across because the seat pitch is a whopping 34' for Y-class on their B773's....

pardon the bad photo (and the "pregnant"-looking guy-LoL!), I took it from my PDA.. Sad

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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:44 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 23):
The shower is the one that interests me.

You like recycled soap water ?

Emirates always stated they intended to use every square inch of space for seats and not for the Airbus's hyped bowling alley.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:49 am

Quoting ComeAndGo (Reply 25):
You like recycled soap water ?

Emirates always stated they intended to use every square inch of space for seats and not for the Airbus's hyped bowling alley.

You'll be surprised..... And even then there will be much more space and legroom then in a 747. ANd I know there will be something very special on EK's A380's .

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Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:50 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 9):
but EK have had ample time to run the numbers.

Well, they discuss the "11 hour" flights having 514 seats while longer flights have 490 seats. Methinks cutting 25 seats is for range?

With 47 of them, I don't think this is a problem.

Think of it this way:
CO has 16 764s, 10 762s and now 20 777s, or 46 widebodies, which is about the size of the EK fleet of A380s (assuming they get them all at once). The 762 has under 174 seats, and the 764 has 235 or 256 seats, and the 777 has 283/285 seats.

Somehow they are able to coordinate those three types and keep them all flying correctly (and that even includes the subfleet of 764s with 20J seats). It's a logistical challenge, but it's doable.

Why shouldn't EK be able to do the same thing with 47 planes? 10 A380s at 644 seats, 17 at 514 seats and 20 at 490 seats, or something like that? Just because they are all called A380 doesn't mean they all have to be completely interoperable.
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:53 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
while so-called "11-hour routes" such as Dubai-London will also have three classes and carry 514 passengers, Flanagan said.

LHR-DUB should only be around 6 or 7 hours right? So why the small difference in seats?

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Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:16 pm

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 21):
Is it just me, or does the a.net community seem to be more interested in EK and their A380 plans than Singapore Airlines? I'm very curious as to what the launch routes will be.

Personally, I'm more interested in SQ than EK. The launch route will be SIN-SYD daily.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 27):
Somehow they are able to coordinate those three types and keep them all flying correctly (and that even includes the subfleet of 764s with 20J seats). It's a logistical challenge, but it's doable.

Of course scheduling three subfleets can be done. However, it adds inefficiency.
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:36 pm

Why is everyone getting their skirts bunched up over a "jaw dropping 644 seats"?? Is not this plane designed for 800+ passengers? 644 is not close to capacity. I fail to see what the big deal is?
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:21 pm

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 2):
644 seats... (No F)

What do you mean no "F"%$#.... LOL
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:35 pm

We're still worrying ourselves over full A-380's. If it's cheap enough, pax will fly standing on their heads in the cargo bay. As for the airlines, I've not heard any of them fret over full airplanes or packed-in passengers. The interesting scenario will be when these planes go out with 202 or 83 ZZ-class people on board, which they will sometimes, and they have to install defibrillators in the Exec Offices because they aren't even making payroll.
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:19 pm

I was always under the impression that EK were going to have 700+ seats in some of their 380s and 644 is definaitely not a big deal. As they can fit 10 abreast Y in a 777, they probably won't waste the extra width of the cabin either. i personally found 10 abeast in Y in 777 with 34" pitch quite comfortable to fly in. As long as the pitch is all right, i dont care too much about the total number of pax in the tube.
that said, they are not going to use the high density config on longer flights and it's a huge relief for me as the MEL 380 would be configured with 490 seats.
I pretty much avoid 744 at all cost. the EK 380 seats sound totally reasonable to me
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:02 pm

Quoting 707lvr (Reply 32):
it's cheap enough, pax will fly standing on their heads in the cargo bay

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Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:05 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 14):
smart post..... as if they don't have more toilets then an average 747.... dont worry, due to more floor space there will be ample waiting for the toilets.. there will be enough, you can go anywhere, front, back, down, up.... enough ways to move and walk..

Oh really...thanks for telling me that!  Yeah sure
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:18 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 14):
toilets.. there will be enough, you can go anywhere, front, back, down, up

Well, I hope you can't go anywhere, or that cabin's gonna smell real bad real fast. Big grin
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:37 pm

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 2):
JXB (or will it be JXL?)

It is JXB


All of you will change your mind when you will try the EK A380 , it will be a revolution in the aviation industry  Smile
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:22 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 37):
All of you will change your mind when you will try the EK A380 , it will be a revolution in the aviation industry

I for one am very much looking forward to being able to do so.
While I think SQs new interiors are aesthetically much more pleasing than EKs SkySuite with its garish Arabian decoration overload, I'd probably still prefer to fly EK to SYD and/or CHC.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:40 pm

Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
11-hour routes" such as Dubai-London

!11 hours from DXB to LHR? Did I miss something?
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:46 pm

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 39):
11 hours from DXB to LHR? Did I miss something?

Oh really, how i missed that, it is 7 hours not 11?? is it Emirates Charmian who said that or this press release is not accurate
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:05 pm

Quoting RedChili (Reply 15):
Quoting Juan911411 (Reply 1):
but for real how long will it take to put in 644 people on an airplane????

In my experience, the bottleneck in the boarding process is the aisles. One person struggling to get his tax-free bags into the overhead locker can hold up 235 other passengers flying together with him on a single-aisle 757 in charter configuration.

you are absolutely correct. In addition, the aisles are wider than the ones found on the current aircraft, which means that when someone is taking their jacket off and putting their duty free shopping in the overhead bin, other passengers can walk by without problem. The issue raised again and again is pure scaremongering.

Now as far as hold luggage delivery is concerned, critics may have a point.

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 37):
All of you will change your mind when you will try the EK A380 , it will be a revolution in the aviation industry

Indeed, if some select an A380 seating plan as a long distance LCC, expect international travel prices (for this type of market only) to plummet. Travel around the world for less than 500 bucks anyone? You can expect this on the traditional "backpacker alley" routes....
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:08 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 40):
Oh really, how i missed that, it is 7 hours not 11?? is it Emirates Charmian who said that or this press release is not accurate

The "11 hour" plane might not have crew rest (or the same amount of crew rest) that they'll need for the very long haul planes. That could probably account for the difference in seating if they have decided to put cabin crew rest in the Y cabin instead of in the hold.
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:33 pm

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 39):
!11 hours from DXB to LHR? Did I miss something?

They're taking the shortcut via BOM!  Smile

Seriously, they probably mean that the two different configurations will operate on flights "up to 11 hours" and flights of "more than 11 hours." LHR-DXB would be in the "up to 11 hours" category.
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:34 pm

Quoting Jlb (Reply 42):
That could probably account for the difference in seating if they have decided to put cabin crew rest in the Y cabin instead of in the hold.

The WhaleJet doesn't have enough cargo space to put crew rest there. The normal crew rest space on the WhaleJet is all the way aft on the upper deck.
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:00 pm

I can understand the no First Class version for serving India and 3 hour regional routes. 490 & 514 seem very close with First Class, it seems to me the difference is less First on the 514 version with more BIZ Class. We are holding out to see teh Singapore verison coming this fall and me, Qantas.
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:02 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 45):
490 & 514 seem very close with First Class, it seems to me the difference is less First on the 514 version with more BIZ Class.

Or EK will not put the private cabins in F on both versions, which would take up more floor space - kinda like the A345 vs. the 77W now.
 
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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:32 pm

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 20):
What is the largest seat count for a high-density 747 right now? 570? 644 is not too many more.

Have you ever been in a 747 w 570 seats?

Guess not, cuz they are the mother of all sardin cans, A380 wont have any problem w 644 seat config

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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:45 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 37):

All of you will change your mind when you will try the EK A380 , it will be a revolution in the aviation industry

I'll go negative on the A380?  Wink

Seriously, the only thing I don't understand is the 3 seating versus two. The 644 and 515 seat versions make sense. I'd like to know if the 490 seat version is required to regain enough cargo payload for route economics? Idle speculation or truly for premium seat demand?

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RE: Emirates Unveils A380 Seat Plan

Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:04 am

Can you imagine 644 clearing customs at JFK on top of the usual arrivals, just how friendly are those
imigration people going to be then? NEXT ! !
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