WetleaseWill
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Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:46 am

I just saw an FAA document that outlines their ruling on AirMidwest stopping service to most of their Beech 1900 locations. The FAA intervened as all of the locations within this documetn are subsidized by EAS programs. Does anyone know what Air Midwest is doing? Are they going to do away with their turbo props?
 
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:51 am

Do you think this may have to do something with an earlier problem with the 1900s I believe it was cracks in the wing spar?
 
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:01 am

Quoting Paladin87 (Reply 1):
Do you think this may have to do something with an earlier problem with the 1900s I believe it was cracks in the wing spar?

 Confused Are you thinking of Chalks running the Mallards?

Air Midwest did have a problem with a 1900 probably 6 years ago or more now down at CLT. But that had to do with faulty maintenance and being out of WB limits, not a wing spar. And like I said it was 6 years ago.
 
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Paladin87 (Reply 1):
Do you think this may have to do something with an earlier problem with the 1900s I believe it was cracks in the wing spar?

They are ending Beech operations for a number of reasons. One is from a profit standpoint (or lack thereof) the other being the pilot shortage. MAG is also having pilot retention issues and intends to use the AMW pilots over at Mesa and Freedom. I have heard rumors of a sale of the assets of Air Midwest to another Beech operator.

Mesa Will Be Pulling Out Of UT And NV EAS Early posted Fri May 25 2007 21:43:04 by Goldenshield
Air Midwest And US Airways At Kansas City posted Thu May 24 2007 15:34:01 by MasseyBrown
Air Midwest Drops EAS Flights To VIS/MCE/ELY posted Tue May 22 2007 21:26:59 by FATFlyer
 
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:31 am

How long until they actually start pulling the aircraft from the schedule? Are any of the routes going to be re-instated by US? Is Gulfstream likely to take over?
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:38 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 2):

Actually it was last year ad#2006-18-51
 
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:49 am

Quoting Paladin87 (Reply 1):
Do you think this may have to do something with an earlier problem with the 1900s I believe it was cracks in the wing spar?



Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 2):
Are you thinking of Chalks running the Mallards?

Air Midwest did have a problem with a 1900 probably 6 years ago or more now down at CLT. But that had to do with faulty maintenance and being out of WB limits, not a wing spar. And like I said it was 6 years ago.



Quoting Paladin87 (Reply 5):
Actually it was last year ad#2006-18-51

Paladin is correct, there was a mandatory FAA inspection of Beech 1900s for cracks in the wing spar. Skyway had two aircraft sidelined as a result of the inspection, one was repaired and returned to service, the other I believe was repaired as well, but did not return to service as it was the next aircraft due to be sold off anyway.

I had heard of several aircraft "down South" being grounded due to the cracks, perhaps ZV was the carrier most affected?

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 3):
I have heard rumors of a sale of the assets of Air Midwest to another Beech operator.

I wonder if Great Lakes would acquire such assets to facilitate their expansion into the Midwestern EAS markets. There has been very little news from them as of late with regards to starting their new routes (the former RegionsAir markets out of STL and the current Skyway markets out of MKE)
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:01 pm

They actually wanted to pull ouf several right away, but the FAA wont permit it. Here is the link to the ruling http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf101/470068_web.pdf
 
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:05 pm

I believe you mean DOT will not permit it...

will be interesting to see how the EAS landscape changes.
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:16 pm

Interesting....wonder if these cities would be switched over to STL by Great Lakes dba American Connection? American provides a lot more connections out of there than US does at MCI. Or could Great Lakes come in and operate the flights as Midwest Connect to MCI? By the way does anyone have any info on the status of the Great Lakes/American Connection flights to STL? They weer awarded some of the eas contracts after RegionsAir shut down, but no news since.
 
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:20 pm

This sucks. My bes freind lives in Omaha and I try to use US as much as I can to Non rev so there goes my access to Omaha the easy and free way. Looks like I will be paying ZED fares to Midwest Airlines from DCA to go to Omaha for now on.
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:25 pm

OK.. so where does it say RDU-CHS/ORF will be dropped?
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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:27 pm

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4):
Is Gulfstream likely to take over?

I have heard that Gulfstream is taking over Air Midwest. Some pilots I know say the rumor mill has it down pretty much as an almost done deal. If this is indeed true, the question left is whether 3M would take over the routes that Air Midwest was flying or if they would take them down to their Florida and Bahama operations. Gulfstream has a good operation down there, just not enough airplanes to make a decent number of runs into all the cities it serves(except EYW).

Gulfstream already has a few YV aircraft, painted in standard 3M colors, instead of the CO Connection colors that most of the other B1900's and Brasilia's carry.



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RE: Air Midwest Pulling Out

Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:11 am

I know that Athens is tasked with finding their own replacement. Not sure how it works in other cities. If they dont find the replacement by May 2008...they will lose their air service. That assumes the DOT does not extend its ruling even further.

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