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DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:02 pm

Hey I know DL Connection out of LAX is all going to be by ExpressJet, but how about any other stations in SoCal or anywhere else where DL might wanna add these services. I think in SOCAL, they should come into LGB. They have the open slots, and it would be a good market for people who cant drive to LAX cause the distance and nobody else goes to some of those destinations. OKC, TIJ, etc.... What do you guys think of this. Is it a consideration.
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:26 pm

ExpressJet will begin flying LAX-PHX in July 4x daily. This will be great when DL adds more International service to LAX.
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:37 pm

Quoting A380fo (Thread starter):
I think in SOCAL, they should come into LGB. They have the open slots, and it would be a good market for people who cant drive to LAX cause the distance and nobody else goes to some of those destinations.

No slots are currently available. Horizon and BAG hold the currently-unused commuter slots, and one of them will have to give them up or fail to start flights and use them in order for them to become available for ExpressJet/Delta, unless Delta were to reassign the slots they have and are currently using for the SkyWest flights to SLC.

It's 22 miles driving from LGB to LAX. Driving distance isn't an issue that will pull traffic from LAX.
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:40 pm

I know but most likely BAG wont follow through and they have 17. Me personally its a hassle to drive to LAX when LGB is 2 mins away and LGB doesnt fly to the destinations i go weekly. From everyone i know around here it would be a good rumor according to peoples comments
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:24 pm

Quoting A380fo (Reply 3):
From everyone i know around here it would be a good rumor according to peoples comments

That's the problem. It's ONLY people around where you live: more than 15 miles from LAX and less than 10 from LGB, or much closer to LGB than SNA. Otherwise, for EVERYONE else in LA, LAX, SNA, BUR and ONT are equally easy to get to or much easier.

I don't think your catchment area can support tons of flights on it's own. It would have to be combined with lower cost to get people to drive there, and since LGB is so limited in slots but still in an expensive location to operate, lower costs to consumers are not likely going to be profitable.
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:35 pm

Oh well, in my opinion i think it would be a good idea and not just for me. Not just XJet but some other airlines. LGB is a great market, look at B6 but no one is pursuing it! LAME!
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:11 pm

Others would pursue it, but it's not a very big facility, and there's a major slot problem.

Didn't AA fly 75s or A300s JFK-LGB at some point?

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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:08 am

They flew 75s to LAX and MDs to DFW. And with the slot position..right now BAG has some slots (17 our of 25) and QX has an unknown number but theyre are still open ones, about 4. And from what i hear, BAG wont be able to follow through...so probably 21.
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:13 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 1):
ExpressJet will begin flying LAX-PHX in July 4x daily. This will be great when DL adds more International service to LAX.

Just thought of something. Would DL be able to launch LAX-TUS with ExpressJet with ExpressJet independently operating ONT-TUS?
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:18 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 8):
Just thought of something. Would DL be able to launch LAX-TUS with ExpressJet with ExpressJet independently operating ONT-TUS?

That could happen although I don't think Delta wants to mess with Southwest and United on the route wehn Southwest has 6 Daily and United has 5 Daily.



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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:19 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 1):
ExpressJet will begin flying LAX-PHX in July 4x daily. This will be great when DL adds more International service to LAX.

I'd like to see how quickly US retaliates. Good luck to DL.

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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:50 am

Quoting RedTailDTW (Reply 9):
That could happen although I don't think Delta wants to mess with Southwest and United on the route wehn Southwest has 6 Daily and United has 5 Daily.

Well just so you know Delta is messing with UA, WN, AS, AA, and US in the following markets~

LAX-BOI ~ 1x ERJ
LAX-DEN ~ 4x ERJ
LAX-GEG ~ 1xERJ
LAX-ICT ~ 1x ERJ
LAX-LAS ~ 1x ERJ, 1x 738
LAX-OAK ~ 4x ERJ
LAX-PDX ~ 2x ERJ
LAX-PHX ~ 4x ERJ
LAX-RNO ~ 1x ERJ
LAX-SEA ~ 1x ERJ, 1 x738
LAX-SFO ~ 6x ERJ
LAX-SMF~ 4x ERJ
LAX-SJC ~ 4x ERJ

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 10):
I'd like to see how quickly US retaliates. Good luck to DL.

They have ha a chance to retaliate and are not in fear of a few flights to LAS, and PHX.

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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:05 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 10):
Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 1):
ExpressJet will begin flying LAX-PHX in July 4x daily. This will be great when DL adds more International service to LAX.

I'd like to see how quickly US retaliates. Good luck to DL.

US retaliating wouldn't have much effect; WN is the dominant carrier between LAX and PHX with 63% share in the market.

Quoting A380fo (Reply 3):
Me personally its a hassle to drive to LAX when LGB is 2 mins away and LGB doesnt fly to the destinations i go weekly.

So it makes sense to spend an extra 60-90 minutes (minimum) in transit and connect at LAX instead of getting in your car and driving there? Just take America West/US to PHX and connect there if you can't deal with the drive to LAX.
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:13 am

Just curious, what airline is BAG?
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:05 pm

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 13):
Just curious, what airline is BAG?

They're a company based near Las Vegas and want to offer service to various short haul markets from LGB. Flights are to be operated by Island Air (from Hawaii) using Dash 8-100/200 and Q400. Last I heard they still had their slots.

Quoting A380fo (Reply 7):
And with the slot position..right now BAG has some slots (17 our of 25) and QX has an unknown number but theyre are still open ones, about 4.

BAG has 17, Delta has 4, Horizon has 3, and US Airways has 1. None available.
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:58 pm

No they opened up 25 slots...17 for bag and i guess 4 for QX but i know they have open slots!
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:17 am

Quoting A380fo (Reply 15):
No they opened up 25 slots...17 for bag and i guess 4 for QX but i know they have open slots!

Not at this time. They are all being held by the airlines listed by Hawaiian717. That adds up to 25 commuter slots.

From the Long Beach Airport's activity report in Feb.

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LGB airport had 41 allocated air carrier flight slots- Alaska (5), US Airways/America West (4), JetBlue (28), Airborne (1), FedEx (1), UPS (2) and 5 allocated commuter carrier flight slots - US Airways/America West (1), Delta (4). In addition, 20 commuter carrier flight slots- BAG (17) & Horizon (3) have been allocated & expected to start service by late this year.
http://www.longbeach.gov/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=14790

Since that report, Horizon allowed their slots to go unsecured but then reapplied for 3 slots again. So those 3 are currently tied up again. No others available until someone gives some up. BAG has submitted a check to hold their slots.
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:09 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 16):
Not at this time.

not from what i have heard....


BUT..if there were open slots, would DL-ExpressJet come in?
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:46 am

Quoting A380fo (Reply 17):
not from what i have heard....

Well that is only true if someone gives up a slot that is already spoken for.

So who are you hearing that is going to give up slots?  listen  There are ALWAYS lots of rumors but unless you have a good source all we can do is wait and see.

Quoting A380fo (Reply 17):
BUT..if there were open slots, would DL-ExpressJet come in?

ExpressJet flying as DL? No.

It would only happen if they take over SLC-LGB. DL/DLConn would not do point to point out of LGB, only flights to a focus city or hub.
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:27 am

Yea...have them come in and fly like den, slc, ummm anywhere else?
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:36 am

Quoting A380fo (Reply 19):
Yea...have them come in and fly like den, slc, ummm anywhere else?

SkyWest is already doing SLC-LGB for Delta. There's no reason to switch that flying to ExpressJet since Delta's ExpressJet base is just up the freeway at LAX, while SLC is SkyWest territory. Plus, JetBlue is also on the route. LGB-DEN would really only make sense for United/United Express or Frontier since they've got the hub in DEN to support it.
 
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RE: DL Operated By ExpressJet--New Stations?

Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:20 am

Alright i understand now thanks