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Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:23 pm

Any insiders on here have some best guesses on DL's new aircraft purchases? With their expanding International network and seeming interest in an Asia hub at LAX, does it seem like theyre going to wait for 787s or get 777ERs or both?
 
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:33 pm

Future Fleet of DL:

Boeing 737-700
Boeing 737-800
Boeing 737-900ER
Boeing 747-800
Boeing 777-200LR
Boeing 787-300
Boeing 787-800
Boeing 787-900
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:41 pm

Well one that really stood out there was the 747-800. Granted it was YEARS ago, but considering DLs failed experiment with the 747 years ago do you think they'd go back that direction. What routes would that be used on? The 787s seem a good bet though.
 
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:47 pm

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 1):
Boeing 747-800

Don't see this one happening at all - there's no route in the Delta system that currently requires the capacity of the 747-400, let alone the -800. If Delta needs anything more than a 777-200, look for the 777-300; much easier to introduce that as a subvarient of the 777 series than introduce an entirely new variant.

Keep in mind Delta's fleet will be in transition over a period. For example, the 767-400s are no more than 5 years old - they have another 20 years in them easily. Also, the MD-88s have another 10 years in them; might not be the most fuel-efficient, but McDonnell Douglas built tanks for planes - just look at Northwest's DC-9s; 40 years old and going strong. Wouldn't be surprised if Delta holds onto these until the 737 replacement is announced. Would expect more 737s though; the 737-700 is already on order; the 737-800 is a mainstay. 737-900 ERs wouldn't shock me as a replacement of some 757s a few years down the line. 787s seem to be something that will be a when, not an if, as well.
 
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:19 pm

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 1):
Boeing 737-700
Boeing 737-800
Boeing 737-900ER
Boeing 747-800
Boeing 777-200LR
Boeing 787-300
Boeing 787-800
Boeing 787-900

737-800 and 700 are definate (they already have the 800 and the 700 is on order)
the 737-900er, maybe, depending on when DL could get these they might wait for the 737RS, depending on when this comes out.
As much as i would like to see the 747 with DL, i don't think they need a plane that big
the 777LR is obvious because it is on order
I think DL will be one of the US carriers to order the 787-300, it would be a good replacement for 767's and some 757's on domestic routes, the 800 and 900 would be good for 767-400 (mainly the 800 model) and the less dense 777-200 routes (the 900 model)
I do think the 777-300 could work its way into DL's fleet for expansion (maybe)
 
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:22 pm

I remember reading a few weeks ago that DL was looking for something in the 100 seat range such as the E-190. Any thoughts on that? It's too bad they didn't order 717s to keep that great aircraft family alive.
 
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:29 pm

B737-700
B737-800
B757-200
B767-300 until 787's arrive
B777-200ER
B777-200LR
B777-300ER
B787-800/900

[Edited 2007-06-12 07:31:28]
 
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:16 pm

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 1):
Future Fleet of DL:

Boeing 737-700
Boeing 737-800
Boeing 737-900ER
Boeing 747-800
Boeing 777-200LR
Boeing 787-300
Boeing 787-800
Boeing 787-900

I definitely cant see DL ordering nonexistent models such as 787-300 , 787-800 , 787-900 or 747-800  Wink

I can however imagine them ordering 787-8s or 787-9s . ( But I would not hold my breath for any 747-8s and I am not even that convinced about the 787-3 )

May I ask what routes you imagine the 747-8 operating for DL ?
 
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:59 pm

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 7):
May I ask what routes you imagine the 747-8 operating for DL ?

JFK-NRT, ATL-DXB, ATL-LHR. JFK-LHR, ATL-BOM, LAX-ATL, JFK-ATL, etc.
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:16 pm

DL is a two class carrier, and will not go larger than the 772. Dreams are nice, but reality is reality. No 77W, no 748.
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 8):
JFK-NRT

DL doesn't even serve that market to begin with, they sure as hell won't start it with a 748.

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 8):
ATL-DXB,

Only just started and not even daily with 772, overkill with a 748.

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 8):
ATL-LHR, JFK-LHR

To LHR, frequency is king, not capacity, and even if, DL would get 77Ws which share the cockpit with their other 777s, not 748s.

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 8):
ATL-BOM

DL is not even flying that route yet either.

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 8):
LAX-ATL, JFK-ATL

History has told us on more than one occasion that operation 747s on domestic US flights other than positioning flights is one of the worst decisions fleet/route management could do.

Face it, Delta doesn't need the 747 now, and they will not need it in the future either.
 
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RE: Best Guess On DL's New Fleet Plan

Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:08 pm

DL has no need for the 747-8. If anything, the emphasis will be on the 777 & 787 and increased frequencies for the transatlantic services.
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