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African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:57 am

African Aviation Thread Part 1 (by MD90fan Feb 21 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Part 2 is now in full effect {cool) Bit thanks to our members last time around  goldmedal 

Here some current developments


  • According to this article, Kenya is on course to CAT 1.
  • Air France has replaced the A343 flight to JNB, making it x1 772/ER and x1 773/ER.
  • Air France is introducing the Boeing 777-300/ER on the Libreville route and is looking to acquire more traffic rights for PNR and SSG.
  • Air France and Kenya Airways have announced a codeshare to Dzaoudzi.
  • Arik Air has taken delivery of it's first CRJ-200.
  • Egypt Air has earmarked Dar Es Salaam, Dakar and Lusaka for expansion before 2010.
  • Egypt Air has increased frequencies to Algiers, Kano, Khartoum, Johannesburg, Lagos and Tripoli.
  • Emirates has increased JNB to x3 daily.
  • Ethiopian Airlines and Lufthansa have signed a codeshare agreement.
  • Ethiopian Airlines has taken delivery of yet another Hainan Airlines Boeing 767-300/ER, this one being ex.B-2562.
  • Kenya Airways has took delivery of it's first EMB-170.
  • Kenya and S.Korea have a agreed on a Open Skies treaty.
  • Korean Air has announced it's intention to service JNB.
  • Mango (SAA) has been named 'Best budget airline' in Africa.
  • Precision Air (Kenya) is starting a x4 weekly JNB service.
  • Qantas has added x1 addition frequency on it's JNB service.
  • SAA has begun it's 18 month restructuring following the announcement that Paris will be dropped along with it's 6 Boeing 747-400s.
  • SAA has Egypt Air are now codesharing.
  • SN Brussels is interested in acquiring Rwandair, and has recently added service to Burundi.
  • Sudan Airways has been partially privatized, with 49% being sold to a Kuwaiti investment firm.
  • TAAG has announced that they will begin a Maputo route in the near future.
  • Virgin Atlantic's Nairobi route has begun and fares have since dropped.


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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:09 am

Pretty inclusive, MD90fan!

- Arik Air took delivery of two new B737-700's (5N-MJC and 5-MJD).
- Libyan Arab Airlines ordered 3 CRJ900's and took options on two more.
- VK's first B767 (YL-LCY) is in service now.

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Arik Air has taken delivery of it's first CRJ-200.

Nice seeing an increasing number of new aircraft in Nigeria.

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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:27 am

Does anyone know what type of feeder services Brussels Airlines has in mind when it will start moving its BAe 146-200 fleet to Pan-African Airlines later this year?
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:34 am

Cargo company Ocean Airlines of Italy are planning to start service to Luanda and Nairobi this September.
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:49 am

I have the information that HBA - Hewa Bora Airways has stop it's flight to BRU with the B767 some weeks ago (4 june). Now the code-share with Brussels Airlines.

HBA will or had sale it's new acquired B767 to the USA...


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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:58 am

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Ethiopian Airlines has taken delivery of yet another Hainan Airlines Boeing 767-300/ER, this one being ex.B-2562.

I thought I read that ET would be getting two aircraft. How many B767s does ET have now?
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:43 pm

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Quoting AF022 (Reply 5):
I thought I read that ET would be getting two aircraft. How many B767s does ET have now?

ET did get 2 763 from Hainan B-2562 and B-2561. They are both in service now, one has been registered ET-AMF I have no info on the second frame apart that it is in service with ET already. ET has10 767's in service. 9 763's and 1 762
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:44 pm

Air Ivoire flies now from Abidjan to Bordeaux (BOD) once a week with their A321. And during the D Check of this aircraft, they will lease a B757 from Air Slovakia.
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:41 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 4):
HBA will or had sale it's new acquired B767 to the USA...

Does this mean they will fly to the US?
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:45 am

Quoting AF022 (Reply 8):
Does this mean they will fly to the US?

No. They have a buyer in the USA (sale 12 million USD).
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:11 pm

Does anyone know how VS is doing on their LHR-NBO route?

Yes the route is lucrative but with KQ,BA, EK and VS serving the route with daily flights, I think there is alot of overcapacity!
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:42 pm

One of the 343s is back at SAA from Jet Airways.
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:40 pm

Quoting Viasa (Reply 4):
I have the information that HBA - Hewa Bora Airways has stop it's flight to BRU with the B767 some weeks ago (4 june). Now the code-share with Brussels Airlines.

HBA will or had sale it's new acquired B767 to the USA...

I have heard the same thing !!

The 762ER is in BRU @ Lufthansa Technik.

SN is doing a weekly flight (wetlease) for them on tuesdays but with an A330 in an old Air Madrid config so not the SN flagship product. But it's not a code-share at all.

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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:49 pm

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 2):
Does anyone know what type of feeder services Brussels Airlines has in mind when it will start moving its BAe 146-200 fleet to Pan-African Airlines later this year?

Are your sure it's Pan African Airlines? To my knowledge that is a Nigerian helicopter company owned by Bristows. However, this question was discussed here: SN In Africa, The Story Continues (by Bwest May 28 2007 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:26 am

All 3 of the SAA A343's are back at Joburg after lease to Jet Airways. The first, ZS-SXD, is in full SAA colours and will be did its test flight today. It should be in regular service by the end of the week.
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:57 am

Does anyone know how support for Bombardier,ATR and Embraer a/c is in East Africa?

I'm guessing ATR has the best maintainance base because of the number of ATR 42/72 in the region. It would be nice to see Q400's flying between NBO, EBB, DAR and MBA!
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:04 am

So the Paris Air Show is nearly over, and amidst all the big announcements of especially Airbus, there were three African operators who placed orders. All from North-Africa, unfortunately no announcements from operators from Sub-Saharan Africa.

Nouvelair:
2x A320 (firm order)

Afriqiyah Airways
5 x A320 (firm order), 6 x A350 (commitment)

Libyan Airlines
7x A320, 4 x A330, 4 x A350 (all commitments)

So something exciting is happening in Libyan aviation! LN and 8U are thus set to be the first African operators of the A350.

No direct African orders placed for Boeing, ATR, Bombardier and/or Embraer if I'm correct (though I'm hoping VK or B3 will pick up some of the 787 orders of ILFC).
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Quoting SAA201 (Reply 14):
All 3 of the SAA A343's are back at Joburg after lease to Jet Airways.

I'm very surprised that all three are back at the sime time.
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:06 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 16):
unfortunately no announcements from operators from Sub-Saharan Africa

Considering how shoddily the big manufacturers treat operators from Sub-Saharan Africa, I can't say I'm particularly surprised. Bombardier and Embraer are making a lot of effort to woo the smaller operators in Sub-Saharan Africa though and their products are ideally suited to the market as well.
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:40 pm

What is Air Tanzania up to now? SAA have pulled out, haven't they? ATC are left with three 737-200s (yech!) so where do they go from here?
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:31 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 17):
I'm very surprised that all three are back at the sime time.

They arrived in the order and co-inciding with the dates that they were leased out, approx a month between the first and last.
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:30 am

Where are the pics of the new Kenya Airways 170?
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:37 am

Quoting 787kq (Reply 21):
Where are the pics of the new Kenya Airways 170?

Someone posted them on a thread but it looks like it got deleted.

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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:41 am

Quoting Airbuske (Reply 22):
Quoting 787kq (Reply 21):
Where are the pics of the new Kenya Airways 170?

Someone posted them on a thread but it looks like it got deleted.

Copyrights issue, here is the link: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=&picid=3864
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:31 am

Would the KQ E170 fly with Kenya Airways (mainline) or with Flamingo Airlines?
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:43 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 24):
Would the KQ E170 fly with Kenya Airways (mainline) or with Flamingo Airlines?

I think KQ, as they are supposed to replace the Saab 340's.
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:08 am

Tuninter from Tunisia will recieve its first ATR72-500 on the 7th July. At that date the company will change its name and livery to Seven Air. On the 25th of the same month it will recieve a CRJ900. This is according to a Tunisian website. Can anyone confirm this? I tried to find ATRs and CRJs order list but could not find them on the internet.

Tunisair is going to order 7 to 10 aircraft this year and is going to decide between the A350 or the B777.

Tunisair launched new routes to Bahrain and Kuwait. It is rumoured to start a new route to Tehran which should be exciting.
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:02 am

Hi,

Air Algerie launched its flights to YUL, with the inaugural flight happening on June 15.

I heard from a buddy of mine at ALG, that LX is looking into starting a ZHR-ALG route. He also said that Transavia will start flights to ALG from AMS later this year.

Air Algerie is looking into the possibility of starting a 2x weekly ALG-PEK route.

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Air France is introducing the Boeing 777-300/ER on the Libreville route and is looking to acquire more traffic rights for PNR and SSG.

Is there really that much demand for Libreville? Also, what do AF operate in to Point-Noire and Malabo?

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Egypt Air has increased frequencies to Algiers, Kano, Khartoum, Johannesburg, Lagos and Tripoli.

What are MS frequencies to ALG now?

All exciting stuff for Africa! It's awesome!

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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:20 am

Quoting AH332 (Reply 27):
Is there really that much demand for Libreville?

Considering Air Gabon is bankrupt and the replacement "Gabon Airlines" not yet fit, I think the demand is there

also for Transavia to ALG wouldnt it be better if they flew from ORY?? more Algerians in Paris than in AMS I think
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:43 am

Quoting PM (Reply 19):
What is Air Tanzania up to now? SAA have pulled out, haven't they? ATC are left with three 737-200s (yech!) so where do they go from here?

I see Air Tanzania eventually being bought by Precision Air. They are slowly expanding in this market and i think that in time they might become big in the East African market.

The Tanzanian game parks are being more and more discoverd and the frequent connections from Europe, KL, LX BA and the gulf airlines are putting a huge capacity in this market. Precisonair should make sure that thier flights coincide with the arrival of these flights so that the tourists can fly directly to the game parks.
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:39 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 24):
Would the KQ E170 fly with Kenya Airways (mainline) or with Flamingo Airlines?

Kenya Flamingo Airways ceased operations in 1993 if I'm not mistaken. And yes, the E170's will be used to replace the existing Saab 340b's. I'm really going to miss them!!  Sad
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:48 am

Quoting DALCA (Reply 29):
I see Air Tanzania eventually being bought by Precision Air. They are slowly expanding in this market and i think that in time they might become big in the East African market.

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Although when it comes to the East African market, it's probably going to be a race between Precision Air and Fly540, though I feel PW might have the upper edge since they have been there for longer and offer KQ connection (KQ has 49% stake in Precision.)
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:19 pm

Quoting AH332 (Reply 27):
Is there really that much demand for Libreville? Also, what do AF operate in to Point-Noire and Malabo?

Oil and Gas.

Quoting Varig md-11 (Reply 28):
Considering Air Gabon is bankrupt and the replacement "Gabon Airlines" not yet fit

Has this new company started flying by now? I saw their website is working.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:40 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 16):
No direct African orders placed for Boeing, ATR, Bombardier and/or Embraer if I'm correct (though I'm hoping VK or B3 will pick up some of the 787 orders of ILFC).

Not 100% correct. Precision Air Services ordered one additional ATR42-500.
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:36 pm

KL577
apparently it is flying with a rented 757
I wish it was more reliable than the old GN and it's president Leon M'Ba 742 COMBI!!!!!

Numéro de Vol GY804
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Jour d'arrivée 28/06/2007 06:35
Aérogare d'arrivée CDG 1
Type d'avion BOEING 757-200 PASSENGER
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:15 pm

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Emirates has increased JNB to x3 daily.

Not entirely correct. Emirates fly to JNB 18x weekly.

EK761/762 and EK763/764 are daily. The new flight EK765/766 is operated 4 times a week.

Gulf Air have also ceased operations to JNB.

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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:45 pm

Virgin Nigeria took delivery of a 2nd B767-300 (YL-LCZ, operated by Lat Charter). The remaining A340 will be returned to Virgin Atlantic shortly.


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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:51 pm

Quoting Varig md-11 (Reply 34):
apparently it is flying with a rented 757
I wish it was more reliable than the old GN and it's president Leon M'Ba 742 COMBI!!!!!

But the initial phase doesn't speak well for them. With RAM sent back to Morocco and the appointment of president Bongo's son as CEO. Anyway, it's a pity that 747 isn't around anymore. Air Afrique and CamAir were exciting sights at CDG those days, but that Air Gabon jumbo was truly exotic.

Now we're at it, does CamAir still make it to Paris these days?
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:18 am

Quoting KL577 (Reply 37):
With RAM sent back to Morocco and the appointment of president Bongo's son as CEO

I think exactly the same....RAM is a good African airline and it would have been a chance, but old habits are stronger!!!
the old combi was for sure exotic
I saw its end when it was torn down in Vatry....much less exotic and sad
the Air Afrique collection of A300 and A310 was fun too

Camair has disapeared for good last year and was supposed to be replaced by a joint venture with SN brussels called Delta air transport....but I don't know what happened
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:13 am

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 33):
Precision Air Services ordered one additional ATR42-500.

Do you happen to have a link?

There isn't any indication of a PW order at Le Bourget according to this EADS document.

http://www.eads.com/1024/es/investor.../20070618_atr_le_bourget_2007.html
 
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Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:17 am

Quoting Varig md-11 (Reply 38):
Camair has disapeared for good last year and was supposed to be replaced by a joint venture with SN brussels called Delta air transport....but I don't know what happened

No, this project is dead also. Apparently the Cameronian government is planning to relaunch the privatization process and organize a new bidding round. But who is going to bid again, after they messed up the previous session so badly?
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:19 am

Quoting Varig md-11 (Reply 38):
RAM is a good African airline

They double their flights from 3 to 6 weekly on CMN-ACC during the summer season.
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:28 am

Quoting KL577 (Reply 40):
Apparently the Cameronian government is planning to relaunch the privatization process and organize a new bidding round. But who is going to bid again, after they messed up the previous session so badly?

if I wanted to invest in Cameroun for an airline, I would wait for every gvt plan to die and then come up with a fresh purely private initiative...UY was run exactly like Air Afrique which means everything

Quoting Soups (Reply 41):
They double their flights from 3 to 6 weekly on CMN-ACC during the summer season.

RAM seems to have great success in West Africa since they are one of the cheapest combined with reliability which was unknowned till now
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting Varig md-11 (Reply 42):
RAM seems to have great success in West Africa since they are one of the cheapest combined with reliability which was unknowned till now

Well they had ads around Accra for $500 ACC-USA.... excellent fare! however their takeoff/landing times in ACC are Horrible
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:50 am

Quoting Varig md-11 (Reply 42):
if I wanted to invest in Cameroun for an airline, I would wait for every gvt plan to die and then come up with a fresh purely private initiative...

Which is probably the best way to make sure the President and his family don't use the planes for shopping trips to Paris or London (as happened a lot with UY).
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:00 am

Quoting KL577 (Reply 44):
to make sure the President and his family don't use the planes for shopping trips to Paris or London (as happened a lot with UY).

well at least they (along with all diplo passports and ministers + sub-ministers and attachés...) could use the 1st class, except they would have to PAY this time  Wink lol

Quoting Soups (Reply 43):
Well they had ads around Accra for $500 ACC-USA

RAM is also selling a CDG-COO via CMN at around 500€ against minimum 750€ with AF: but their schedule is horrible indeed as you must fly COO-CMN leg at 3.00am
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting Airbuske (Reply 30):
Kenya Flamingo Airways ceased operations in 1993 if I'm not mistaken.

But there is an airline that call Flamingo Airlines (formerly known as Kenya Flamingo Airways). It is a subsidiary of Kenya Airways and both Saab 340 operate in full KQ colors (on a franchise agreement).


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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:13 am

Quoting Viasa (Reply 46):
But there is an airline that call Flamingo Airlines (formerly known as Kenya Flamingo Airways). It is a subsidiary of Kenya Airways and both Saab 340 operate in full KQ colors (on a franchise agreement).

Sorry, I never completed what I wanted to say.

KQ bought Kenya Flamingo Airways in 1993 . The aircraft and crew acquired flew under the KQ livery but as KQ's subsidiary - Flamingo Airlines. And Flamingo Airlines was dissolved/phased out by mid/late 2004 after Kenya Airways began implementing a major structural overhaul.
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:49 am

First Central Asian airline to serve Africa Uzbekistan Airways Starting Cairo And Milan (by 777way Jun 28 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: African Aviation Thread Part 2

Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:25 am

Some good news from Angola. This is a first picture of Son Air's new Boeing 737-700, test-flying at BFI.

Picture link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/65483667@N00/671027401/

Is Son Air actually operating scheduled services in Angola, or is it only involved in charter, and (oil) business flights? I recall they have some arrangement for weekly flights to IAH.