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Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:44 pm

From the first Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread we now move to part 2 as with over 350 replies those on dial up connections will be having problems downloading

Airbus have kept us very busy, as has the rest of the sector. The elongated order cycle appears to continue unabated.

We will continue to run 3 threads and this, again, is for Airbus http://www.airbus.com/en/

http://www.airbus.com/en/myairbus/events/ and http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre/pressreleases/

We ask that you refer to the following 2 links for Boeing and Powerplants

Official: Boeing Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread

Official: Le Bourget 2007 Engine Order Thread

The purpose of these three threads is to keep a daily tabulation on any announcements made and to keep seperate each companies announcements. Though we understand there will be split orders, having the official threads should make it a lot easier to track orders for each OEM and make for a good reference for the future of the site.

We do realise that there may / will be major "mega orders" announced given speculation over the past six months and recent media reports. Therefore, if an order is announced and listed here, for example, by a U.S. Legacy carrier, a new A380 Operator, a European Major or by a carrier of regional or strategic importance, it should be entitled to it's own seperate thread, we ask that order be posted here with a link to the relevent thread and a link back to this thread, that way a free and open discussion can be had on AA, EK, LA or whomever, without overwhelming the official threads.

Commitments and orders listed here can be referred to 2007 Orders: Part 2 or to the relevent country thread for some carriers, for example Malaysian Aviation Thread 4 In relation to the country threads there are plenty of "lurkers" who know a lot but post only in those threads as their posts don't warrant a seperate thread. We all can benefit from that input.

Another thread to refer to would be Airbus A330 - Close To Breaking Sales Record. given the amount of commitments we have seen for that model

In relation to Regional orders such as ATR, Bombardier, Embraer and Sukhoi etc or any developments of new frames or further news of R&D in existing projects please feel free to go ahead and post as normal.

As stated the elongated order cycle continues and the previous thread was very successful and we would like to thank the membership for their participation.

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:47 pm

Assuming the other thread gets locked, here's my last post from the old one:

Airbus summary after 3 days:

Monday 18th
Qatar - 80 x A350, 3 x A380
Emirates - 8 x A380
Jazeera - 30 x A320
US Airways - 60 x A32x, 10 x A332*, 22 x A350**
Nouvelair - 2 x A320
GECAS - 60 x A320
ALAFCO - 7 x A320, 12 x A350***
Air France - 18 x A320, 2 x A380
S7 - 25 x A320

Tuesday 19th
Intrepid - 20 x A332F
Fly Asia Express - 15 x A333
Thai - 8 x A333

Wednesday 20th
Etihad - 5 x A332, 3 x A332F, 4 x A346
Aeroflot - 5 x A321, 22 x A350
Kingfisher - 20 x A320, 10 x A332, 5 x A345, 15 x A350+
Afriqiyah - 5 x A320, 6 x A350
Aircastle - 15 x A332F
Libyan Airlines - 7 x A320, 4 x A330, 4 x A350
CIT - 25 x A320, 7 x A350++
Ural Airlines - 5 x A320
MNG - 2 x A332F

Summary by type:
A32x - 269
A330 (including F) - 92
A340 - 9
A350 - 168
A380 - 13

[edit - Added MNG order above, nothing below edited]

My total, from all above is 549 (37 of which are A350 to XWB "conversions"). However, this is actually one more than Leahy said at the CIT press conference. I don't know where the difference is!

So, at the end of three days, Airbus has (by my count) 512 new orders and commitments, of which 243 are for widebodies. Leahy gave the firm vs MOU count as 358 - 190 (again, one less than my count).

* has option to convert to A333 or A340
** includes 20 conversions of existing A350 order to XWB
*** includes 12 conversions of existing A350 order to XWB
+ plus 5 conversions of existing A350 order to XWB
++ includes 5 conversions of existing A350 order to XWB

[Edited 2007-06-20 17:14:53]
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:47 pm

Can somebody list all the orders for today and also for the week starting monday.

thanks

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Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:50 pm

Malaysia's TV3 8 pm news revealed that AK has purchased an additional 20 A320s for their operation in South East Asia. The business deal was regarded as very 'spontaneous' and only took about 15 minutes to be agreed upon. Has any announcement regarding this being issued out?

And that just bring AK's future total number of A320 fleet to 120 aircrafts.
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:51 pm

Great news for the A340 !!! I am happy to see new A345 and A346 being ordered !!
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:51 pm

Just a little applause here...

PanAm_DC10: thanks for keeping these threads consistent, fair, and accurate. I think everyone is thankful for your efforts...especially pulling this week's events together.



Back on topic:

I'm starting to wonder if interest in the A318 has past. Besides LANChile (I believe), I haven't heard anything. Anybody know more?
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:53 pm

From part one:

"Next announcement will be 10.00am CET on Thursday (first of several on Thursday), in addition, Leahy said there would be one on Friday morning."

I have this feeling that the one on Friday morning is one to look out for. I say so for two reasons:

-Last year at Farnborough, they also saved their biggest surprise for the last day (SQ);
-The fact that they announce the announcement two days in advance seems to signify that they think it's important...
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:58 pm

Quoting DIA (Reply 5):
Just a little applause here...

PanAm_DC10: thanks for keeping these threads consistent, fair, and accurate.

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:01 am

Quoting KL808 (Reply 2):
Can somebody list all the orders for today and also for the week starting monday.

See reply #1.  wink 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:02 am

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 6):
"Next announcement will be 10.00am CET on Thursday (first of several on Thursday), in addition, Leahy said there would be one on Friday morning

Hopefully AB will announce a big Airbus order..

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:08 am

MNG has signed an order for 2 x A332F plus one option. Apparently this is confirmation of an MOU signed in January.

Only seen on Airbus widget so far.
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:08 am

MNG airlines +2 A330-200F has to be added to today's list.
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:14 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 9):
Hopefully AB will announce a big Airbus order..

Well AB denied it. Could LH make up their minds by Friday?
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:15 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 1):
Leahy gave the firm vs MOU count as 358 - 190 (again, one less than my count).

That's interesting, thanks for putting that list together. Airbus had already 188 orders booked in 2007 before the airshow started, these 358 would bring the total to 546. Mr. Gallois said yesterday that he expect more then 600 firm orders by the end of the year, including more then 20 A380s. He also expected to have more then 200 A350XWB's by the end of the year (I suppose including conversions). A very carefull estimate indeed if they have indeed racked up 546 orders so far.

How many firm orders for widebody aircraft did they book today? Yesterday evening they had 163 orders for widebodies so far this year. I suppose the orders for CIT, Aircastle, Etihad and Aeroflot are firm, that would mean another 51 widebodies for a total of 214, breaking the previous record of 2005 with a wide margin and 6 months spare.
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:16 am

Quoting Danny (Reply 12):
Could LH make up their minds by Friday?

About what? The A350? Very much doubt it.
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:31 am

Scorpio

Probably the announcement on Friday will be a BIG surprise coming from the Gulf.............
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:32 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 1):
Leahy gave the firm vs MOU count as 358 - 190 (again, one less than my count).

Just who does he think he is? Everybody knows Airbus always disguises commitments as firm orders. Its a bonafide fact!  Wink
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:40 am

This show is looking like this picture, impressively going up with the orders.

http://www.airbus.com/en/airbuslive/...2007/img/getOptionMedia.htm?id=717

Quoting FCKC (Reply 16):
Probably the announcement on Friday will be a BIG surprise coming from the Gulf.............

I hope thats true... cant wait. Would love to see more A350 orders from new customers.

edit: spelling

[Edited 2007-06-20 17:42:38]
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:42 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 1):
My total, from all above is 549 (37 of which are A350 to XWB "conversions"). However, this is actually one more than Leahy said at the CIT press conference. I don't know where the difference is!

So, at the end of three days, Airbus has (by my count) 512 new orders and commitments, of which 243 are for widebodies. Leahy gave the firm vs MOU count as 358 - 190 (again, one less than my count).

It's been an astounding three days for Airbus. Between the orders and commitments, they should be near caught up with Boeing's orders and commitments, if not a bit ahead. While many expected Airbus to do well because they and their customers generally prefer to try and announce deals at air shows, I think this haul is beyond what most expected or even hoped, if an Airbus Aficionado.

Boeing's been downright weak this show, but then they had a large order book coming in and will no doubt continue to add to it afterwards (especially if DL and/or AA pull the trigger on there respective three-figure rumors), so I don't think the Boeing Boosters need to worry.
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:59 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 18):
Between the orders and commitments, they should be near caught up with Boeing's orders and commitments, if not a bit ahead.

FWIW Boeing has probably 506 firm (297 widebodies (including 36 767s)) orders now (provided that all Airshow announcements are firm and taken into account that some of those were booked as UFO's) and Airbus has now 548 firm orders (216 widebodies). But we'll probably need to wait for Airbus' ordersheet update at the beginning of next month to know the exact total.
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:09 am

Hey to Alphafloor, since the other thread is locked, the 17-40L lens is working brilliantly, tons of cabin pictures to be posted soon. Well, the day is over now, I'm heading home! Incrdible day for airbus again!!
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:12 am

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:12 am

just fresh off the wires:

Flyington to order another 6 A332Fs

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...tems/07_06_20_flyington_a330f.html
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:12 am

Flyington Freighters have order 6 more A332Fs it should be on their website, option conversion I believe

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Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:16 am

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 23):
Flyington Freighters have order 6 more A332Fs it should be on their website, option conversion I believe

hah, beat you by 6 seconds  Wink
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:17 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 18):
so I don't think the Boeing Boosters need to worry.

At this rate of ordering, the biggest worry is going to be for the supply chain...........  Smile

Quoting DIA (Reply 5):
PanAm_DC10: thanks for keeping these threads consistent, fair, and accurate. I think everyone is thankful for your efforts...especially pulling this week's events together.

May I echo this. Great work PanAm_DC10 (all the mods in fact)
I think the a-net coverage has been very well controlled this weeks.
I guess thanks also have to go to all us A-netters for that, too.  thumbsup 

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:27 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 18):
Boeing's been downright weak this show

..can't say the big 787 ILFC order was "weak"..top it off by the other orders/commitments..it's been "ok" for this show...which is how Boeing usually likes it....another 1/2 year left..

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Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:32 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 26):
..can't say the big 787 ILFC order was "weak"..top it off by the other orders/commitments..it's been "ok" for this show...which is how Boeing usually likes it....another 1/2 year left..

No it isn't, but Airbus is enjoying close to a 10:1 order and commitment advantage and has essentially negated the lead Boeing built in the previous five months in five days. And yes, there are still five more months to go and past trends should see Boeing score hundreds of additional orders over that time where Airbus likely will see much smaller volumes.
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:35 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 18):
t's been an astounding three days for Airbus. Between the orders and commitments, they should be near caught up with Boeing's orders and commitments, if not a bit ahead. While many expected Airbus to do well because they and their customers generally prefer to try and announce deals at air shows, I think this haul is beyond what most expected or even hoped, if an Airbus Aficionado.

I have to agree. While I expected Airbus would do well, I am amazed by the haul. Particularly surprised at the firming up of the SU order. It's good to see both major players having a good year so far. I'm also somewhat surprised that we haven't seen Boeing reveal a chunk of the unidentified orders yet. But there are still a couple of days to go.

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:37 am

Quoting DIA (Reply 5):
Just a little applause here...

PanAm_DC10: thanks for keeping these threads consistent, fair, and accurate. I think everyone is thankful for your efforts...especially pulling this week's events together.

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:52 am

Like many members have already expressed, I too will like to thank PanAm_DC10, for all his effort, not only this week, but constantly. His dedication and effort does not go unnoticed.

It is members like PanAm_DC10 that bring great value and respect to Airliners.net.  Smile

I have to admit that I was not at all expecting such a strong week for Airbus, and from what have been informed their will be plenty more to come.  Smile

I think that Airbus would end well the show with an announcement for a new A380 customer. I think their would not be a better candidate to fill that role than British Airways.

I'm still crossing my figures for Tap Portugal to convert their existing A350 order into the A350XWB and increase their commitment to 15-16 frames. I'm also hopeful that Tap will soon announce a fleet renewal for its short haul fleet, especially as the acquisition of Portugalia has been approved. I think it would be an appropriate time to start to phase out some of the early built A320's  Smile

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Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:23 am

So wings, fancy a bet on how many A330s we will see tomorrow?
 
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:39 am

Thanks PanAm!
This is just great!!!
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:42 am

According to Expressen a billionair at Paris Air Show bouth a VIP A380, price: 2 Bln Skr!! What´s that in $$?

http://dinapengar.se/Avdelningar/Art...2007%5c06%5c20%5c10595&o=expressen

BBC says the man are from the Middle East, his "workplace" are 900 square metres.

That´s about the most ineresting in this article.

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:42 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 27):
No it isn't, but Airbus is enjoying close to a 10:1 order and commitment advantage and has essentially negated the lead Boeing built in the previous five months in five days. And yes, there are still five more months to go and past trends should see Boeing score hundreds of additional orders over that time where Airbus likely will see much smaller volumes.

It's not 10:1. At least not yet. You can't count QR's 80 A350s as a new announcement, so just taking that out you get about 6:1. Which was to be expected based on previous Paris airshows. But the show is still going. Airbus could sell many more, and the markets haven't closed in the USA so Boeing may be waiting to announce any order from today until 5PM ET.

Also, there are 6 months left in the year, not 5, and Boeing has FIRMED nearly 500 airframes in six months through a fairly steady pace. With the typical 1/4 year of the orders being firmed in december, that puts them at about 675 frames if they don't sign anything else between now and december. But we all know there are announcements from AA, DL, BA, EK and others to expect between now and then...

I think another 900+ order year is very likely unless something dramatically negative happens.
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:59 am

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 3):
Malaysia's TV3 8 pm news revealed that AK has purchased an additional 20 A320s for their operation in South East Asia. The business deal was regarded as very 'spontaneous' and only took about 15 minutes to be agreed upon. Has any announcement regarding this being issued out?

Any more word on this?
 
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:02 am

My apologies. I thought I was in the Boeing order thread based on Stitch's question, and didn't mean to put my previous post in this one. I suggested it be deleted.

My bad!  Smile
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:10 am

I don't greatly follow all the stories and shenanigans with Boeing /Airbus, or not like I might once have done.
But airshows are different with so many announcements, often confirming and denying, much speculating before or stuff about LOI/MoU etc.

But these threads about Paris have been fascinating, kudos to the thread starter and others involved, great work and in aviation news at least, what the net was made for perhaps.
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:10 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 36):
Like many members have already expressed, I too will like to thank PanAm_DC10, for all his effort, not only this week, but constantly. His dedication and effort does not go unnoticed.

It is members like PanAm_DC10 that bring great value and respect to Airliners.net.

Second that - all the time PanAm_DC10 is on the ball and a great asset to us all!
 
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:17 am

Quoting FUN2FLY (Reply 38):
Second that - all the time PanAm_DC10 is on the ball and a great asset to us all!

Poor PanAm_DC10 deserves a rest after this week is up!
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:18 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 37):

Is BA close to ordering A380's?

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Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:26 am

Quoting KL808 (Reply 40):
Quoting GDB (Reply 37):


Is BA close to ordering A380's?

I would be very surprised to see an announcement this week.
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:36 am

Autothrust

Yes the big surprise from the Gulf will be for A350XWBs.
Can't reveal the name , as i am not really sure 100%.

Question about the A380VIP just ordered : Is this a new one , or simply a confirmation of the already announced some weeks ago ?

I remember to have read , Airbus will reveal the name at Le Bourget.Up to now , no revelation .............
We have heard of Saad Co , the owner of the so wonderful painted A340-600VIP.

I really do not see BA placing the A380 order at the show , as they said , they will announce their choice between A380 and 747-8I at the end of the year.
 
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:08 am

Air Show totals through 6/20/07

Boeing:

6 x 777F - GECAS
40 x 739ER - Lion Air (previously an Unidentified order)
52 x 787 - ILFC (2 previously an Unidentified order)
10 x 737 - ILFC
1 x 777-300ER - ILFC (previously an Unidentified order)
4 x 777-300ER - TAM
9 x 777-300ER - Air France (previously an Unidentified order)
7 x 737-700 - KLM (previously an Unidentified order)

Total Announced - 129
Net Boeing - 70 (less those already booked)

Breakdown - 737 = 57, 777 = 20, 787 = 52

Airbus:

80 x A350, 3 x A380 - Qatar Airways
60 x A320, 10 x A332, 22 x A350* - US Airways
8 x A380 - Emirates Air
30 x A320 - Jazeera Airways
2 x A320 - Nouvelair
60 x A320 - GECAS
12 x A350**, 7 X A320 - ALAFCO
25 x A320 - S7 Airways
2 x A380, 18 x A320 - Air France
5 x A321 - Aeroflot
20 x A332F - Intrepid
15 X A333 - Air Asia
8 x A333 - Thai
1 x A388 - Private Customer
5 x A332, 4 x A346, 3 x A332F - Ethiad
15 x A332F - AirCastle
7 x A350***, 25 x A320 - CIT
5 x A320 - Ural Airlines
22 x A350 - Aeroflot
5 x A320, 6 x A350 - Afriqiyah
20 x A320, 20 x A350****, 5 x A345, 10 x A332 - Kingfisher
7 x A320, 4 x A330, 4 x A350 - Libyan Airlines
2 x A332F - MNG

* 20 A350 already booked on Airbus' Order spreadsheet
** 12 A350 already booked on Airbus' Order spreadsheet
*** 5 A350 already booked on Airbus' Order spreadsheet
**** 5 A350 already booked on Airbus' Order spreadsheet
Total Airbus - 557
Net Airbus - 524
Breakdown - A320 = 269, A330 = 92, A340 = 9, A350 = 173, A380 = 14
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:10 am

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 22):
Flyington to order another 6 A332Fs

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...tems/07_06_20_flyington_a330f.html

That's 62 firm orders for the A330F so far. Absolutely amazing!
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:36 pm

Quoting FCKC (Reply 15):
Probably the announcement on Friday will be a BIG surprise coming from the Gulf.............

Gulf Air, RAK Airways (?), Air Arabia and Egyptair (I know that's not from the Gulf) are all concidering placing aircraft orders (not necesarilly all with Airbus). Yemenia has a pending order for the A350, Oman Air has a pending order for A330s. One more carrier that comes to mind is that new set up by the Dubai post (IIRC) that said it might operate a fleet of about 50 freighters.

Looking at the above options, I'd place my bet with the last one (upto 50 A332F's). Hopefully Airbus manages to conclude the deal with the Asian customer for more A380s aswell.
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:34 pm

Quoting Manni (Reply 45):
One more carrier that comes to mind is that new set up by the Dubai post (IIRC) that said it might operate a fleet of about 50 freighters.

Here's the article published 2 months ago concerning a potential 50 aircraft order.

http://www.khaleejtimes.ae/DisplayAr..._April98.xml§ion=business&col=
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:20 pm

Hi guys,

Another day starts in Paris with Avianca to order 14 A320 and 5 A330-300.
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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:26 pm

Avianca orders 14 A32X and 5 A330-200.
Out on reuters and all according to Airbus.
Ordervalue 1.9 Bln$

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RE: Official: Airbus Le Bourget 2007 Order Thread 2

Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:40 pm

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 48):
Avianca orders 14 A32X and 5 A330-200.
Out on reuters and all according to Airbus.
Ordervalue 1.9 Bln$

WOW. Was not expecting those options to be converted so soon. In the past few months I think that Avianca was one of the largest looses that Boeing faced. In a short time period Avianca a non Airbus operator has turned into one of the largest Airbus operators in South America.

It would seem that Avianca converted their options so soon due to delivery slots starting to fill up rather quickly for both the A32X and A330/A340 line.  Wink

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