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Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:23 am

It appears that Allegiant is expected to add another vacation destination this year. Because of the continued high loads it gets from its Rockford station they may get a chance at flights to that new vacation city according to a news report printed today.

I had no idea that Allegiant was considering another vacation city at all let alone this year. I am extremely happy that Rockford is filling the Allegiant aircraft so well. They were long overdue for some success.

Here is the story on that information:

Courtesy: Rockford Register Star

Rockford Airport Passenger Traffic Climbs 22% In May

http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...BUSINESS12/106200028/1002/BUSINESS
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:28 am

My guess would be MYR or Atlantic City...
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:31 am

Ill put my $$ on FLL... they can tie into cruises then too....
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:36 am

Atlantic City would be a great spot actually. Biloxi too would not be a bad bet. I know that Reno Air had a good little thing going there before AA took them over.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spo

Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:37 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
Atlantic City...



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 2):
FLL

Both great ideas. Im leaning a tad more towards a cruise destination, but i definitely would not be surprised to see Atlantic city added. Cruises brings up an interesting slew of destinations. Wouldnt G4 choose PBI instead of FLL? (Going with their "secondary" airport pattern)



Edit- I am completely shocked. I did not include a "G4 needs to start AMA" rant in that post!

[Edited 2007-06-20 22:40:02]
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:41 am

I wish ILM was it. We've been trying lure service to MCO for a while. It would hit 2 targets with 1 stone being that both ILM and MYR are big golf/vacation spots that are 45min from each other. But I know im only dreaming...lol.
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:13 am

Does anyone know how the numbers out of LAN have been? I would think that they are doing pretty well and would be in the running for a new route as well.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:22 am

Quoting ShannoninAMA (Reply 4):
Wouldnt G4 choose PBI instead of FLL? (Going with their "secondary" airport pattern)

Agreed. My first reaction is that FLL lacks space for them. But you never know...

My guesses would be RNO or ACY. Just for grins, as a wildcard surprise, perhaps something like MSY or some southern tourist/gambling hotspot.

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Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:29 am

An article yesterday about Allegiant's first year at ROA gave a clue. Talking about how ROA-SFB was such a success that the airline added ROA-PIE in months, it also said.

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Airport officials are hopeful another discount airline will choose Roanoke in the next five years. In the meantime, you can probably expect Allegiant to expand its services. There is already talk of adding another route to the Gulf Coast region.
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.as...368_2

The Gulf Coast region? I wonder where they might fly?  

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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:42 am

To add to my last reply. PBI,FLL,MIA,JAX,BTR,JAX, and any other Cruise destination. (Judging by the following)

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Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:55 am

Quoting ShannoninAMA (Reply 9):
To add to my last reply. PBI,FLL,MIA,JAX,BTR,JAX, and any other Cruise destination. (Judging by the following)

I'm thinking we might see a city actually on the Gulf.

Perhaps GPT might become a focus city. Or maybe it would be RSW.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:58 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 8):
The Gulf Coast region? I wonder where they might fly?

I agree with the possibility of RSW. I'll bet the whole airline on that guess.
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:13 am

I would guess a growing cruise port...probably with gambling....on the northern Gulf Coast .....so that some of the western cities may be able to reach it with the md80 as well as those east of the Mississippi. Galveston, Mobile, and New Orleans are all cruise ports (hmmmm incentive money for New Orleans maybe???????) Gulfport, Biloxi, TLH, and PNS are all in the are and some are very over priced...such as TLH.
 
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:39 am

Could it even remotely be CUN ? It is on the "Gulf coast"...  Smile

Of course I'd enjoy seeing MSY gain G4 services!
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:45 am

OKay.. okay.. I'll amend my guesses...

I still say MYR, Atlantic City, or Galveston, TX (isn't that the cruise port near Houston. If not whatever that place is.. that's my choice)... especially since Gulfport/Biloxi is already served...
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:30 am

I've always thought ORF would be a good fit for them. There's certainly room for another carrier (or two) at ORF - ever since Independence's departure a few years ago.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:32 am

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 11):
I agree with the possibility of RSW. I'll bet the whole airline on that guess.

I can think of a few investors who would not be happy if you made them give me the keys to the airplanes.  Wink But seriously RSW might be a good guess.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 14):
especially since Gulfport/Biloxi is already served...

GPT is currently served only as a spoke to LAS and SFB. But there is always the possibility that there would be flights TO Gulfport FROM other cities.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:26 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 10):
Or maybe it would be RSW.

Very possible...I'd see SRQ before RSW but that's a little too close to PIE.

I am look at holes in their system as far as typical "vacation" destinations run...outside the obvious of the Miami area, what about the Daytona area? Granted, it's fairly close to SFB, but still...

What about South Padre/Brownsville (BRO)? Or Mobile (MOB)?

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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:32 am

RSW would be good spot. A friend of mine just had to shell out almost $400 for a ticket there next month, too bad they weren't serving RSW. My question is though with RSW--would it compete with PIE for Florida Gulf Coast travelers? PIE and SFB seem to balance out, with SFB handling the Orlando and Daytona east coast, and PIE handling Florida Gulf Coast. Would RSW siphon off PIE travelers?

RNO would be a good guess too, a number of casinos not to mention Lake Tahoe resorts with skiing for the winter, they could do a good job marketing the Reno/Tahoe area.

GPT, alot of guesses on that one, but would it be too small?? There are some nice casinos there right now, but the area is still rebuilding from Katrina, not sure if it has become a destination yet on the level of Florida or Vegas, it may very well be down the road but not there just yet.

What about PFN or VPS? Florida panhandle is booming, Destin/Ft Walton Beach and Panama City are becoming hot spots, and a popular spot for midwesterners (especially in the winter). VPS might be good location as its smack dab in the middle of PNS and PFN. Significantly farther from PIE so wouldn't siphon away travelers from that focus city.

MYR another good option, huge resort / golf area.

Atlantic City, another potential as well.

Those are my guesses / thoughts  

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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:41 am

I am going out on a limb with this one, but I am thinking~

New Orleans

However, I would also venture to suggest the following~

Atlantic City
Biloxi
Reno
Tucson


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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:44 am

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 18):


GPT, alot of guesses on that one, but would it be too small?? There are some nice casinos there right now, but the area is still rebuilding from Katrina, not sure if it has become a destination yet on the level of Florida or Vegas, it may very well be down the road but not there just yet.

Not just to single you out as many said GPT, but I can't see many people (at least not an MD80 load per trip) wanting to vacation there. Vegas is much more of a destination than a place like GPT, GPT is more or less just a casino town. It would be like running trips to GYY for the boats in Gary and Hammond or something. I know I'd never get on a plane just to go to GPT, especially from the cities where G4 already runs LAS trips.
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:48 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 20):
Not just to single you out as many said GPT, but I can't see many people (at least not an MD80 load per trip) wanting to vacation there. Vegas is much more of a destination than a place like GPT, GPT is more or less just a casino town. It would be like running trips to GYY for the boats in Gary and Hammond or something. I know I'd never get on a plane just to go to GPT, especially from the cities where G4 already runs LAS trips.

I totally agree with you, I just don't see GPT as a destination on the same level as LAS or Florida. I would think they would have more potential focus cities out there with more demand than GPT.
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:48 am

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 19):
Tucson

I like that idea, Tucson recieves a good amount of tourists, but will that be enough for an Allegiant focus city? and also there would be sort of a gate issue.




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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:14 pm

Quoting RedTailDTW (Reply 22):
I like that idea, Tucson recieves a good amount of tourists, but will that be enough for an Allegiant focus city? and also there would be sort of a gate issue.

That is a very good question.

I think the advantage of Allegiant is they do not operate but a few routes on a daily basis, in addition they are not connecting any traffic. Thus if they wanted to operate 6 to 10 flights a day into and out of Tucson that would not require more than 1 or 2 gates. Rethinking the Tucson idea, I also have thought that Tucson although a tourist destination has much higher traffic Fall to Spring, while Summer seems to bottom out.

However, I am thinking looking at the Allegiant route map that Atlantic City may be a very good addition. This would pull to year round draw of Atlantic City. In addition this could pull additional traffic from the New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania area to fill the often remarkable airfares that customers have grown accustomed to with Allegiant.

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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:15 pm

Quoting RedTailDTW (Reply 22):
I like that idea, Tucson recieves a good amount of tourists, but will that be enough for an Allegiant focus city? and also there would be sort of a gate issue.

That is a very good question.

I think the advantage of Allegiant is they do not operate but a few routes on a daily basis, in addition they are not connecting any traffic. Thus if they wanted to operate 6 to 10 flights a day into and out of Tucson that would not require more than 1 or 2 gates. Rethinking the Tucson idea, I also have thought that Tucson although a tourist destination has much higher traffic Fall to Spring, while Summer seems to bottom out.

However, I am thinking looking at the Allegiant route map that Reno/Tahoe may be a very good addition. This would pull to year round draw of Reno/Lake Tahoe. In addition this could pull additional traffic from markets that are not yet served by Allegiant to Las Vegas.

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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:25 pm

If I had to bet, I would say it would be MYR or maybe southern Florida. I would love to see MYR, I could go down and use my uncles Condo.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:31 pm

Reality check time in regards to GPT.

GPT just isn't that nice of a place in all honesty. The casinos there are NOTHING like Vegas...never have been...even the much touted Beau Rivage. And forget about the "beach"...every fifty feet there's a drainage pipe jutting out into the gulf...the water is always a murky brown there.

GPT is popular because it is close to some big regional markets which do not allow gambling. I doubt VERY seriously that many people outside of the South would actually want to travel to GPT, so I don't think there's a chance in hell that Allegiant would add much more than what they already have from the city.
 
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:34 pm

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 23):
This would pull to year round draw of Atlantic City. In addition this could pull additional traffic from the New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania area to fill the often remarkable airfares that customers have grown accustomed to with Allegiant.

Don't forget Allegiant is already in ABE, garnering a good bit of the market in TTN and north of PHL. The ACY-originating traffic wouldn't be as high as one would think with Spirit there and Allegiant in ABE for this kind of travel. The ACY-destination traffic would be higher, but even ACY would be a market with a reach limited to only the cities without LAS service. Without a significant price difference (and hotels are usually cheaper in Vegas) nobody is going to pick ACY over LAS.
 
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:43 pm

Fort Myers could tie into Naples.


Hilton Head, perhaps. but doubtful. Myrtle Beach, perhaps, but eh.... somewhere that most of their destinations could easily plug into as easily as they do Orlando, Daytona Beach, and St. Pete ... which would be Ft. Myers. they could also tie the Ft. Myers sea shuttle service, or perhaps try something new and allow a tie in with -some type- of service down to Key West.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:50 pm

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 27):
Without a significant price difference (and hotels are usually cheaper in Vegas) nobody is going to pick ACY over LAS.

That is a preference issue. I for one loathe Atlantic City with a passion it cant hold one candle to Las Vegas. I dont mind the 5 hour flight out on a Friday after work, and the 4.30 hour flight back to NYC on Sunday afternoon. But seriously for the East Coasters it is a very quick weekend trip. I dont think I would be so quick to discount the number of vistors to Atlantic City. There is a huge revitalization project in the works for both the airport and the casino area in Atlantic City. It will never be a Las Vegas, that is rest assured.

http://www2.sjta.com/acairport/expansion.asp

Going back to the idea of New Orleans, which has been suggested a number of times. It would be great for Allegiant to enterprise on routes that were abandoned past-Katrina. There is a lot of potential for growth in New Orleans, it is a market that needs more service. As always New Orleans will be considered both a business and leisure market. The same as Las Vegas. Remember that Las Vegas has been the king of conventions for a number of years now and the convention and meeting space is growing by leaps and bounds. The City of New Orleans is trying to regain additional convention traffic.

It will be interesting to see what Allegiant choses in the end!

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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:05 pm

1) Would Allegiant ever consider serving a ski or mountian resort area, like EGE, or Tahoe, or Jackson Hole? So far, airlines flying into ski resort airports (EGE, ASE, GUC, HDN, DRO) command elevated fares. A more discount carrier could appeal to a new market.

2) Which brings up a question, does Allegiant ever experience a seasonal slowdown? LAS is a year round destination, but a little slower in summer? Likewise with Florida (but not
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:23 pm

Quoting SW733 (Reply 17):
Or Mobile (MOB)?

I think MOB would definitely support at least 2x/3x to LAS although SFB would be a stretch. MOB has lost MCO flights on DL/ASA numerous times.
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:47 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 28):
Hilton Head, perhaps.

Not Hilton Head itself, as they cannot even get RJ's outta that strip, but SAV would work. The Terminal is going to be complete in 2 months, and the officials at the airport have personally said to me and local media that there are 2 new airlines starting service once the terminal project is done, and 1 more ready to commit. This could very well be one of them.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:10 pm

It's been mentioned on other similar threads earlier this year but I guess this time it's my turn to mention the obvious choice that includes golf, wonderful, mild, year-'round weather, beaches, cruises, tourist attractions, plenty of hotels, nearby Mexico, and one really great zoo! Yup, you guessed it: welcome to San Diego...

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Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:53 pm

I would not rule out St. Augustine or in the vinicity. You have a good tourist destination with Jax very nearby for cruises, but also Daytona and the Cape down I95.

Quoting Rampart (Reply 30):
Which brings up a question, does Allegiant ever experience a seasonal slowdown? LAS is a year round destination, but a little slower in summer? Likewise with Florida (but not

I am from Lakeland, FL and the slow season is the Fall and and somewhat in the spring for the Orlando. Summer is the busiest with kids out of school from up north.
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:50 pm

Quoting OMA2FAI2SAV (Reply 32):

Well, yeah, it'd be Savannah... I should have been clarifying. Ooopsie.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:07 pm

How is Allegiant doing actually? It's nice to see an all MD80 airline growing nicely and I love their livery. I'd love to give them a try on my next visit to the US. Are they any good?
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:45 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 33):
It's been mentioned on other similar threads earlier this year but I guess this time it's my turn to mention the obvious choice that includes golf, wonderful, mild, year-'round weather, beaches, cruises, tourist attractions, plenty of hotels, nearby Mexico, and one really great zoo! Yup, you guessed it: welcome to San Diego...

Gate Space??

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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:58 pm

Quoting Kappel (Reply 36):
How is Allegiant doing actually?

They are a very profitable little airline. They're also publicly traded, you can download their financial results and investor presentations at ir.allegiantair.com.

Quoting Kappel (Reply 36):
I'd love to give them a try on my next visit to the US. Are they any good?

There is a trip report from someone that flew them MSY-SFB in the Trip Reports forum.
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:07 am

My top guesses would be RNO, TUS, or PHX (by way of a secondary airport). RNO would be my leader since G4 is already flying a route there (BLI-RNO I believe), and thus must have some infrastructure already in place. Not to mention that RNO is also a year-round destination, while TUS/PHX both have down seasons. PBI would be my other thought, as it would offer tie-ins with the cruise industry in FLL. Despite FL having done well with RSW, I would definitely slot it after PBI, simply because it doesn't offer as many cruise tie-ins.
 
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Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:22 am

Quoting LatinAviation (Reply 38):

Thanks, I will look up the financials and TR.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:26 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 35):
Well, yeah, it'd be Savannah... I should have been clarifying. Ooopsie.

Somehow I knew that you meant Savannah, but I had to clarify for others. We would love to see them here in Savannah, although I am sorry to say I will not be here when they (if) get here. I am moving to Atlanta tonight.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:59 am

Quoting Rampart (Reply 30):
) Would Allegiant ever consider serving a ski or mountain resort area, like EGE, or Tahoe, or Jackson Hole? So far, airlines flying into ski resort airports (EGE, ASE, GUC, HDN, DRO) command elevated fares. A more discount carrier could appeal to a new market.

Allegiant might look at some of the ski towns but the MD80 would not work in Aspen, Jackson Hole and Sun Valley because of airport limitations. EGE might be a possibility but the ski season is relatively short and they would need to use the airplane somewhere else when the ski season is over. It is kind of the danger for F9 and their Lynx unit since they are rumored to be looking at ski towns heavily. What do you do with the plane the rest of the year? (There are two ski area areas that have more of a year round market (BZN and JAC). Both have Yellowstone for the summer and BZN has a relatively large population compared to most ski towns so even their non-peak months are stable. I think BZN boards over 20,000 passengers per month in the spring and fall. In the end, I think Allegiant has too many other low lying fruit areas to go after before they look at ski towns.
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:33 am

Just guessing, but I think the new vacation destination will not be in Florida. If it were, I think that would mean too many eggs in one basket for Allegiant when (not if) another Category 5 hurricane occurs.

I like the ideas of SAN, ACY, BRO, and SAV best myself. Although maybe I'm contradicting myself with SAV there - as a midwesterner I don't really know, would a hurricane positioned to cause problems for PIE and SFB also be likely to cause problems at SAV a day or two later? I think one of the ones last year went from Florida up through ILM, but don't remember how much it had died down by the time it got there.

And as far as ACY...if Skybus can claim that BLI is "Seattle", Allegiant could almost market ACY to people in the west/midwest as a cheap way to get to NYC. Almost.
 
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:41 am

Quoting Chase (Reply 43):

What about seasonal destinations? Ft. Myers in the winter and then New York City in the summer? I bet a couple of larger sized-Allegiant markets could support two or three weeklies to New York City with complete tourism packages, broadway show packages, the whole nine yards.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting Rampart (Reply 30):
2) Which brings up a question, does Allegiant ever experience a seasonal slowdown? LAS is a year round destination, but a little slower in summer? Likewise with Florida (but not

PSP is a seasonal market for them - served from LAS and BLI
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:51 am

As it stands now I think Allegiant bases its crews in SFB and LAS and does all out and back trips (no overnights). I doubt they'd start P2P flying- if they add another vacation destination (not talking about additional outstations), it would have to be year round (not AZ or a ski only destination) to support te crewbase, and have to be a big enough destination to attract MD-80s full of toursits from many podunk (sorry but its true) outstations they serve. As long as they continue making only a few flights on each route per week buisness travel will remain negligible. They also would need to be able to add a fairly large amount of capacity cheaply (SAN is right out).

I haven't been there, so could be way of, but I really wasn't under te imrepession that ACY was a long distance destination. Yeah, if you live within a few hours drive (as many millions of people do), it makes sense, but I don't know how much advertising and finnancial incentives would be required to get folks from BIS to pick ACY over LAS.

I'd agree with those suggesting a more southernly Florida beach destination. The cruise connection seems possible, but scheduling seems like apotentail issue. Hopefuly someone more knowledgeable than myself can comment, but I was under the impression most cruises start and end on te weekend (so no weekday traffic), and it might be hard to match flgihts with shorter cruises since there wouldn't be daily serivce. Of course if they pick a city that is a vacation destination in and of iteself, pax could spend a few nights in a hotel there.... jsut a few thoughts.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:08 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
My guess would be MYR or Atlantic City...

I doubt it. It seems like everyone and their mother has tried to bring some broke-down 737-200 or DC-9 to MYR and/or ACY from just about anywhere and it never works. Neither has nearly enough consistent, year-round demand for air travel from anywhere off the Eastern Seaboard. My guess would be anything big, sunny, and growing, ie Florida, Arizona, California, or Mexico.
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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:58 am

Sorry if this is rather off topic but what gate does Allegiant use at GSO?



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RE: Allegiant Expected To Add Another Vacation Spot

Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:01 am

Also rememeber that key to Allegiant's business model are ancillary revenues, which includes commission/override sales on hotel packages they sell directly to the consumer. I am not saying this would preclude them doing the same with cruise companies, but the programs are all in place for hotel companies.

Allegiant is also built around low aircraft utilization, very low fixed costs but high variable costs. Hence their out-and-back routings. So the attractiveness of a city that can cater to this type of operation is beneficial. And they don't necessarily start with a big presence, I believe the Tampa operation was started with their 2 MD-87s.

As far as GPT, I could see them doing something more akin to what Reno Air did with their quasi-charter track and revenue guarantee program. This program ended in 1998, before AA acquired them, as they wanted to focus on scheduled service revenues. I believe Allegiant does a similar charter program in Laughlin with either Edgewater or Harrah's and have 1 or 2 MD-80s serving this program. I recall reading in an analyst report that GPT casino and hotel space is still down but that Harrah's is building a Jimmy Buffett/Margaritaville-inspired hotel/casino/resort there.

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