|Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 23):|
This makes me wonder with this schedule reduction of approximately 10 aircraft, what routes have gained the additional service.
Let's not forget that WN
is in the midst of starting up SFO
(and doubling their real estate to 4 gates later this year) so I would not be surprised to see a big hunk of growth there. Maybe some more DEN
and there are plenty of other P-2-P routes to be added all around the system (as they have concentrated on doing this whole year!)
|Quoting VictorKilo (Reply 2):|
The BWI-SAN nonstop flights are still available for booking, just not BWI-LAX and BWI-OAK, or PHL-OAK or PHL-LAX.
BWI-SAN has more O&D than BWI-OAK and has a 17% higher yield based on the Q3 O&D figures, so I can see cutting BWI-OAK but not BWI-SAN. Plus, with gate space at LAX at a premium, the LAX transcons may not be as profitable as other potential LAX routes - could the four n/s transcons from LAX be replaced by four daily DEN-LAX flights?
is keeping flights that LAX
is losing... never thought I'd see the day. (And I've been pushing for SAN
. Guess I'll stop doing that.)
As for gate space at a premium at LAX
, that's also getting to be the case in SAN
as of September. But LA
is losing 4 flights (trans-cons) while SAN
has only 2. And of course the yield is the most important factor anyway.
I don't think we will see LA
-Denver any more than we'll see LA
-SF; as you pointed out, gate space is too valuable and they can use the space better than either of those very crowded markets.
|Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 14):|
They have to be doing something with these planes... and also they are going to be re-doing their schedule (another optimization) for early November, that should be published within the next month.
What I find most interesting about the timing here is that they are closing these flights down on or about 10/04 when, as RL757' has pointed out, WN
is due for a major schedule release less than a month later (11/03!) Kind of strange to go to all this trouble when a month later, they could just kill any flights they want and not have to re-accommodate anyone already holding reservations...
|Quoting VictorKilo (Reply 15):|
What's interesting to me is that, in addition to the extremely long flights being targeted, many of the flights with reduced frequencies are the short flights. Five of the twenty shortest routes WN currently flies (HOU-AUS, MCO-FLL, BWI-ISP, and RNO-OAK/SJC), all of which are under 225 miles, lose a roundtrip flight.
|Quoting Pgtravel (Reply 3):|
One less nonstop flight (usually late night/early morning):
I don't know how of many of these flights this applies to but let's remember that the trans-cons often have tag-ons on either or both ends; i.e., in late August, flight 293 operates BWI
and flight 2114 op's SFO
. If they cancelled the SAN
r/t, the tag-ons would probably also go away (temporarily anyway.) I'm sure the same applies to the OAK
trans-cons as well, so that RNO
flight that is listed as going away might be a tag-on to an OAK
trans-con; the same for ISP
. Maybe the MDW
is a tag-on to the SNA
flight that is disappearing.
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