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Boeing Discusses 787-10

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:08 pm

This was in an article that discussed many things, but I thought this part was of interest. Looks like I have been wrong about the 787-10 and wether or not it was actually under consideration. Looks further than that to me. I know there was an earlier thread on the subject, but it has been locked out for some reason. So here we go:

Further out, Boeing is working with interested customers to define the 787-10, which has yet to be launched.

"It's not a matter of if for the 787-10, it's a matter of when," said Bair. "We continue to see good interest in this airplane and are working to define what the best offering will be. We have time. In fact, we've moved out the anticipated entry into service for the -10 because there is such high demand for the initial versions of the airplane. We see the 787-10 being introduced sometime around 2013."


Link: http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/tic...Date=20070619&ID=7051007&Symbol=BA
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RE: Boeing Discusses 787-10

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:17 pm

Quoting DAYflyer (Thread starter):
It's not a matter of if for the 787-10, it's a matter of when,"

Didn't he say that last year, I wonder if they really need a higher thrust engine to make this version really work - it could be a way for GE to get into the XWB programme - make a engine for the 7810 and the A3510 in one go?
 
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RE: Boeing Discusses 787-10

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:21 pm

I think that if GE did the engine for the -10, it would be of the thrust class needed for the 350-800, but not for the larger models. I'm not sure where it would lead long term. There are others here who are far better qaulified to answer that.
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RE: Boeing Discusses 787-10

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:23 pm

Once the A350 program was revamped to better compete in the 777's space, it seemed logical that Boeing would launch a larger variant of the 787.

Some believe Boeing has already tried to do so and been firmly rebuffed by the market in private discussions. However, Boeing principles continue to speak of a 787-10 with an MTOW at or around the 540,000lbs with a range of around 7500nm which would allow it to perform most missions that the 777-200ER can, if not quite with the same payloads.

Yes, EK wants 8000+nm of range, but EK is but one carrier (if a very big one). A great deal of A330-300 and 777-200(ER) carriers would find the 787-10's legs plenty fine to start, and Boeing can work on HGW variants for EIS around 2016 or so.
 
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RE: Boeing Discusses 787-10

Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:47 pm

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 1):
Didn't he say that last year, I wonder if they really need a higher thrust engine to make this version really work - it could be a way for GE to get into the XWB programme - make a engine for the 7810 and the A3510 in one go?

The A350-1000 needs larger engines than a high MTOW 787-10 which would still be closer in size to the A359.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 3):
Some believe Boeing has already tried to do so and been firmly rebuffed by the market in private discussions. However, Boeing principles continue to speak of a 787-10 with an MTOW at or around the 540,000lbs with a range of around 7500nm which would allow it to perform most missions that the 777-200ER can, if not quite with the same payloads.

They are not eager to launch an aircraft immediately when they know their competitor is directly targeting this space with its large replacement market for A333s/A343s/A345s and 772A/ER/LRs. It is important to build an optimal replacement, although they could get an early version out and then a higher MTOW variant later. But that would mean they would have to spend additional money.
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