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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:34 am

I flew on SW from IND to LAS with stop at PHX and return n/s from LAS to IND, I noticed they do not have any tv screen to keep people company on long route aboard Boeing 737-700 while I flew on CO from IAH-IND, aboard Boeing 737-700, they has tv pvt for passenger to watch the short program and news on over 2.5 hrs flight. I am not sure about Airtran since they has 737-700. I notice that most of lowest airlines has tv for passengers. I may be wrong.

I also notice that on Airbus 319 and Airbus 320? aboard NW, they do not have tv screen. is that correct? I was on NW from IND-LAS, I was surprised when there is no tv popout from overhead. I was so bored but lucky I has laptop so I put in dvd and watch movie on laptop all way to LAS. I am not sure about another airlines so any information would be sure apprecation.
 
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:39 am

IFE systems are an airline specified option......thus CO 737NGs have IFE while Southwest 737NGs dont. Southwest and Northwest have determined that IFE is not a necessary feature on their domestic flights within the continental US (NW does offer IFE on its flights from the mainland to Hawaii).....remember, the installantion and maintainance of IFE systems can be expensive and programming for the system must be obtained. Its a business decision, nothing more.
 
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:48 am

WN doesn't have PTV because they are WN.

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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:03 am

JetBlue and Frontier both have in-seat video screens on their aircraft - although its somewhat debatable if they position themselves as "Low Cost carriers". But they certainly aren't majors.

I realize folks on these forums debate on the necessity of IFE. Personally it is absolutely a consideration when I choose which airline to fly and IMO its becoming an expected requirement for longer legs. Of course fare and FF accounts also play into it.

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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:13 am

WN has never had any tv's on any of their aircraft, IIRC.
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:17 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Want bells whistles and frills... don't fly a low cost carrier.

Or alternatively, bring your own IFE.
 
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:25 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I was so bored but lucky I has laptop so I put in dvd and watch movie on laptop all way to LAS.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't DVD players on the prohibited electronic devices list? Or is that only for critical phases of flight? I know that malfunctioning CD/DVD players can be huge emitters and create quite a bit of havoc...

Maybe that is one more reason to install PTVs...Not everyone has solid-state media players
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:32 am

Quoting Electech6299 (Reply 6):
but aren't DVD players on the prohibited electronic devices list?

I don't believe so. As long as they do not emit any sort of wireless transmitting that either sends or recieves info which, DVD players dont, it is only prohibited in the first/last ten minutes of flight (below 10,000 feet).
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:34 am

Actually, our 737-700s do have TV screens, but they only keep the two pilots up front company...  Wink
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:54 am

Quoting Vxg (Reply 3):
I realize folks on these forums debate on the necessity of IFE. Personally it is absolutely a consideration when I choose which airline to fly and IMO its becoming an expected requirement for longer legs.

It is also a consideration when I fly.
I won't take a flight that has IFE if I can help it.  old 

There. Let the debate re-commence!

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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:19 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 9):
I won't take a flight that has IFE if I can help it.

Even if its Channel 9?
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:27 am

Quoting Apodino (Reply 10):
Even if its Channel 9?

OK, let me change that to: "I won't take a flight that has a personal tv screen staring me in the face if I can help it." A few audio channels are OK with me (particularly Channel 9!)  old  (Thanks 'dino.  Wink )

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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:30 am

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 7):
As long as they do not emit any sort of wireless transmitting that either sends or recieves info

Wrong- not sends or receives info, but transmits on a frequency that could interfere. (yes the FCC cares about info- but both the FAA and FCC care about interference). It's not about digital/bluetooth/cellular connectivity capability, it's about EMF interference. Any spinning optical disc reader can generate interference under the right (or wrong) circumstances.

So a malfunctioning CD/DVD player already violates FCC laws, but those laws don't magically prevent the device being brought onto an airplane. That's why the FAA (and individual airlines) get involved as to what can be brought on, or turned on, during flight.

Oh yeah, I'm sure that laptop playing the DVD had wireless connectivity... Hope that was turned off too
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:38 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
"I won't take a flight that has a personal tv screen staring me in the face if I can help it."

On F9 you don't have to pay for DirecTV, and you can turn the screen to dark.
 
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:54 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I notice that most of lowest airlines has tv for passengers.

What are your trying to say here? Is WN a low airline?

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I also notice that on Airbus 319 and Airbus 320? aboard NW, they do not have tv screen. is that correct?

Well, if you were on those a/c types and they didn't have a tv screen, then that must be correct?? I'm not sure I understand your question.

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I was surprised when there is no tv popout from overhead.

Are you surprised when there is no 'tv popout from overhead' on the 737-300 series, as well?

The bottom line answer to your question is, WN does not have any IFE on their a/c because they don't spec. it out.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Because Air Namibia doesn't fly the 737-700.

You beat me to the punch!!  laughing 
 
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:55 am

I flew on Frontier last Aug, I sure enjoy tv screen, I just use as map route to see where we are at. Some people on my flight turn their tv off. It is really good way to have IFE to keep people or young kids time by watch good show on IFE.
 
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:58 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Because Air Namibia doesn't fly the 737-700



Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 15):
You beat me to the punch!!

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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:13 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Want bells whistles and frills... don't fly a low cost carrier

Or don't fly some legacy carriers Wink
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:26 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
flew on SW from IND to LAS with stop at PHX and return n/s from LAS to IND, I noticed they do not have any tv screen to keep people company on long route aboard Boeing 737-700 while I flew on CO from IAH-IND, aboard Boeing 737-700, they has tv pvt

Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

that's how they continue to be profitable.

what planet are you on???
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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:36 am

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 19):
they don't offer anything on any route.

Yes they do! Their perky FA's!  Silly
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:25 am

Quoting Vxg (Reply 3):
JetBlue and Frontier both have in-seat video screens on their aircraft - although its somewhat debatable if they position themselves as "Low Cost carriers". But they certainly aren't majors.

Jetblue and Frontier are very much indeed major airlines in the United States.

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):

Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

Do you mean in terms of IFE? Because we DO offer Food, snacks and Drinks and that such..

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 19):
Yes they do! Their perky FA's! Silly

...and they are VERY Perky indeed!  laughing   laughing 

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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:33 am

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):
Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

that's how they continue to be profitable.

I don't think that the lack of IFE has much effect on Southwest's profits. I think that if Southwest were to offer IFE, they would continue to be profitable. In fact, IFE may in fact increase profits and would make them more competitive in terms of features against JetBlue, Frontier, Airtran, and Delta's transcon product.
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:34 am

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):
Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

that's how they continue to be profitable.

what planet are you on???

Explain, then, how jetBlue, Frontier, Virgin Blue, and Westjet (all of which are LCCs that offer the LiveTV service) manage to stay profitable?
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):

Explain, then, how jetBlue, Frontier, Virgin Blue, and Westjet (all of which are LCCs that offer the LiveTV service) manage to stay profitable?

But they haven't, not Frontier and Jetblue both had and have currenty continued to lose money per quarter.

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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):
what planet are you on???

you really need to respect people as people come here to have a nice friendly conversation rather than you insult or make funny of people's answer.

The reason I posted this topic is that I want to know why SWA do not have IFE while most of lowest airlines has IFE.
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:48 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):

Want bells whistles and frills... don't fly a low cost carrier.

As said, several low cost carriers have more whistles and frills than legacies. This is even true in some respects for WN.

Quoting Electech6299 (Reply 6):

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't DVD players on the prohibited electronic devices list?

You are wrong.

Quoting Electech6299 (Reply 12):
already violates FCC law

The FCC doesn't make law, they regulate

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):

Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

Oh really? Then why do they offer more food service than most legacy carriers?
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:48 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):

Can you not keep yourself occupied for a couple of hours without staring at a TV? Look out the window, there's some great IFE for you!  yes 

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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:08 am

Southwest is basically a short step up from Greyhound, so you not going to get any luxury on Southwest.
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:00 am

yeah, I did spend some time look out the window and see the land changes from East to west.
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:03 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 27):
Southwest is basically a short step up from Greyhound,

just like economy on any other domestic us airline
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:01 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 29):

just like economy on any other domestic us airline

Except in some cases more comfortable with better service.

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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:32 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 27):
Southwest is basically a short step up from Greyhound, so you not going to get any luxury on Southwest.

Seriously? Go take a trip on Greyhound, and fly back one-way on Southwest. Your opinion is rather insulting to the product that WN offers.
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:59 am

I really have never understood what the big deal is about IFE... For me, it does not matter what kind of IFE service an airline offers... If I am not looking out the window or listening to my iPod, I normally have a good book or magazine to keep me occupied....

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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:15 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 24):
make funny of people's answer.

 laughing 
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:16 am

What you pay for is what you get. Nowadays people bring along laptop, DVD machine, Ipod, and etc to keep them entertain why brother with those TV screen? Especially when you pay $39 for LAX OAK or $200 on LAX SAT non-stop.
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:24 am

Quoting AznCSA4QF744ER (Reply 34):
What you pay for is what you get. Nowadays people bring along laptop, DVD machine, Ipod, and etc to keep them entertain why brother with those TV screen? Especially when you pay $39 for LAX OAK or $200 on LAX SAT non-stop.

back in the good old days there was no IFE .......

several LCC's have IFE like B6 and F9. your point is not really understandable.
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:49 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 31):
Quoting 747400sp (Reply 27):
Southwest is basically a short step up from Greyhound, so you not going to get any luxury on Southwest.

Seriously? Go take a trip on Greyhound, and fly back one-way on Southwest. Your opinion is rather insulting to the product that WN offers.

Seriously, it's not the product but it's people that WN bings to the table - they say they gave people the "freedom" to fly, but perhaps the Springer crowd just should have stayed on the (Greyhound) bus?  Smile
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:20 pm

Quoting OnAClearDay (Reply 13):
On F9 you don't have to pay for DirecTV, and you can turn the screen to dark.

When I flew Jetblue it was the DirectTV was free but I also flew Frontier and had to pay $5 for it. That was a year ago don't know if they changed their policy on it.
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:47 pm

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 35):
several LCC's have IFE like B6 and F9. your point is not really understandable.

And how often do you see B6 offering $39 one way fare from LGB OAK?
F9 you have to pay $5 to watch a show or movie..... F9 and B6 charges a lot for on their fares then WN.
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:50 pm

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Want bells whistles and frills... don't fly a low cost carrier.

I knew it, AA is a low cost carrier! No IFE on the MD-80s and no PTVs on the 767-300ERs!
 
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:10 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 24):
you really need to respect people as people come here to have a nice friendly conversation rather than you insult or make funny of people's answer.

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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:15 am

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 36):

Seriously, it's not the product but it's people that WN bings to the table - they say they gave people the "freedom" to fly, but perhaps the Springer crowd just should have stayed on the (Greyhound) bus?

Having flown for other carriers myself, AND having MANY coworkers who have as well, I can say, all pax are the same. I've had the same low-class pax in First Class before too. This whole idea that our pax are somehow different is just a popular cliche that everyone likes to throw around but in reality it's simply NOT true.

As others have said, aside from our chaotic boarding method, our product is on par if not BETTER that other domestic carriers in Economy.
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:34 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 24):
The reason I posted this topic is that I want to know why SWA do not have IFE while most of lowest airlines has IFE.

Remember, SWA original biz model was point to point -- often fairly short flights. In fact, one of the original flights was between Dallas and Houston -- we're talking about 60 min or less. For such a short flight, IFE simply didn't make sense.
As others have said, IFE is costly to maintain, buy etc. WN cut that out simply in order to save money.

CO on the other hand has many routes that are longer, and their biz model is trying to be a "perks" legacy carrier.
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:50 am

Quoting Sking11 (Reply 37):

When I flew Jetblue it was the DirectTV was free but I also flew Frontier and had to pay $5 for it. That was a year ago don't know if they changed their policy on it.

It is still the same. B6 intended to charge for TV after a trial period on start up but ended up entering into an agreement with LiveTV, and then buying the company, which brought the costs down significantly. Meanwhile, F9 has to pay for the service.

Quoting AznCSA4QF744ER (Reply 38):
F9 and B6 charges a lot for on their fares then WN.

No they don't, particularly B6

Quoting AznCSA4QF744ER (Reply 38):

And how often do you see B6 offering $39 one way fare from LGB OAK?

Probably more often than WN.
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RE: Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:09 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 5):
Or alternatively, bring your own IFE.

 yes  I always bring a book or a sheet of soduku (that game makes me mad! i never get it!  banghead  Big grin) and have never had trouble entertaining myself.



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