Seattle Ops
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East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:21 am

What a mess from IAD-BOS! The Cleveland center is a disaster too. Listening on Live ATC tells the whole story. NYC and PHL will be under the gun soon. Good luck fellow travelers.  Smile
 
deltairlines
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:24 am

My father's sitting on a DL Shuttle right now at LGA caught in this mess...fun times indeed.
 
Boston92
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:25 am

I won't be out there till the 12th, but it will most likely be worse then anyway (now that I spoke).
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:28 am

Quoting Seattle Ops (Thread starter):
What a mess from IAD-BOS!

Describe "mess".
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RDUDDJI
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:32 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
Describe "mess".

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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:36 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
Describe "mess".

I think this fits quite nicely...  Wink

(The arrival and departure delays are in minutes; the 345 minutes (5:45) at TEB are the highest I can recall seeing in awhile.. 2.5-3.5 hrs. for the NYC/PHL areas seems to increasingly be the norm when the weather becomes so widespread)

DELAY INFO

ARPT AD DD TIME REASON
ADS +15 2340 TM Initiatives:MIT/MINIT:WX:TSTMS
BOS -60 0020 TM Initiatives:GS:WX:TSTMS
BWI +45 1921 TM Initiatives:GS:WX:TSTMS
CLT +30 2310 TM Initiatives:MIT/MINIT:WX:TSTMS
DCA -60 2057 WX:TSTMS
EWR +195 0058 WX:TSTMS
EWR +15 0110 ZDC/WX:TSTMS
HPN +30 0022 ZDC/WX:TSTMS
IAD +180 0115 WX:TSTMS
IAH +15 2346 TM Initiatives:MIT/MINIT:WX:TSTMS
JFK +225 0124 TM Initiatives:MIT/MINIT:WX:Swap
LGA +45 0117 ZDC/WX:TSTMS
LGA +180 2349 TM Initiatives:GS:WX:Swap
MDW +45 0055 TM Initiatives:EDCT:WX:TSTMS
ORD -30 0007 TM Initiatives:EDCT:WX:TSTMS
PHL +150 0113 WX:TSTMS
TEB +345 0105 SWAP
TEB +15 0110 ZDC/WX:TSTMS
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Seattle Ops
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:38 am

Thanks RDUDDJI, The Mets game at Shea has gone rain delayed, pouring like crazy, most of the departures at PHL have shut down their engines.
 
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:42 am

TEB should be the last priority.... airliners should have priority in congested airspace! Basic democratic principle (small d).
 
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:42 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 5):
ARPT AD DD TIME REASON
ADS +15 2340 TM Initiatives:MIT/MINIT:WX:TSTMS
BOS -60 0020 TM Initiatives:GS:WX:TSTMS

Out of curiosity, what's the difference between the + and the - ?
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:42 am

If you look at the flight track for CO 1802, you will see it made a small circle just off the coast of Long Island before continuing south. Was the circle made in hopes of getting a better route west?

Continental.com shows the planned route on their flight status page, and the flight filed to fly down the coast to JAX, then turns west and fly along I-10 all the way to TUS. Gonna be a long flight for those folks, but at least they are not sitting on the ground.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA1802
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:45 am

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JetJock22
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:45 am

Meh, this happens every week. We will go to work tomorrow, get yelled at for cancelling flights, get everyone back on track by Sunday or Monday only to have it happen all over again middle of next week. It's a vicious cycle but I am sadly used to it by now.
 
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:46 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
Describe "mess".

I live about 15 miles from EWR.

Dark Clouds
Heavy Lightning
Swirling winds
Rapid Change in temperature
and, oh yeah, downpour conditions.

Just before the first raindrops, I saw what seemed to be a CO 737-7 flying low and fast to try to land on 22L.

At least my lawn's getting watered.  Wink
 
AeroWesty
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:49 am

What a mess! LOL

(I guess I should be watching The Weather Channel instead of Larry King interview Paris Hilton, eh?)
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OPNLguy
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:50 am

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 8):
Out of curiosity, what's the difference between the + and the - ?

I believe that's trend inforation, i.e. "-" for delays are on the wane, and "+" for the delays are getting worse...
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7cubed
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:50 am

All hell has broke loose here in south central Pennsylvania (Lancaster) and it's heading to Philly.

Be safe!

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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:51 am

Yeah, today is a real mess. For some reason DFW and DAL don't show on the OIS page, but they are screwed up too. DFW had a ground stop earlier and AA is taking down their schedule with cancellations all over the place and some diversions into OKC. WN has some cancellations out of DAL. Today is just a really bad day to fly unless on the west coast.
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Seattle Ops
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:51 am

PHL Tower is making a list of flights that want to go back to the gate!
 
RDUDDJI
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:02 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 14):
I believe that's trend inforation, i.e. "-" for delays are on the wane, and "+" for the delays are getting worse...

correct, however those times can vary vastly from flight to flight depending on which arrival/departure fixes are most affected.
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AirTranTUS
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:16 am

The last departure from EWR was over an hour ago and last arrival was 20 min ago.
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:38 am

All 4 departure gates are closed, just about everyone is going back to the gates  Sad Poor people!
 
Alias1024
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:55 am

TEB is running departure delays of 390 minutes and increasing. That's six and a half hours!!!!  Wow!
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:08 pm

I live near JFK, and as we were having continuous lightning all around us, pouring rain and wind that was powerful enough to topple trees, I was still hearing planes taking off!

Obviously they stopped at a certain point, but I couldn't believe what I was hearing for a while. My house is pretty much directly underneath the takeoff pattern that was in use at the time, and the storm was literally right on top of us. And it's been bad - this is not what I'd consider a "normal" storm. This is a don't-go-outside-'cause-you're-gonna-get-struck-by-lightning kind of storm, and it lasted for hours. We get storms this bad once every few years.
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:21 pm

Quoting Seattle Ops (Reply 17):
PHL Tower is making a list of flights that want to go back to the gate!

Had two lines next to each other on Papa and Sierra. I never saw that many heavies all together at once. They were on the ground for quite some time since ZNY wanted 30 Miles In trail for DITCH departures.
 
silentbob
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:30 pm

Sounds like a nightmare at PHL. I've been listening on liveATC for an hour or so and heard half a dozen or more crews time out.
 
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:32 pm

I got lucky. I was on the AA's 5.40pm DCA-MIA today. Flight delayed to 7.30PM, then we sat on the tarmac for an hour, the pilot was able to get a less direct routing, and we somehow jumped in front of all these planes to be #2 for take off, landed in Miami three hours late. Most people seemed to have made their connections though. All the flights out of Miami were delayed too.
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RE: East Coast (US) Gridlocked

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:47 pm

What's really sick about this is that this is your absolutly typical run-of-the-mill northeast summer afternoon T-storms. Welcome to the east coast...
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