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TAP Starts New European Routes

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:49 pm

TAP Air Portugal, obtained the Competition Authority's approval earlier this month for acquisition of Portugalia (PGA), announced a few days ago the introduction of 4 new routes to Europe , starting with next winter's timetable :

- Lisbon-Seville
- Lisbon-Hamburg
- Porto-Bruxelles
- Porto-Rome FCO


More details about the schedule to come soon (next week).

Source: http://www.agenciafinanceira.iol.pt/noticia.php?id=824500&div_id=1728


http://jornaldigital.com/noticias.php?noticia=14496

[Edited 2007-06-28 15:50:31]
 
adicool
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:55 pm

Great to see TP in HAM.
To what destinations in Spain does TP fly from their hubs LIS and Oporto?
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:58 pm

Quoting Adicool (Reply 1):
To what destinations in Spain does TP fly from their hubs LIS and Oporto?

From LIS to MAD and BCN only. OPO, probably the same.

Portugalia serves many more.

Interesting development!

[Edited 2007-06-28 16:01:53]
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:21 pm

HAM should do particularly well in view of TAP's membership in StarAlliance.

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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:26 pm

quick question: is the brand Portuglia gonna be integrated completely to the TP-concern or will they still be active with their own metel?
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:33 pm

I thought they would consider at least VIE, since there's no airlines in this route. What about increasing the frequencies of PRG & BUD to daily? Any chance?
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:46 pm

Quoting Adicool (Reply 4):
quick question: is the brand Portuglia gonna be integrated completely to the TP-concern or will they still be active with their own metel?

According to the quoted article, flights will be sold under TP flight numbers but NI staff and fleet will remain the same, at least for the time being. I think they intend to keep the Portugalia brand, it has a good reputation.
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:01 am

Quoting Copacabana (Reply 5):
I thought they would consider at least VIE

I thought the same thing.  Sad

Quoting Copacabana (Reply 5):

since there's no airlines in this route

Right, and in addition to the O/D market TP LIS-VIE codesharing with OS would also connect 2 star alliance hubs.
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:17 am

Nice to see TP growing on Europe.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
HAM should do particularly well in view of TAP's membership in StarAlliance.

The number of portuguese people in HAM is amazing. Also there are ties between Brazil and HAM which TP could for sure take advantage.

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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:20 am

They may need to reinforce their LIS-LAD service as well with TAAG being banned as of next week...
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:07 am

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 9):
They may need to reinforce their LIS-LAD service as well with TAAG being banned as of next week...

Why is TAAG being banned?
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:59 am

Quoting HanginOut (Reply 10):
Why is TAAG being banned?

Being discussed here, but no real reason yet stated: EU Blacklists All Indonesian Airlines (by BuyantUkhaa Jun 28 2007 in Civil Aviation)

EDIT: And also here: Angolan Airlines 737 Crashes (by CraigW Jun 28 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 8):
Nice to see TP growing on Europe.

Flew with them recently via ZRH to LIS. A320 and the service on board left a good impression.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 9):
They may need to reinforce their LIS-LAD service

Wasn't there already talk recently that TP was adding flights to LAD ?
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[Edited 2007-06-28 23:00:57]
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:13 am

Quoting HT (Reply 11):
Wasn't there already talk recently that TP was adding flights to LAD ?

Yeah, daily operations to LAD but that has nothing to do with TAAG being banned from the EU.
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:20 pm

My understanding is that the flights to the new routes will be operated by PGA (but with TP nr as well)

Also with the acquisition of PGA by TAP, it is planned to have flights between LIS and OPO every 2 hours.

TAP will readjust and create new regional routes for PGA, in order to feed their long haul destiantions as well.
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:15 pm

Quoting Copacabana (Reply 5):
I thought they would consider at least VIE, since there's no airlines in this route.

I cannot understand why nobody is flying this route! At least 5 of my friends would take this route and connecting to GIG evey year. Big grin Me included with ZED´s.  Smile
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:20 pm

Quoting TAP1972 (Reply 13):
I cannot understand why nobody is flying this route!

OS flies it I think twice weekly in summer.
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:22 pm

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 15):
OS flies it I think twice weekly in summer.

They used to do but unfortunatly not anymore.  Sad
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:26 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 16):
They used to do but unfortunatly not anymore.

You're right, they're gone. Funny that there are two weekly flights LIS-KIV (and I have yet to meet the first Moldovan in Portugal) and none LIS-VIE...
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tiago701
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:51 am

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 17):
Funny that there are two weekly flightsrnLIS-KIV (and I have yet to meet the first Moldovan in Portugal)

Moldavans are the 6th biggest (not EU) foreign community in Portugal.
(2004 data and obviously just counting the legalised immigrants)
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:30 pm

Quoting Tiago701 (Reply 18):
Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 17):
Funny that there are two weekly flightsrnLIS-KIV (and I have yet to meet the first Moldovan in Portugal)

Moldavans are the 6th biggest (not EU) foreign community in Portugal.
(2004 data and obviously just counting the legalised immigrants)

And the flight is operate by Ukrain Airlines (TP code shares)

Regarding VIE, does it really justify to have the route? Why did OS drop the summer route they had between VIE and LIS? Probably the loads do not justify to have this flight....
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:00 pm

Quoting TAP1972 (Reply 19):
And the flight is operate by Ukrain Airlines (TP code shares)

PS operates to KBP and not KIV. KIV flight is operated by 9U and TP does not codeshare.
 
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RE: TAP Starts New European Routes

Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:09 pm

TAP AND PGA TO ENHANCE SERVICES DELIVERED TO PASSENGERS

As of next July 1st, 2007, PGA will start operating flights at TAP service exclusively, according to the terms of the contract meanwhile established. Therefore, PGA passengers are kindly requested to use, as from that day onwards, TAP contact / assistance centres (airports; reservations / call centres; site and FFP

Both brands – TAP and PGA – will be maintained as independent ones. TAP will assume the role of the only marketing brand to passengers, while PGA will act as an operating carrier to other airlines.


Up to October-end, PGA fleet's utilization will be gradually maximized, with flights timetables being reinforced and a more suitable allocation of flights provided. In addition, more destinations are to be added to the network, such as Seville and Hamburg departing Lisbon and Rome and Brussels departing Oporto.


source : www.flytap.com/Portugal/en/Company/Press/PressReleases/6308

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