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Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:47 pm

I'm taking three flights on Lan in the next two weeks, and I'd like to know what the chances are of getting one of the new or reconfigured birds. My itinerary is as follows:

Thursday, 05 July 2007
LP 0515
MIA-LIM
Boeing 767-300

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Monday, 16 July 2007
XL 5580 (operated by Lan Peru)
LIM-UIO
Airbus A319

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XL 0516
UIO-MIA
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Also, what is Lan's upgrade policy? Are they even allowed? If so, how much is the average upgrade?

[Edited 2007-07-01 06:47:44]
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:30 am

Well the chances of getting the new interior are very difficult to tell. As far as i know the new coach cabin on the 767 are only available on the newest planes on Lan's fleet. There is a lot of 767 that doesn't have the new interior but they offer PTV's on coach. And last but not least there are a little part of the fleet (the oldest one) that doesn't have the new interior neither ptv's. I have flown with them a lot of times between CCS-MIA-CCS and i have never get the chance to get the new interior but they i have flown in the other two (The one with PTV's and the oldest one). About the A319 i don't have too much info but as i know they have a standard entertainment system and a great service inside. Maybe in the flights to and from MIA there is a chance to get the new interior. Just as a complement: CCS-MIA-CCS on LAN

Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
Also, what is Lan's upgrade policy? Are they even allowed? If so, how much is the average upgrade?

About this the last time the flight was overbooked they offered me 700$ in tickets to stay but they never mentioned an upgrade. I'm a lanpass member and the points required to get an upgrade are very high.

Hope this helps!.

Saludos desde Caracas

Tavo

[Edited 2007-07-01 17:43:17]
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:15 am

Your flights to LIM and UIO-MIA will most likely have the new interiors. I have not flown in the old interiors for a while now, so I think your chances of getting a new interior are way higher than the old one.
The LIM-UIO flight has an all Y configuration and seat pitch is pretty bad, but the flight is short. On the other hand, LIM-GYE gets the B767.
Their free upgrade policy is like any other major airline. No free upgrades unless they are oversold. (In the USA, I noticed that after they upgrade all their elites, they begin upgrading elderly people which is great). The average upgrade with cash, will be the difference between your Y ticket and a full fare J ticket.

[Edited 2007-07-01 18:18:08]
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:44 am

According LAN fleet program at this moment the aircraft programmed for your flights are:

July 5 LP515 MIA-LIM
Boeing 767-300ER CC-CEK, three class configuration old interiors without PTVs


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July 16 LP580 LIM-UIO
Airbus A319-100 CC-CPF single class, new interiors.


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July16 XL516 UIO-MIA
Boeing 767-300ER, CC-CCZ , two class configuration, old interiors without Ptvs


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I recommend a good book or magazine for your travel or read the IN Magazine and choose a window seat of course, because your 767s will be a little bored Big grin. Enjoy your flights!
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:22 am

From what I've read (Flyertalk/here), it seems as thought the re-configured 767s are being placed more on the JFK and LAX routes, and rarely on the MIA routes.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:39 am

Quoting UnitedFirst (Reply 4):
it seems as thought the re-configured 767s are being placed more on the JFK and LAX routes, and rarely on the MIA routes

Today LAN has 12 reconfigured Boeing 763 which flying in all 767 routes wihout exception. Initially the first 763s with new interior was introduced into North America routes, but now flying in all routes.

The LAN's 763 with new interiors are:

CC-CBJ
CC-CDM
CC-CDP
CC-CML
CC-CRH
CC-CZU
CC-CZW
CC-CWF
CC-CWG
CC-CWH
CC-CWN
CC-CWV
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:42 am

Quoting Chupame (Reply 2):
(In the USA, I noticed that after they upgrade all their elites, they begin upgrading elderly people which is great)

You are joking?
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:09 am

Thanks for the info, RJ_Delta!

I've flown on CC-CEK before (back when she was the only bird in the new colors), and it was a great flight, despite being in the middle in a non-reclining seat. CC-CCZ, I've never flown on, but it'll be nice to add a Pratt & Whitney-powered 767 to my logbook. CC-CPF, at only a a year and three-quarters of age, is one of the newer A319s, right?
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:59 am

Now that I have an idea of which aircraft I'll be flying on, I have another question. When I go to select my seat on the MIA-LIM and UIO-MIA flights, Lan shows me the same exact interior configurations, which probably won't be the case since CC-CEK is a three-class bird and CC-CCZ only has two.

The seat map I'm seeing has rows 12-38, with 38 only being middle seating and no seating on the left-hand side of the airplane in rows 15-16. Does this interior apply to either CC-CEK or CC-CCZ? If not, does that mean I can expect a different seat assignment upon arriving at the airport?
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:50 am

Can't help with the Boeing 767-300 flights but I recently flew one of their newer A319s between LIM and CUZ and I quite enjoyed the flight. The seats were leather with headrests and the legroom and recline was fantastic. Flying time was only an hour but an episode of "laughs" was shown on the LCD's and a complimentary snack of two cupcakes, bread sticks, and chocolate was served.

Hope you enjoy your flights, LAN is a great airline.

I'll be flying them again between CUZ and LIM in a couple of weeks but next March I'll be flying them down to SCL from JFK via LIM and looking very much forward to those flights.
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:04 am

My family takes Lan every time we fly to Peru. From the flights I've been on, they really deserve their reputation as one of Latin America's finest carriers.

Actually, we had the option of flying LIM-GYE, then GYE-UIO-MIA, but I preferred flying LIM-UIO, then UIO-MIA. That would give me my first flight on an A319 (and a taste of Lan's short-haul service) and eliminate a stop.

Now that I think about it, what's Lan's position on in-flight cockpit visits? Since the LIM-UIO flight doesn't traverse American airspace, nor does the flight continue on to the United States, would a cockpit visit be allowed? Considering that cockpit visits are usually at the discretion of the flight crew, are Lan crews known for allowing people up there during flight? On my last flights with Lan, I was able to go up to the flight deck after landing, but it would presumably be a completely different experience to do so in flight.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:45 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 10):
I was able to go up to the flight deck after landing

Yes, if you ask nicely  Wink

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 10):
what's Lan's position on in-flight cockpit visits

No, no, and no  no  !
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:49 am

Quoting Acontador (Reply 11):
No, no, and no no  no  !

Is this company policy or Chilean regulation?

Maybe I'll have better luck on my LIM-CUZ and CUZ-LIM flights with AeroCondor. I would've taken Lan for those two flights, but I wasn't going to pass up what may be my only chance to fly on a 737-200.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:37 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Maybe I'll have better luck on my LIM-CUZ and CUZ-LIM flights with AeroCondor. I would've taken Lan for those two flights, but I wasn't going to pass up what may be my only chance to fly on a 737-200.

When will you be in Cusco?
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:11 pm

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 13):
When will you be in Cusco?

From the 7th to the 12th. Most of it will be spent on tours to and around Macchu Picchu, though.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:33 pm

Yes the CC-CPF is one of the newer A319.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Is this company policy or Chilean regulation?

Company policy. However you can request a visit to the cockpit on ground specially after landling.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:57 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 14):
From the 7th to the 12th. Most of it will be spent on tours to and around Macchu Picchu, though.

I've been in Cusco from June 19th and will be here to July 29th. I was going to suggest that perhaps I could take a picture of your arriving aircraft. Do you get in at 7:30 or 12:00?
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:09 am

I just flew last friday from MIA - SCL and I didint PTV or anything.. I had the luck of flying on the newest interiors of the Boeing 767-300ER.. They were awesome! There were defintely more space between the seats.. The PTV were larger and had much more movie selections and other things.. The seats were also newly designed.. Just a fabulous flight.. Thanks LAN!!
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:17 am

I just flew last friday from MIA - SCL and I didint PTV or anything.. I had the luck of flying on the newest interiors of the Boeing 767-300ER.. They were awesome! There were defintely more space between the seats.. The PTV were larger and had much more movie selections and other things.. The seats were also newly designed.. Just a fabulous flight.. Thanks LAN!!

[Edited 2007-07-03 17:18:38]
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:37 am

Quoting Felipemia89 (Reply 17):
I just flew last friday from MIA - SCL and I didint PTV or anything.. I had the luck of flying on the newest interiors of the Boeing 767-300ER.. They were awesome! There were defintely more space between the seats.. The PTV were larger and had much more movie selections and other things.. The seats were also newly designed.. Just a fabulous flight.. Thanks LAN!!

I flew LAX-SCL non stop over 2 weeks ago with the new cabin. The PTV where amazing, however, I will disagree that there was more seat space. (As I flew an older 763 on the return flight)
On the new plane, I was fighting for arm rest space with my neighbor, and the seats itself was too firm for such a long haul flight, and it felt a bit a narrow. And I am average height and weight!
The old bird, which I thought was in need of an upgrade, (graffiti on the tray tables, worn out seats covers etc) Though over all comfort was a touch better.
Again, the PTV system is fantastic, and I have not stop talking about it to my friends. Makes a 11 hour flight go right by.
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:53 am

Quoting Jmy007 (Reply 19):
On the new plane, I was fighting for arm rest space with my neighbor, and the seats itself was too firm for such a long haul flight

That would be my main critique, too! The new seats are just not good enough for more than 3 hours, way to thin (and thus had to be made harder), which also goes for the armrests. And there is definately not more space in between seats when compared with the older one, which for me is too little (I am also average on size and weight), especially when compared to AA, DL or LH on their long haul flights in Y.
I also agree that the PTV is very good, and the overall look of the new interior (especially lighting) does stand out nicely.
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:34 am

Quoting Jmy007 (Reply 19):
I flew LAX-SCL non stop

If you fly on the new 3xweekly JFK-SCL or the 5xweekly LAX-SCL flights I'm pretty sure you will be guaranteed to be on one of the newer 767-300s with the new interior because those two flights along with the MAD-SCL, SCL-SYD/AKL are among the longest operated by the airline.

Carlos,

I realized earlier today that I will be away on the 7th but I will be able to catch your departure on the 12th.
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:11 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 21):
If you fly on the new 3xweekly JFK-SCL or the 5xweekly LAX-SCL flights I'm pretty sure you will be guaranteed to be on one of the newer 767-300s with the new interior

Nothing guarantee that the newest 763s and retrofit 763 operate in the longest routes. Flights as SCL-LAX, SCL-JFK, GYE-MAD or the new LIM-MAD are served by the older and newest 763s. Of course today are more chance that you can fly in a retrofit LAN 763, because there are 12 planes with the new interiors (LAN operates 19 763s).
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:28 pm

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 21):
I realized earlier today that I will be away on the 7th but I will be able to catch your departure on the 12th.

My outbound flight is Q6 238, departing at 07:15.

Thanks to everyone who's helped out in this thread, especially RJ_Delta for getting me the registrations!

I'm still hoping for a last-minute change to an aircraft with PTVs, though. I can live without them, but they can really help speed up a flight. If not, I have a travel guide to Peru to read on the way and a wonderful view of the sunset over the Pacific Ocean.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:36 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 23):
Thanks to everyone who's helped out in this thread, especially RJ_Delta for getting me the registrations!

I'm still hoping for a last-minute change to an aircraft with PTVs

Your welcome. At this moment your aircraft for Thursday is the CC-CEK.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:25 pm

Quoting RJ_Delta (Reply 24):
Your welcome. At this moment your aircraft for Thursday is the CC-CEK.

Since it seems like it's going to be CC-CEK after all, I have another question:

Right now, my mother and I have reserved seats 36D and 36F through Lan's web site. According to the seat map they're showing, seats 15A/C and 16A/C don't exist because that's where the crew rest compartment is supposed to be. This is the case on CC-CCZ, but from photos I've been able to find on the "other" site, there is no crew rest compartment on CC-CEK, so seats 15A/C/ and 16 A/C do exist. Theoretically, these four seats are unreservable until you get to the airport, so I'm hoping to arrive early enough to be able to ask if they're available, since I'd rather not sit in the middle of the very back of the airplane. Are these standard seats or emergency exit seats, though? If they are emergency exits, is the recline affected at all? What's the minimum age to sit at an emergency exit seat?
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:53 am

Brief update:

I flew on flight LP 515 on Thursday, July 5th with no problems. The aircraft was CC-CEK, and I sat in 36F for the five and a half hour flight. Despite being in the middle seat at the back of the airplane (I always seem to get a middle seat when flying on CC-CEK), it was a comfortable ride and I slept through most of it. When I was awake, I had a chance to experience the great service that Lan is known for, and a so-so inflight meal.

On my return, I'll be flying by myself since my mother's staying in Peru for another week and a half or so, but my flights are still the same. Are the aircraft still programmed to be CC-CPF and CC-CCZ?
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:34 am

Quoting RJ_Delta (Reply 5):
The LAN's 763 with new interiors are:

CC-CBJ
CC-CDM
CC-CDP
CC-CML
CC-CRH
CC-CZU
CC-CZW
CC-CWF
CC-CWG
CC-CWH
CC-CWN
CC-CWV

....and CC-CTZ is currently being reconfigured.

Tod
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:49 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 26):
On my return, I'll be flying by myself since my mother's staying in Peru for another week and a half or so, but my flights are still the same. Are the aircraft still programmed to be CC-CPF and CC-CCZ?

Your aircraft are LP580 CC-CPQ and for XL516 your plane is the CC-CWH, so finally you can enjoy the LAN's new interiors and new IFE.

So I hope that you don't have any problems in UIO, because the flight LP580 is delayed 3 hours.

Quoting Tod (Reply 27):
and CC-CTZ is currently being reconfigured.

The CC-CTZ doesn't exist, maybe do you refer to the CC-CZT and the CC-CZT is flying now.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:23 pm

Quoting RJ_Delta (Reply 28):
Your aircraft are LP580 CC-CPQ and for XL516 your plane is the CC-CWH, so finally you can enjoy the LAN's new interiors and new IFE.

So I hope that you don't have any problems in UIO, because the flight LP580 is delayed 3 hours.

I came up for check-in at approximately 9:40 AM this morning, exactly three hours before my flight was to depart. The check-in agent told me that flight LP580 was delayed by 4 hours, and that there was no way I'd make my connection on to MIA.

Before I had a chance to react, she told me that she was re-booking me on flight LP510, nonstop between MIA and LIM. The flight left two hours before my original flight, and would get me to MIA an amazing 6 hours ahead of schedule (and at a more reasonable 5:00 PM instead of 01:00 AM). Boarding was just beginning, so I ran to Gate 18 and was greeted by Boeing 767-38E/ER CC-CIO, still with the old interiors and without PTVs.

On top of being immediately re-booked onto an earlier, nonstop flight, I got a seat in row 12. Row 12, being a bulkhead row, has a lot better legroom than the average economy class seat, but I ended up moving to a window seat in row 13 so that a family could stay together, and I preferred a window seat with standard legroom to a middle seat with great legroom. Throughout the course of the flight, I slept, listened to my iPod and read about half of Richard Wright's book Black Boy; I never longed for a PTV. The in-flight meal consisted of a roll of bread, fettuccine alfredo with chicken, and some sort of South American dessert that I couldn't readily identify, but was tasty nonetheless.

The service, from check-in to arrival at MIA, was top-notch, as always, and I was pleasantly surprised to be given an earlier, non-stop (read: more convenient) flight. While I do lament missing out on a visit to UIO and flying on an aircraft with the new interiors, it was a great experience that reminds me why I haven't flown any other airline to Peru since LP started flying.
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:36 pm

Quoting RJ_Delta (Reply 28):
Quoting Tod (Reply 27):
and CC-CTZ is currently being reconfigured.

The CC-CTZ doesn't exist, maybe do you refer to the CC-CZT and the CC-CZT is flying now.

Doh  banghead  My error, you are correct CC-CZT not CC-CTZ.

If it is flying now, it just entered service because I have paper on my desk showing reconfiguration issues still being addressed just a few days ago.

CC-CEB is also undergoing its reconfiguration.

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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:06 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 30):
CC-CEB is also undergoing its reconfiguration.

Yes the -CEB is in maintenance and retrofit now. I saw it last week.

Also the CC-CZT still with the old interiors.

[Edited 2007-07-17 20:12:52]
 
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RE: Flying Lan This Week: Chance Of New Interiors?

Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:26 am

I am flying LAN at the end of the year: LAX - Peru - GRU. Are these being flown with their newer 767s? I mean will there be at least PVTs? I have never flown an airplane with such a feature.

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