peh
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Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:29 pm

I find these business jet mock-ups entertaining but also a little insulting. I know that anything is possible if you throw enough money around but will we ever see anything like this in the air?

Big version: Width: 540 Height: 300 File size: 22kb


Someone should put together a website for all of the empty airline mock-ups that have come out of various airline marketing departments. God knows there'd be enough material.

http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3800.asp?id=13430
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:34 pm

Thats a garage underneath not a pool
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:41 pm

I know.

I'm being sarcastic in referring to the unrealistic promises made by airlines over the years. I think the 747 mock-ups that included a swimming pool?? We've seen everything from swimming pools to three-ring circuses offered since.
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:42 pm

Many options are offered for the 787 as there are for the a380



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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:07 pm

Quoting Peh (Thread starter):
I find these business jet mock-ups entertaining but also a little insulting.

You're a bit late for the party.....
RE: 787i Bimmer For Russian Tycoon (by DEVILFISH Apr 18 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting Peh (Thread starter):
I know that anything is possible if you throw enough money around but will we ever see anything like this in the air?

Well, if this guy was shown that 788i concept to entice him to buy, only to be told later that he couldn't have it even if he wanted it, I bet he wouldn't be very pleased.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...sen-for-second-boeing-787-vip.html

I think many here would like to see the interiors he has commissioned for his custom 788.

Anyway, private billionaire fantasies stand better chances of turning into reality than airline gimmicks.
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:06 am

Actually that picture isn't ridiculous at alll. If some tycoon wants everyone to see what latest car they have accquired, or can't bared to be without it, then its perfect. Your just looking into the cargo hold, and yes they can fit most cars down there.
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:10 am

Watch em' try and put a golf course in the A380 or something. Wouldn't be surprised at all.
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:15 am

Quoting CXB744 (Reply 5):
Actually that picture isn't ridiculous at alll. If some tycoon wants everyone to see what latest car they have accquired, or can't bared to be without it, then its perfect. Your just looking into the cargo hold, and yes they can fit most cars down there.

It is also good for checking whether someone stole the car during the flight.  Wink
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:23 am

Maybe all aircraft should have glass floors so we can watch our bags get (miss?) handled or forgotten?
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:31 am

They have glass bottom boats, why not glass bottom planes?
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:33 am

Quoting Peh (Reply 2):
I'm being sarcastic in referring to the unrealistic promises made by airlines over the years.

It's not for an airline but for a private customer. The glass (plexi/safety) floor for the garage "ceiling" is not impossible, actually wouldn't cost much to do based on the 787 structure. It's part of the reason it's done in mock-up, to show the flexibility that the plastic jet provides for modifiers.

And yes, people with these types of VIP jets DO put their cars downstairs.

So I really don't understand your rant. Are you jealous of wasteful rich people?
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:49 pm

I thought someone already did the pool thing. The water is held in a tank and then pumped in to the pool after they are at a certain altitude. If the aircraft turns suddenly the sides all have dump systems. I'm not sure I could feel comfortable swimming in an a/c.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:02 pm

They should include that floor with the airline versions. It might help some of the baggage problems if those guys new they were being watched! I can already hear the passengers:

"What the @#&! Stop beating up my Gucci luggage!!!" Big grin
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:08 pm

Quoting XJETFlyer (Reply 11):
I thought someone already did the pool thing. The water is held in a tank and then pumped in to the pool after they are at a certain altitude. If the aircraft turns suddenly the sides all have dump systems. I'm not sure I could feel comfortable swimming in an a/c.

What a waste. Think of how many gallons of fuel it takes to haul all those gallons of water for one person or a handful of people to go swimming in the middle of the sky.
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:27 pm

The size of your swimming pool in liters will be limited to the Maximum structural payload:

So here is the size:
767-300ER 43799 liters
787-800 45359
777-200LR 63956

All numbers from Boeing site.
 
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:47 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
Are you jealous of wasteful rich people?

Absolutely and unashamedly.
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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:56 pm

If you have an open pool, you basically have to show that spilling like 20m³ of water cause no harm to the aircraft's systems. Something that is highly unlikely imho.

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RE: Here We Go Again! Swimming Pool With Your 787?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:08 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
The glass (plexi/safety) floor for the garage "ceiling" is not impossible, actually wouldn't cost much to do based on the 787 structure. It's part of the reason it's done in mock-up, to show the flexibility that the plastic jet provides for modifiers.

It wouldn't really be too hard to do with any of the current crop of commercial aircraft made from aluminium alloy either. The floor boards in aircraft such as the 747 do not carry any structural loads whatsoever (besides the weight of a person), so there would be no reason why the floorboards could not be replaced with a piece of polycarbonate for example.

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