helvknight
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LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:58 pm

LHR is to trial RFID bag tags to compare accuracy and read rates against the conventional bar code system

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/06/heathrow_rfid/

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Using RFID is more expensive than printed labels, but savings should come from being able to automatically read the labels as the bags pass by, and update the information stored on the tag without recourse to a central database.

The International Air Transport Association reckons RFID will save airlines £400m a year, though some of that will be offset by the higher costs.
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RE: LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:20 pm

The use of RFID tags by LH and other airlines may be well worth the relatively small but higher costs if it significantly reduces the rate of lost or misshipped luggage or cargo and the costs to make corrections. The re-transport of misshipped bags on fights to get them where they should have gone, getting them delivered to pax to their home or hotel as well as other internal labor costs are not cheap. Reducing baggage handling errors also has the benefit of keeping the pax-customers happy and encourage repeat business from them. In today's competitive airline environment, one must look at every edge to improve customer service that is affordable and may lead to long-term savings.
 
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RE: LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:53 pm

Can anyone provide airports or airlines that use this and how it works? Now if I am flying from somehwere to/throguh LHR and they don't print me a RFID tag I assume it will be able to be read by the bar code and viceversa if they print me a RFID tag will it also have a readable bar code?
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RE: LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:56 pm

Read the article but still don't quite understand how it works... anyone know more?
 
helvknight
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RE: LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:04 pm

Quoting Vasu (Reply 3):
Read the article but still don't quite understand how it works... anyone know more?

I would imagine that the RFID tag (a very small chip) would be embedded in the normal bar code bag tag.
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RE: LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:22 am

I hope that usage of RFID be more environmentally friendly than the conventional bar code bag tags.
 
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RE: LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:37 am

Quoting Vasu (Reply 3):
Read the article but still don't quite understand how it works... anyone know more?

The RFID at LHR could be different but at HKG they put a sticker about the size of a credit card on my bag and it had a very small black lump in the middle with 2 metallic strips coming off the sides.
 
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RE: LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:05 am

RFID is a small "chip" which, in this application, can be embedded into a standard baggage tag attached to a bag. These chips carry data that can be used to uniquely identify the bag and thus its destination during sortation and tracking. The data on the tag can be electronically set up during the checkin process, and then that data can be interrogated by sensors placed within reasonable proximity (up to several meters) of the bag without needing to make contact with the bag, the tag or the chip - i.e. by sensors above or at the side of baggage belts, etc. This means that bags can be sorted or tracked very quickly and efficiently as they pass by sensors.

Las Vegas McCarran is one of the leading users of RFID tags for baggage sortation.

A major problem until now has been the tags cost - OK, current costs of $0.05-$0.10 each don't sound much, but it adds up! The cost is ever decreasing to the point where it is now making the technology more viable to be used on the millions of bags handled by airlines globally every day.

Whilst trials and live use of RFID at individual airports have been very successful (in terms of efficiency and loss/misdirection rates), the real challenge is that until EVERY airport is equipped with RFID sensor technology in its baggage sortation and management systems, baggage cannot be tracked throughout its journey using this technology - its all very well, for example, for LAS to be able to track a bag from checkin desk to airplane, but what happens when the bag arrives in [say] LAX? This means that whilst the technology is very beneficial, it cannot be exploited fully at present, and that the baggage tags also have to have standard bar coding etc so that the can be sorted at non-RFID equipped airports. And until IATA define a standard for RFID tagging of bags, there is a risk that various airports (including LHR and LAS) might implement differing RFID standards that would make their respective systems incompatible.

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RE: LHR To Trial Rfid Bag Tags

Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:42 am

I like the quote in the linked article in the original post...

"as the luggage makes it's way around the world, sometimes even to the same destination as the passenger."

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Reminds me of a piece of graffiti addeed to a BA advert poster on the London Underground many years ago. The advert carried the slogan..." British Airways - Breakfast in London, Lunch in New York" to which some comedian had added "Yeah! and luggage in Bermuda!"
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