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L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:53 pm

It's been a while since I've seen the aged beauties grace our skies:

Can anyone say if these are banned in Europe? are there any European operaters of the Trijets, with Aircraft based in Europe?

The RAF have them, but as these are classed as military Aircraft, there covered under different regulations.
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:58 pm

Early june, Jetairfly used a portuguese Tristar from Luzair when their 767 was grounded due to technical problems...
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:59 pm

Aren't there still a couple on the Portuguese register?
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:12 pm

TZ still flys their L-1011s over Europe, and I believe they refuel at SNN.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:23 pm

Most mainline carriers stopped using the L-1011 in the mid to late 90's-2001, but there are some charter operators still using them in addition to cargo operators and the military /hospital transports. The L-1011 production line shut down in 1983 and since not as many were produced as the DC-10 for example, not as many parts are available and companies are left to cannibalise existing airframes in order to furnish parts. And those parts are getting more difficult to come by. One of my favorite birds!  bigthumbsup 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:23 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 2):
Aren't there still a couple on the Portuguese register?

 checkmark  Luzair and Euro Atlantic Airways should still have them.
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:37 am

Quoting Iflyatldl (Reply 4):
One of my favorite birds! bigthumbsup

Its a shame to see these wonderful jets getting less and less . I remember at LHR when I was a kid watching BA/AC/TP/UL. And then there was the BW ''Sunjet''. From what I remember AC used to run them LHR to NCE !!
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:49 am

I was lucky enough to fly on British Airtours and Delta TriStars.

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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:55 am

Quoting PM (Reply 7):
I was lucky enough to fly on British Airtours and Delta TriStars. Hang on - did I say "lucky"?! Great plane - two miserable experiences!

Exactly the same - great plane, but I flew her with Delta (horrible beyond words) and Gulf Air (OK but I was sick).
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:50 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
TZ still flys their L-1011s over Europe, and I believe they refuel at SNN.

Very True, but these are mostly military charters.
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:02 am

Quoting PM (Reply 7):
Delta TriStars.

Oh yeah I forgot , I flew DL tristar from IAD-JFK in F class which was fantastic and then flew LAX-ATL-FRA in Y class. I actually had good flights with DL.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:08 am

GLOBE JET AIRLINES is still flying 3 Tristar L1011-500 (OD-MIR, OD-JOE & OD-ZEE). They can be seen here and there in Europe (WAW, BUD, MAD, GRO)


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So the answer to the original question asked is " No, L1011 Tristar are not banned in Europe ... They are just becoming more and more rare, like all other old aircraft".
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:14 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 11):
EURO ATLANTIC AIRWAYS is also still flying a L1011-500 (CS-TEB)

Hi FlySSC,

this aircraft is actually stored in Rio de Janeiro airport on repair after used to substitute during a pair of months the 767 of Pluna.

Don't forget LUZAIR which is flying a L1011-500 (CS-TMP and CS-TMR). The first is normally used on behalf PIA and Virgin Nigeria on Hadj flights; the last is stored in Amsterdam.

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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:31 pm

Why is this topic discused here?......it seems it belongs at the Aviation polls forum. It denotes need for attention, who has such supreme authority to ban any type of aircraft from the Sky's of so many countries? Please.....  eyebrow 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:48 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
TZ still flys their L-1011s over Europe, and I believe they refuel at SNN

They do. I frequently see them there. They stop for refuelling on military charters.
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:08 pm

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 8):
Exactly the same - great plane, but I flew her with Delta (horrible beyond words) and Gulf Air (OK but I was sick).

I had a good experience on the L1011. I love the sound of the engines most.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:45 pm

ATA also fly their L1011's to Europe on charter flights.
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:57 pm

TCX had one until a year or so ago and they did routes such as MAN-YYC and other routes within Europe and Carribean destinations, so not unless something has happened in the last year.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:32 pm

i believe that the raf operates a weekly service from brize norton to the falkland islands which i would imagine use a tristar
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:40 pm

Quoting F4f3a (Reply 18):
i believe that the raf operates a weekly service from brize norton to the falkland islands which i would imagine use a tristar

I started a thread a while back about the RAF services to the Falklands and it was said that they use a A330 from a charter airline now . Not sure what the present situation is though. Id love to get on one.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:47 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
they use a A330 from a charter airline now

That was Air Luxor, now defunct. That A330 is now owned by HiFly (also Portuguese) flying Australian troops to/from Afghanistan. The Falkland flights should be carried by someone else, as HiFly only has one plane.
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:47 pm

The L-1011's are pretty rare here in the USA also. I live in Las Vegas and I remember back in the mid-90's we used to get alot of them landing here at LAS. Rich International, ATA, Air Canada, Royal, Airtransat, Worldways Canada, Hawaiian, TWA and Delta all flew them in here regularly. I remember flying the L-1011 between SFO and LAX on PSA with the plane being referred to as "Mother Grinningbird" because all the PSA jets had a smile painted below their nose. Those were the good old days.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:31 pm

Can't think of any reason why as a a/c type the Tristar would be banned from the EU. Certainly not for noise or emission reasons. It's just simply a rare and endangered species of bird.
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:50 pm

As far as I know, Tora Bora of The Congo still operate Tristar services into BRU.
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:00 pm

Quoting Bruspotter (Reply 23):
As far as I know, Tora Bora of The Congo still operate Tristar services into BRU.

Hewa Bora Airlines (don't be wrong with the Afghanistan city  Smile ) operates only once a week flight operated with 330 equipment. Leased or purchased from who, when, where, how?????

Last notices were that EO operated 762ER ex-Air Gabon to BRU.

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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:03 pm

Quoting Arecibo (Reply 13):
Why is this topic discused here?......it seems it belongs at the Aviation polls forum. It denotes need for attention, who has such supreme authority to ban any type of aircraft from the Sky's of so many countries? Please.....   

Take a chill pill, dude. If the mods think it should be moved, they'll move it.

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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:24 pm

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 8):
I flew her with Delta (horrible beyond words)

So did I, and my experience wasn't any better than yours.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:59 am

RAF still operates L1011's and VC10's between Brize norton and YYC at least twice or three times weekly.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:11 am

Flew a TriStar from DL from DFW through to LAX in the early 90's. I seem to remember that the cabinet was huge, but the plane was really creaking at every airpocket. I also seem to remember having a near miss(the plan turned and dived very suddenly. I knew it was a situation because the flight attendants looked at each other as if we had just surviveded something not so nice.

Beautiful plane to watch during takeoff and landing.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:16 am

I loved them and flew them... always a great experience on the Eastern and TWA L-1011s
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:52 pm

To my knowledge the EU does not have a policy of blanket banning a particular aircraft...

They will ban an airline or a particular type of its aircraft from flying if they have knowledge the aircrafts have not been maintained correctly.

Maybe to protect Airbus, they should ban all 787's from European skies!  Wink
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:17 pm

If I remember well there was an issue with the Euroatlantic Tristars maintenance about two years ago, I saw them grounded at Lisbon January 2006. But no principle ban - the last civil will leave a European Airport some day and not even know it was the last. RAF I expect to remain the longest as European registered planes.

Had quite some good flights on the "whispering giants" - that is how LTU called them.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting HAWAIIAN932 (Reply 21):
The L-1011's are pretty rare here in the USA also. I live in Las Vegas

You have Sheldon's L1011 there now along with the 747SP,don't complian  Smile

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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:42 pm

Whatever happened to "Air Scotland"'s supposed L1011 service from GLA to YYZ,JFK etc....just fell off the map...would have been nice to see that.
 
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RE: L1011 - Banned In Europe?

Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:58 pm

What's going on with 'Transatlantic Airways' ex-DL L1011 from VCV ???
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