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25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:52 am

On 7/9/82, Pan Am's Boeing 727-200 "Clipper Defiance" crashed on departure from MSY due to wind shear. 154 people were killed. The aircraft was routing MIA-MSY-LAS-SFO. My next door neighbor was one of the police chief's who worked the crash scene.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl070807jbpanam.569e55f1.html

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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:38 am

Also, on a related note, one of my former coworkers at Vanguard was the gate agent working 759. He had over 20 years with National before ending up with PA.
 
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:42 am

I was in the Ionosphere Club in ATL when it came on CNN.
 
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:56 am

Excellent report about the crash. What a horrible tragedy.
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:04 am

I can remember that day vividly and what a sad and tragic accident it was. I was working for the company that provided the airport van shuttle service at the time and we always monitored 870 am news radio in the office and I still remember the very first report of the crash saying that a plane had crash landed on Williams Blvd but the first reports made it sound like it was not an airliner; sadly how wrong they were. I used to drive by that neighborhood every now and then, and for years there were two houses one on each caddy corner that were destroyed but not rebuilt, and these lots remained vacant so you could always tell the flight path of the aircraft. Still makes me sad to think about it. That TV news video brought back those memories again and especially of Father Rogers, because I remember that photo in the Times-Picayune of him giving the last rites to a victim; very moving picture. RIP to the passengers, crew and the residents lost.
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:26 pm

I was still in school at Embry-Riddle, and the thing I remember were the aerial shots taken from a helicopter that was circling nearby.

We live about five miles from the neighborhood where 759 went down, and while most of the area has been rebuilt, a few vacant lots remain. I'll try to run over there on my way into work tomorrow and post a couple of pictures of the area.

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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:35 pm

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 5):
I was still in school at Embry-Riddle, and the thing I remember were the aerial shots taken from a helicopter that was circling nearby.

We live about five miles from the neighborhood where 759 went down, and while most of the area has been rebuilt, a few vacant lots remain. I'll try to run over there on my way into work tomorrow and post a couple of pictures of the area.

Tom at MSY

I take it there is no memorial there? I know a memorial would be the last thing thought of during the rebuilding process, but do you think it has ever been discussed by the city? Also, is wind shear the for sure cause of the crash? I have heard of wind shear being the cause of crashes during landing, but takeoff?
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:04 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 6):
I have heard of wind shear being the cause of crashes during landing, but takeoff?

Here you go.............

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19820709-0

Also, there have been others on takeoff. A CO 727 (or maybe DC9) out of Denver Stapleton comes to mind.
 
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:29 am

Quoting Cubastar (Reply 7):
Also, there have been others on takeoff. A CO 727 (or maybe DC9) out of Denver Stapleton comes to mind.

There was CO DC9 that crashed on takeoff at DEN in 1987, but the cause was ice on the wings during a blizzard.
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:36 am

Quoting 747buff (Reply 8):
Quoting Cubastar (Reply 7):
Also, there have been others on takeoff. A CO 727 (or maybe DC9) out of Denver Stapleton comes to mind.

There was CO DC9 that crashed on takeoff at DEN in 1987, but the cause was ice on the wings during a blizzard.

CAL or UAL or maybe both had non-fatal WS accidents in DEN,late 70's early 80's
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:43 am

Quoting 747buff (Reply 8):
There was CO DC9 that crashed on takeoff at DEN in 1987, but the cause was ice on the wings during a blizzard.

My Dad was a mechanic for CO and was at work when Flt 1713 crashed


Very sad... Both crashes that is  candle 

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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:46 am

F9animal: there is a memorial there.....it's location wasn't widely known (I had tried to find it before, but never could). I had heard it was on a property in which the house had been destroyed in the crash. A newspaper article today mentioned that it's in the courtyard of a nearby church, which tells me it might have been relocated at some point. I'll post a picture of it tomorrow, as well as a couple pictures of the neighborhod that I took today.

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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:01 am

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 11):
F9animal: there is a memorial there.....it's location wasn't widely known (I had tried to find it before, but never could). I had heard it was on a property in which the house had been destroyed in the crash. A newspaper article today mentioned that it's in the courtyard of a nearby church, which tells me it might have been relocated at some point. I'll post a picture of it tomorrow, as well as a couple pictures of the neighborhod that I took today.

Tom at MSY

Thanks Tom! I need to get out to visit MSY soon. That would be one of my planned visits. If you find it, that would be great if you could clue me in to where it is located. I also want to invest some money into the economy. Not to get off the subject, but how is everything going out there in your neck of the woods? I can't wait to see the pics!  Smile
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:35 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
On 7/9/82, Pan Am's Boeing 727-200 "Clipper Defiance" crashed on departure from MSY due to wind shear. 154 people were killed.

May the memory of those who perished forever be a blessing.  candle 
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:08 am

Quoting Cubastar (Reply 7):
Also, there have been others on takeoff. A CO 727 (or maybe DC9) out of Denver Stapleton comes to mind.



Quoting 747buff (Reply 8):
There was CO DC9 that crashed on takeoff at DEN in 1987, but the cause was ice on the wings during a blizzard.

I think that this is the one that I was talking about.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19750807-0
 
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:47 am

Here are some pictures of the memorial, as well as a couple of the neighborhood where the plane went down:

The monument is located in the courtyard of a church located a mile or so from the actual crash site. The actual memorial is the curved wall (with the names of the victims) and the statue of Jesus. The bell tower is not part of the memorial:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/tmoore065/DSC04800.jpg?t=1184172058

Some flowers had been placed at the memorial a couple of days ago on the anniversary:



Here are a couple of the neighborhood where the plane went down. I couldn't find any vacant lots (there might be a couple that I didn't see) in the area. Also, I'm positive that I remember reading something about either a memorial, or more likely a marker, that is somewhere in the neighborhood. I'm guessing it's in somebody's backyard.....either way, it's not something that street signs give directions to:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/tmoore065/DSC04794.jpg?t=1184172313
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/tmoore065/DSC04795.jpg?t=1184172343

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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:53 am

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 15):
Here are some pictures of the memorial, as well as a couple of the neighborhood where the plane went down:

The monument is located in the courtyard of a church located a mile or so from the actual crash site. The actual memorial is the curved wall (with the names of the victims) and the statue of Jesus. The bell tower is not part of the memorial:

That memorial is very nice! Excellent pictures, and certainly touching. Thanks Tom, and welcome to my respect list!
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 16):
That memorial is very nice! Excellent pictures, and certainly touching. Thanks Tom, and welcome to my respect list!

Thanks for the props!

Just dug this up, as well:

http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/2007/07/crash071007.gif

This graphic wasn't in yesterday's paper (at least in my edition), but I found it at the local paper's blog.....as well as a link to the article (minus the graphic) that did make the paper:

http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/...rash_anniversary_draws_little.html

Tom at MSY

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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:14 am

Quoting Cubastar (Reply 14):
I think that this is the one that I was talking about.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/...807-0

My bad, I wasn't aware of that crash until you posted the link.
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RE: 25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759

Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:11 am

Quoting 747buff (Reply 18):
My bad, I wasn't aware of that crash until you posted the link.

Hey.....not your bad. We're all in this together to learn, reminisce, enlighten and enjoy. Planes rule Andrew. Ciao!