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Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:27 am

I found a list of 7 LAS routes where Allegiant will add frequency during the Nov-Feb period. Some are only for the month of December while others last that whole period. I know some a.netters like STLGph are aware of some of these increases but thought I would post the whole list.

Monday service to and from Billings, Mont., Dec. 3-31;
Thursday flights to and from Bismarck, N.D. Nov. 29 through Jan. 3;
Wednesday service to and from Fargo, N.D., Nov. 14 through Feb. 6;
Wednesday and Saturday flights to and from Fort Collins, Colo., Nov. 10 through Jan. 5;
Friday service to and from Missoula, Mont., Nov. 16 through Jan. 4;
Wednesday and Saturday service to and from Rapid City, S.D., Nov. 14 through Feb. 6;
and Thursday and Sunday service Nov. 22 through Jan. 6 and Saturday flights Nov. 4 through Feb. 10 to and from Wichita, Kan.

http://www.inbusinesslasvegas.com/2007/07/13/tourism.html
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Wi

Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:18 am

Dont forget NFR (national finals rodeo) is the second week in December, that might be the reason some are Dec. only (that and snowbirds).
 
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:34 am

Quoting SirOmega (Reply 1):
Dont forget NFR (national finals rodeo) is the second week in December, that might be the reason some are Dec. only (that and snowbirds).

Yep, mentioned in the article I linked as a partial reason since it happens Dec. 6-15. It also mentions New Year's Eve as a partial reason.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:57 am

Bummer, no LAN. Any idea how LAN has been performing on the LAS route, or for that matter SFB/PIE?
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:03 pm

Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):

Sioux Falls and Springfield Missouri also see increases.

Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):
Wednesday and Saturday service to and from Rapid City, S.D., Nov. 14 through Feb. 6

It really does surprise me that Rapid City does this well for them, I must say.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:11 pm

Other tidbits I noticed --

Redmond to Las Vegas goes to Sunday/Thursdays only in the fall, no more Tuesdays.

Green Bay really goes nuts. Basically their schedule almost depends on the week. They go from their traditional 3 flights weekly to anywhere from 2 per week, to 5 per week. You literally have to go to Allegiant.com to follow along.

McAllen also is affected with seasonal schedules -- going from 6, down to 4, then back up to 5, and then back up to 6 eventually again.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:03 pm

Those months are very popular for conventions and NFR. Good to see G4 flexing itself to digest those extra passengers! LOL!
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:12 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 6):

Yes, however, I thought February and March were the largest convention months?
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 7):
Yes, however, I thought February and March were the largest convention months?

One of the largest is January 7 to 10, the International Consumer Electronics Show. They typically see 125,000 to 150,000 attendees.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:21 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 8):

NAB comes in late April. It's about the same number of attendees. But it usually runs a whole week. The subsect conferences such as RTNDA and NBE run Sun - Wed, Thu - Sat, perfect for many schedules they already have from many markets.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 7):

Yes, however, I thought February and March were the largest convention months?

I worked in LAS as a skycap for a few years for several airlines, and I made my living during Nov-Feb (tips almost doubled during conventions, and I did veeeerrry good). My tips almost doubled to the heavy loads and conventions. There was also a show called Magic (not sure if it is still going), Comdex (not sure if that is still going), NFR, CES, and tons of others. With the loads heavy during all of the differnet conventions, the leisure travelers seem to fill whatever is left .
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:29 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 10):
I worked in LAS as a skycap for a few years for several airlines, and I made my living during Nov-Feb (tips almost doubled during conventions, and I did veeeerrry good). My tips almost doubled to the heavy loads and conventions. There was also a show called Magic (not sure if it is still going), Comdex (not sure if that is still going), NFR, CES, and tons of others. With the loads heavy during all of the differnet conventions, the leisure travelers seem to fill whatever is left .

Magic is still going on, I don't think COMDEX has happened in a couple of years. There is also the Concrete Industry in January with about 75,000 attendees.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 9):
NAB comes in late April. It's about the same number of attendees. But it usually runs a whole week. The subsect conferences such as RTNDA and NBE run Sun - Wed, Thu - Sat, perfect for many schedules they already have from many markets.

What, the different broadcast media can't be in the same room together at the same time.  Smile Sorry, just kidding.

That split avoids the peaks of having the full group arrive at the same time so it doesn't cause the same situation as the whole group like CES or NFR.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:33 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 10):
Comdex (not sure if that is still going),

A quick google search reveals Comdex was suspended in 2004 but that organizers are working to put it back together. In the mean time there are several smaller events similar to Comdex including one in Vegas.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 9):
NAB comes in late April. It's about the same number of attendees. But it usually runs a whole week. The subsect conferences such as RTNDA and NBE

I have not been to NAB but I seriously doubt it is 150,000 people. And I know there can't be that many at RTNDA, I mean I doubt there are even 150,000 people in all forms of broadcast/ internet journalism across the United States.

It's Vegas, there is always conventions going on after the first of the year. I was there in January and thanks to my flight getting cancelled I was standing at the cab line on a Sunday night trying to go get a hotel room for the night. It was the longest I had ever seen the cabstand line (and I have flown in on Friday nights a couple of times before) so I asked the cabbie what was going on, he said "some convention starts tomorrow (which was a Monday), construction or cement or something I think, there are always conventions this time of year"
 
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:33 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 11):
That split avoids the peaks of having the full group arrive at the same time so it doesn't cause the same situation as the whole group like CES or NFR.

Ha. It's just too big to have all at once, facility wise. You have NAB and if you had all its subsects going on at the same time, literally every conference room would be filled between the Hilton, Wynn, Venetian, Treasure Island, and Caesar's Palace, plus the convention center. It'd be a huge deterrant and almost unmanageable.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting LV (Reply 12):
I have not been to NAB but I seriously doubt it is 150,000 people. And I know there can't be that many at RTNDA, I mean I doubt there are even 150,000 people in all forms of broadcast/ internet journalism across the United States.

Las Vegas Convention and Visitor Authority lists NAB as 140,000 attendees.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:39 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 14):
Las Vegas Convention and Visitor Authority lists NAB as 140,000 attendees.

Indeed it is.

It's astoundingly huge.

There were 142,000-ish registered attendees at this year's convention.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 4):
It really does surprise me that Rapid City does this well for them, I must say.

It still surprises me, but check this out.

That averages about 135 people going out on each flight.
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:48 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 14):
Las Vegas Convention and Visitor Authority lists NAB as 140,000 attendees.

Wow, I guess I'm going to have to eat some humble pie.  Smile
 
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RE: Allegiant Add LAS Frequency To 7 Cities For Winter

Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:02 am

Quoting LV (Reply 16):
Wow, I guess I'm going to have to eat some humble pie.

The best part is that the RTNDA sect of it is at the Las Vegas Hilton. So it's really easy to walk right out of a conference room and have a cocktail waitress swing right by, grab a bloody mary ... or 3, and go right back to work. Or, depending on how smooth you are, work while you chug!

The alcohol doesn't flow as much at the actual convention center.
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