AA54Heavy
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Earning AA Miles On BA Tatl From US

Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:57 am

As we all know, because of the anti-trust issues with the code sharing between BA and AA on TATL flights from US – LHR (and vice versa) you cannot fly BA and get the miles put onto your AA account, and vice versa.

Well, with the recent EU vote and the opening of LHR to any US airlines if they can get the slots. What does this mean for the anti-trust issues? Will we soon see the ability to code-share and earn miles while flying either BA or AA?

I called American and they have no clue to the logistics of everything and in fact at first thought that since BA is in OneWorld, it shouldn’t be a problem….rendering them clueless to reality.

The reason I ask is that I am planning a trip from SEA to FRA in a few weeks (prior to any long term changes to the policy) and have all my miles on AA, so would prefer to stay with OneWorld, but would prefer to not fly AA because of the inferior business class product. Thus, to get my miles, I’d have to fly something like SEA-YVR-LHR-FRA in order to bypass the anti-trust issues on BA.

But, is there a thought as to whether I could fly SEA-LHR-FRA and store those miles on BA, and then when the anti-trust issues evaporate, transfer them over to AA? Or is the thought that miles earned prior to the change, if there is one, would not be grandfathered in and I’d be better off trying to fly through Canada?

Thanks, I hope that made sense.
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RE: Earning AA Miles On BA Tatl From US

Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:44 am

I'd go SEA-YVR-LHR-FRA and credit to AA if you are keen on doing this and don't mind the detour. I keep a pretty close eye on the BA and AA forums on Flyertalk and so far I haven't heard anyone mention the ability to earn miles on the 'other' carrier in the future. I certainly wouldn't count on you being able to transfer the miles out of BA, you can't at the moment and I don't see this changing with Open Skies.
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RE: Earning AA Miles On BA Tatl From US

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:44 am

You could always fly SEA-JFK-MAN-FRA. You'll get points on the BA flight JFK-MAN and the BE flight MAN-FRA
 
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RE: Earning AA Miles On BA Tatl From US

Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:36 am

Quoting BigOrange (Reply 2):
You'll get points on the BA flight JFK-MAN and the BE flight MAN-FRA

He couldn't take miles on AA for the JFK-MAN segment - you can't fly BA and take miles on your AA count on any transatlantic flight to or from anywhere in the US, not just flights to or from LHR. He'd have to take the JFK-MAN miles in his BA account.
 
nickofatlanta
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RE: Earning AA Miles On BA Tatl From US

Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:38 am

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 3):
He couldn't take miles on AA for the JFK-MAN segment - you can't fly BA and take miles on your AA count on any transatlantic flight to or from anywhere in the US, not just flights to or from LHR. He'd have to take the JFK-MAN miles in his BA account.

Whilst this is true if he books the JFK-MAN flight using the BA flight number, AA54Heavy could earn AA miles for the entire trip if he/she books using the transatlantic flight with the AA codeshare flight number. This is one of the very few transatlantic flights that AA and BA codeshare on.
 
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RE: Earning AA Miles On BA Tatl From US

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:29 pm

I have to go on codeshares to get the best AA miles I can, such as on JL/BA and also I get more value accruing AA miles on an IB code-shared BA flight than if it had been the actualy BA flight number. Sometimes you get more value and percentage accruing if the ticket is the other one-world carrier number codeshared on a worse accruing one world carrier. gets confusing does it.
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exFATboy
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RE: Earning AA Miles On BA Tatl From US

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:54 pm

Quoting Nickofatlanta (Reply 4):
AA54Heavy could earn AA miles for the entire trip if he/she books using the transatlantic flight with the AA codeshare flight number.

Thanks for the info - I didn't know that AA was allowed to codeshare on any BA transatlantic flights.
Given Antitrust Division's position on the AA/BA relationship, I'm surprised this is allowed.

Might want to consider just taking AA and living with the lesser service - triple miles for AA Business or First from JFK to LHR through August 31. Might have to ticket the segments separately, the AA website makes it look like its only O&D traffic, not sure.

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 5):
gets confusing does it.

I know what you mean - if I try to fly NW or DL and take the miles on my CO account, I have to check the fare class to see what percentage credit I'm getting toward Elite status. Gives me a headache.

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