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Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:38 am

Found it today on Allegiant's Website:

(Huntsville, Ala.) - What happens in Vegas, may stay in Vegas, but it will soon start in Huntsville, Ala. as Allegiant Air today announces new nonstop jet-service to Las Vegas, Nev. beginning Sept. 21. To kick off the new service, the Las Vegas-based, low-fare airline is offering limited introductory fares as low as $89* one-way.

"We are extremely pleased to expand the Allegiant brand of low-fare, nonstop jet service within the Huntsville community and Tennessee Valley region," Maurice J. Gallagher, Allegiant Air president & CEO, said. "This is an exciting new addition for our airline and our customers as we launch the only full-size jet service between Huntsville and Las Vegas."

The new flights will operate twice weekly between Huntsville International Airport and McCarran International Airport (Las Vegas), with service Monday and Friday. Beginning Sept. 21, flights will depart Huntsville at 3 p.m. arriving in Las Vegas at 3:50 p.m. Flights leaving Las Vegas will depart at 7:50 a.m. arriving in Huntsville at 2:20 p.m. (all flight times are local).

Good News for G4 and HSV

Is there any more news on any new Mad dogs entering the fleet in the next couple of months?
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:41 am

I'm not surprised Huntsville was announced for Allegiant service ... I was under the impression Orlando would come first.
Perhaps an Orlando announcement is in the near future.
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
Perhaps an Orlando announcement is in the near future.

I would think it could come as they are prep for the winter season
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:45 am

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 2):

I imagine we're going to see a few announcements here in the next few weeks.
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:35 am

Upcoming new destination city announcements perhaps? One thing's for sure, this is going to be one heck of a busy time at Allegiant!
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:49 am

Wow great news for a place I travel to a lot, HSV. I thought all gates at HSV were taken...will they use the two at the end of the hall where you have to go down the stairs and walk out, or rent from someone for those two flights a week?
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:59 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
I was under the impression Orlando would come first.
Perhaps an Orlando announcement is in the near future.

I am not so sure about this one. As it is, the MD80s G4 is flying have been having trouble making GPT-LAS. SFB is more than 400nm further.
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:07 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
I am not so sure about this one. As it is, the MD80s G4 is flying have been having trouble making GPT-LAS. SFB is more than 400nm further.

Huntsville to Orlando ... ?
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:39 am

Wow G4 is busy this week. I am curious as to when the new focus citiy is announced, and which cities will get service. I just flew them a couple weeks ago for the first time CID-SFB and I was sold, great airline and great service.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:41 am

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 8):
I just flew them a couple weeks ago for the first time CID-SFB and I was sold, great airline and great service.

Good to hear about your experience on Allegiant. Can we expect a trip report in the near future?
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:01 am

I'm flying them tomorrow SFB-GSP. I'm planning on a trip report after I do my return next week.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:53 am

Looking forward to it Critter
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:57 am

I'm not a fan. Allegiant had 14 flights leaving at around the same time at LAS on Sunday July 8th. We were flying United and a friend was flying G4 to DSM. We arrived at the airport at 5:45am for his 8am flight. Allegiant had 4 agents outside and 6 inside for 14 flights. (10 agents total) It took my friend over an hour to check in and another 50 minutes at security, he was the last person on the flight as he almost missed it. My flight didn't leave until 9am, so I had an hour to kill. Allegiant was calling names over the intercom for last calls and it seemed to be 10-15 people per flight. I would accredit most of this to all the waiting and therefore missing the flights. It was horrible. If 2 hours and 15 minutes early wasn't enough than I don't know what is.

1st Allegiant needs to better schedule their flights out of LAS so they are spread out or get at least twice as many agents would solve that problem too.

2nd The security lines at the C concourse (southwest airlines) were not long at all and the D concourse was crazy. The airport needs to have the ability to change the lines around or have joint lines for both terminals. That would have saved maybe 30 minutes in the security line for a total of 20 minutes. Not to mention the fact that everyone was pushing and shoving and a saw 2 different people vomit in line because it was so hot and claustrophobic.

Worst part about it is they are adding onto the D concourse (Allegiant and a slue of other airlines) which will only make security even worse. I fly to LAS on United about 1 to 2 times a year and the security and Allegiant lines get worse every time I see that place. No forward looking from the airport at all. Instead of adding more gates, they should concentrate on the problems at hand like the drive lanes and all the lines and lack of space. Then maybe they can think about more flights. Slot controlling this airport would work too.

My friend said he's never flying Allegiant again! After that experience, I won't either.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:34 pm

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 12):
Worst part about it is they are adding onto the D concourse (Allegiant and a slue of other airlines) which will only make security even worse. I fly to LAS on United about 1 to 2 times a year and the security and Allegiant lines get worse every time I see that place. No forward looking from the airport at all. Instead of adding more gates, they should concentrate on the problems at hand like the drive lanes and all the lines and lack of space. Then maybe they can think about more flights. Slot controlling this airport would work too.

When Terminal 3 opens up in a few years, that should alleviate a good chunk of the security problems at the D concourse, as I believe it will be mostly airlines from this concourse that go over to T3. Until then though, LAS security will be a mess, no matter what airline you're flying. Even the First Class line (which, despite the name, is open to pretty much any elite FFer; I've flashed my Delta Silver card there several times and gone right through) can get long, with it taking 15 minutes (then again, the regular line was about 35 minutes). I don't think there's anyway to make the T3 lines go to T4 either, as I think the two concourses are walled off after security. Then again, security lines are a problem at many major O&D airports in this country with only a few terminals - MCO with it's two checkpoints can get real bad for example. The real problem isn't slots (there's still a decent amount of runway capacity and terminal capacity); it's just an inefficient security design.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:42 pm

Thanks, can't wait for the new terminal in a few years. Yes, you are right, there is a wall between the two security checkpoints but could easily be removed. Passengers would just have to pay attention to which train they get on.

As a United Premier Exec, I enjoy cutting security lines but the one in LAS is only for first class and not elites. United flies Ted on all flights to LAS so unfortunately I don't have the option to fly first class from this airport. If you say the first class line works for elites too, I'll have to try fit next time, even though I won't be in United First.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:51 am

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 12):
If 2 hours and 15 minutes early wasn't enough than I don't know what is.

We recommend 2.5 hours prior to departure. Check our confirmation and terms and conditions.

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 12):
1st Allegiant needs to better schedule their flights out of LAS so they are spread out or get at least twice as many agents would solve that problem too.

Why would we change our LAS schedule? It works. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 12):
2nd The security lines at the C concourse (southwest airlines) were not long at all and the D concourse was crazy.

WN has C gates. US has A&B gates. Everyone else has D. So in line with all the Allegiant passengers are Delta, Continental, jetBlue, Frontier, Spirit, and Ted. So if you were flying Ted (United) you would have been in the same line.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:16 am

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 12):
Allegiant had 14 flights leaving at around the same time at LAS on Sunday July 8th

14 flights? that's interesting since they only have 11 departures between 6am and 940am.
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:41 am

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 13):
When Terminal 3 opens up in a few years, that should alleviate a good chunk of the security problems at the D concourse

Who will be moving to T3 when it is complete? Will Concourse D then start having assiged gates to airlines?
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:11 am

Quoting National757 (Reply 9):
Good to hear about your experience on Allegiant. Can we expect a trip report in the near future?

I hope to get that up soon!
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vega

Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:18 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 16):
Quoting Joeljack (Reply 12):
Allegiant had 14 flights leaving at around the same time at LAS on Sunday July 8th

14 flights? that's interesting since they only have 11 departures between 6am and 940am.

That's just what the check in guy said...I didn't actually verify it myself. I just trusted him.

Quoting G4resagent (Reply 15):
Quoting Joeljack (Reply 12):
If 2 hours and 15 minutes early wasn't enough than I don't know what is.

We recommend 2.5 hours prior to departure. Check our confirmation and terms and conditions.

2.5 hours is crazy. From someone that flies about once a month for the past 10 years, I have never arrived more than 90 minutes prior to departure except for right after 9/11 and only missed a flight once and it was because I thought the flight was an hour later in my head. Even then 90 minutes was still over kill. This includes several trips to long security wait airports like MCO, DCA, LAS, PHX, SEA and on and on. Allegiant needs to get more agents to help solve the problem before they start loosing too many customers.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:51 am

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 19):
2.5 hours is crazy.

For what its worth, NW suggests arriving 2 hours early at LAS.
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:07 am

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 14):
As a United Premier Exec, I enjoy cutting security lines but the one in LAS is only for first class and not elites. United flies Ted on all flights to LAS so unfortunately I don't have the option to fly first class from this airport. If you say the first class line works for elites too, I'll have to try fit next time, even though I won't be in United First.

I've had seat 25G on a plane before and flashed an expired Delta Silver card (since Delta hasn't bothered sending me my card for this year yet, despite my profile and boarding passes all saying Silver on it) and they checker didn't even raise an eyebrow.

At least for my next trip to LAS, I'm already confirmed in F due to being on a full Y ticket with an auto-upgrade to F, so it won't be a problem.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:39 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 7):

Huntsville to Orlando ... ?

Oops, I thought that was LAS-SFB, not HSV-SFB

Quoting G4resagent (Reply 15):

We recommend 2.5 hours prior to departure.

Which is absolutely ridiculous, particularly if you are going somewhere like Santa Maria.
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:52 am

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 19):
Allegiant needs to get more agents to help solve the problem before they start loosing too many customers.

We don't seem to be losing too many customers based on the 2.5 hour check in.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
Which is absolutely ridiculous, particularly if you are going somewhere like Santa Maria.

Who else flies non-stop to SMX?
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:32 am

Although some may think that Allegiant having a 2.5 hour recommendation is extreme, do not forget they serve the leisure traveller.

G4 will see many more once a year or less airline passengers who don't know all the ins and outs of travel. They won't have the frequent flier or the kiosk user who knows what to do to speed things up.

Quoting G4resagent (Reply 23):
Who else flies non-stop to SMX?

From LAS? no one. But SMX has United Express flights from LAX.
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:48 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 24):
Although some may think that Allegiant having a 2.5 hour recommendation is extreme, do not forget they serve the leisure traveller.

G4 will see many more once a year or less airline passengers who don't know all the ins and outs of travel. They won't have the frequent flier or the kiosk user who knows what to do to speed things up.

I agree 100% except for the people that live in LAS. They could really get a loyal base built up if they improved their customer service there. Adding some self service check-in's would be nice (maybe there was some but I just missed them) They really cut down on employment costs.

I bet a friend of mine that travels on Allegiant from LAS to springfield, MO about once a month would love the self service thing!
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:09 am

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 25):
love the self service thing!

I would love to see that 2. It could speed it up a little and it would be nice to see a FF program. ONe where you would have to fly like 4 R/T to get a ticket or something. They could call it something like "Sunshine."
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:10 am

Quoting G4resagent (Reply 23):

Who else flies non-stop to SMX?

It starts to become just as easy to drive at this point.
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:35 am

I'm not sure since I don't work CSR but I thought we started using McCarran's self-serve kiosks for check-in when we moved into our new ticket counter. Or did that not happen?

Hopefully we'll be getting some more gates assigned to us with the completion of both the D-terminal expansion (9 gates added) and Terminal 3 (14 gates added). Gates D1, D3, and D4 are ours now, and we use D5, D6 (county gate), D7, D32 (county gate) just about every day as well. Oh, and Frontier's and Alaska's once in while too.

As for aircraft, we've got six more coming - three of them next month. That'll bring us to 35 aircraft. Induction and conformity and maintenance planning have been very busy this year.

As for staffing, we are hiring. Boy are we hiring. Step up and find out what you're made of.  Smile
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RE: Allegiant Announces Huntsville (AL) - Las Vegas

Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:40 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 27):
It starts to become just as easy to drive at this point.

A 6 hour drive is just as easy? Boy you really are against the extra 30-60 minutes they request.  Wink
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