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Boeing's Paint Shop At Paine Field

Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:11 am

Lately, I have noticed all the new 777's & the last 2 747's after the UPS 747-400 have not been painted, and have been test flown in the green primer scheme. Is there a problem with the factory paint shop that had been responsibile for painting all these new build planes, or is Boeing painting them elsewhere.
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:14 am

Quoting Xms3200 (Thread starter):
and have been test flown in the green primer scheme.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought all first test flights were done in the green scheme.


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Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:19 am

Quoting UnknownUser (Reply 1):
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought all first test flights were done in the green scheme.

Quite a few 737's are, but it used to be very rare to see a green widebody.

Now it is quite common.

Boeing is using facilities in PDX and VCV to help in the backlog, the 747 paint booth still has SAM28000 in it, under lock and key.
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:46 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
the 747 paint booth still has SAM28000 in it, under lock and key.

What is 'SAM28000'?
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:48 am

SAM28000 is Airforce One
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:22 am

Is that the reason for all this backlog - SAM28000. Any idea what is is doing at Boeing other than getting a new paint job.
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:23 am

Quoting Xms3200 (Reply 5):
Is that the reason for all this backlog - SAM28000

That, and the 767 bay is being refurbed.
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:27 am

Quoting Teneriffe77 (Reply 4):
SAM28000 is Airforce One

Whats the story on the name.
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:51 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Whats the story on the name.
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i think the SAM stands for Special Air Mission ,
I dont know the story on the number , maybe serial numbers .
I know there was a 707 SAM26000 at some point
Im sure someone else here know more information
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:00 am

Saw the picture of VT-ALC already in the new colours, how about the VT-ALA, ALB?? Are they being painted as we speak??

When is AI planning to get them to India for regular ops?
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:40 am

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 9):
Saw the picture of VT-ALC already in the new colours, how about the VT-ALA, ALB?? Are they being painted as we speak??

VT-ALA went down to VCV on July 6th presumably for a paint job.

At the time of this post, I don't think VT-ALB has even flown once (looks like first flight is scheduled for later today).

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 9):
When is AI planning to get them to India for regular ops?

They will need two -200LRs to support their announced daily BOM-JFK service starting on August 1st. So if that service date is not going to slip, we know they will get at least two (probably -ALC and -ALA) will be before Aug 1st. The Aug 1st is allegedly important to AI because 9W starts US services via BRU on Aug 5th.
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SAM28000 is Airforce One

[pedant]Air Force One is the call sign of any USAF aircraft only when the President is aboard.[/pedant]

Quoting Worldsurfer (Reply 8):
I dont know the story on the number , maybe serial numbers .
I know there was a 707 SAM26000 at some point

Yes, serials. The VC-137s (707s) were 62-6000 and 72-7000, the VC-25s (747s) are 82-8000 and 92-9000. First 2 digits are the fiscal year budget.

BUT...
An aircraft is sometimes listed in a given FY block when it was actually ordered in a different FY. This is most often done for reasons of special convenience. For example, the serials of the two "Air Force One" VC-137s (62-6000 and 72-7000) might indicate that they were ordered ten years apart, whereas the actual difference was only seven years. The Presidential VC-25s were ordered in FY 1986 under the serials 86-8800 and 86-8900, but these numbers were changed to 82-8000 and 92-9000 by special order to create a series following the two earlier VC-137Cs.

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Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:06 am

While we're talking about SAM28000. I friend of mine who just transferred to Andrews AFB to fly Gulfstreams says a C-32 came back from maintenance with winglets cause Boeing screwed up and installed them on the wrong airplane.
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 9):
Saw the picture of VT-ALC already in the new colours, how about the VT-ALA, ALB?? Are they being painted as we speak?

On Monday and Tuesday one of the AI 77Ls in the new colors was in the 747 assembly bay (Building 40-22), but she was back out on the flight line this morning.

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 12):
While we're talking about SAM28000. I friend of mine who just transferred to Andrews AFB to fly Gulfstreams says a C-32 came back from maintenance with winglets cause Boeing screwed up and installed them on the wrong airplane.

There was a C-32 here at PAE a few weeks ago that did have winglets, but I don't recall if she arrived with them...
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:25 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Whats the story on the name.
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Quoting Visityyj (Reply 11):
[pedant]Air Force One is the call sign of any USAF aircraft only when the President is aboard.[/pedant]

Mel,

As Wingsurfer and Visityyj pointed out, AF One is only called when the Prez. in on board.

Trivia - When Nixon resigned, he departed on AF One from Andrews Air Force Base and when Gerald Ford was sworn in as the President, somewhere over Kansas, the this aircraft lost it's designation of AF ONE and became SAM27000.
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:34 am

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 12):
a C-32 came back from maintenance with winglets cause Boeing screwed up and installed them on the wrong airplane.

Goodrich has a contract with the DoD to provide C checks on the C-32 fleet, so I believe Goodrich is the ones who installed the winglets...

Quoting Stitch (Reply 13):
There was a C-32 here at PAE a few weeks ago that did have winglets

Was she at Goodrich Hanger 2 (The one by the ATC tower)?

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Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:45 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
Quite a few 737's are, but it used to be very rare to see a green widebody.

I don't know much about widebodies, but most 737s are flown on their B1 (First flight) without paint and are green. The planes are typically painted between the B1 and C1 flight, but on occasion there are exceptions. It's very rare to get a painted 737 at Renton Field.

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Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:50 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 16):
It's very rare to get a painted 737 at Renton Field.

They started painting 737's at Renton when the 757 line closed. It is not very rare to see a painted 737 at Renton any more...

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Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 16):
I don't know much about widebodies, but all 737s are flown on their B1 (First flight) without paint and are green.

About 1 in 6 are painted before the leave RNT
 
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:04 am

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About 1 in 6 are painted before the leave RNT

Really? I've only seen 1 painted 737 at RNT in the last month, so I'm surprised hear that. I think every plane there now is green. I didn't think it was that common, but more of a rarity.
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:54 pm

The couple weeks I've been seeing some of the "green" Boeing widebodies here at PDX and going to the AMC Hangar next to Horizon's. Glad to know some more of the background behind. I hope they keep coming down. Adds a little variety to the airport.
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:48 am

so AF1 is currently being locked in a paint shed at Paine Field??? I bet boeing will be getting a good profit from this otherwise they wont of done it!!

Also about the 737.... I thought on their first flight they leave Renton and go to Boeing field for testing and painting then delivery (after interior is fitted)?? I thought this was the case because Renton has a very small runway and to allow residents some peace and quiet
 
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Quoting Worldsurfer (Reply 8):
i think the SAM stands for Special Air Mission



Quoting Aarbee (Reply 14):
As Wingsurfer and Visityyj pointed out, AF One is only called when the Prez. in on board.

Trivia - When Nixon resigned, he departed on AF One from Andrews Air Force Base and when Gerald Ford was sworn in as the President, somewhere over Kansas, the this aircraft lost it's designation of AF ONE and became SAM27000

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:46 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 19):
Really? I've only seen 1 painted 737 at RNT in the last month, so I'm surprised hear that. I think every plane there now is green. I didn't think it was that common, but more of a rarity.

My wife and I tend to walk the Cedar River trail a few times a week in the evenings, and there's usually at least one painted 737 down there - typically parked on the airport side of the river. I've also seen fully-painted planes moving from the bay closest to the kayak rental place (far northwest corner of the plant, doors facing due east). I was always under the impression that they did final checkout there prior to first flight.

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 21):
I thought this was the case because Renton has a very small runway and to allow residents some peace and quiet

I believe Boeing and the City of Renton have an agreement that Boeing won't conduct flight test out of RNT, and that 737s won't land there. When BFI was closed for runway improvements last summer, all hell broke loose from the bizjets coming in and out of RNT. Apparently BFI is scheduled for more runway work in the next few weeks, so it'll be interesting to see what the Renton Renton Reporter has to say about that.
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:46 am

Quoting Cpw (Reply 23):
I believe Boeing and the City of Renton have an agreement that Boeing won't conduct flight test out of RNT, and that 737s won't land there. When BFI was closed for runway improvements last summer, all hell broke loose from the bizjets coming in and out of RNT. Apparently BFI is scheduled for more runway work in the next few weeks, so it'll be interesting to see what the Renton Renton Reporter has to say about that.

well couldnt they just move the testing up to Paine field and get the aircraft painted up their or at other places.... This will help with the problems at Renton and Paine Field will see the whole B family for deliveries.

What about old McD place in California where the 717 was made?? Do Boeing still have any facilites down there still that could be used??
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:18 am

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 24):
well couldnt they just move the testing up to Paine field and get the aircraft painted up their or at other places.... This will help with the problems at Renton and Paine Field will see the whole B family for deliveries.

Boeing did send 737s up to PAE during the time BFI was unavailable.

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 24):
What about old McD place in California where the 717 was made?? Do Boeing still have any facilites down there still that could be used?

The 717 line is dead and buried, and I imagine so were the paint shops (assuming a 737 would fit in them).
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:47 am

Quoting Aarbee (Reply 14):
Trivia - When Nixon resigned, he departed on AF One from Andrews Air Force Base and when Gerald Ford was sworn in as the President, somewhere over Kansas, the this aircraft lost it's designation of AF ONE and became SAM27000.

And I believe ATC responded to the callsign change with a curt, but classy response. Something of the flavor, "our best to President Nixon and his wife."
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:59 am

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 21):
Also about the 737.... I thought on their first flight they leave Renton and go to Boeing field for testing and painting then delivery (after interior is fitted)?? I thought this was the case because Renton has a very small runway and to allow residents some peace and quiet

You are correct that a new 737 on its first flight will take off from Renton and then land at Boeing Field to complete the delivery process. There is a paint hangar at RNT, but only some of the new 737's are painted there before the first flight. Most are flown over to BFI unpainted and then the rest of the job is done in one of the paint hangars there. The interiors are all fitted at the Renton factory. All that takes place at BFI is painting, production flight test, and final delivery to the airline customers.
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:16 am

So when Bush's taxi leaves and the 767 bay is done will that mean the everything will return to normal in that all the new heavies will be painted in house and that'll be the last of the greenie flights (for the heavies)?

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:40 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 28):
So when Bush's taxi leaves and the 767 bay is done will that mean the everything will return to normal in that all the new heavies will be painted in house and that'll be the last of the greenie flights (for the heavies)?

I would expect for a bit that will be the case, but once the 787 starts being built en masse, I'm not sure two hangars will be enough...

Anyone know if they're using the 767 line to hold some 777s? Saw a plane with a red tail and nacelles in 40-24 yesterday. Figured it was a JL 767, but those don't have red nacelles. Was still in bare metal, so could not have been one of AI's current 772LRs (VT-ALC, I think, was in 40-22 earlier this week).
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:45 am

Thanks Chris.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 29):
Anyone know if they're using the 767 line to hold some 777s? Saw a plane with a red tail and nacelles in 40-24 yesterday. Figured it was a JL 767, but those don't have red nacelles. Was still in bare metal, so could not have been one of AI's current 772LRs (VT-ALC, I think, was in 40-22 earlier this week).

Won't be VT-ALC as that's already painted in the new NEW c/s. VT-ALA is at VCV being repainted and VT-ALB is on the ramp in full old new c/s.

I believe it's AIC B773ER VT-ALJ which has been sat about in the c/s you describe for a long time now.

Perhaps one of the PAE spotters can confirm?  Wink

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:54 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 30):
I believe it's AIC B773ER VT-ALJ which has been sat about in the c/s you describe for a long time now.

Perhaps one of the PAE spotters can confirm?  Wink

Alas, the weather has been cold and wet as of late, so when they even bother to open the hangar doors, they do not open them very wide...  Sad
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:03 am

Does anyone know if Boeing will continue to off-load airplanes to PDX for painting after SAM28000 leaves, or is this just a temporary thing? It's actually been nice seeing some different new airplanes here in Portland for a change and hope it continues.
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:15 am

Quoting NDSchu777 (Reply 32):
Does anyone know if Boeing will continue to off-load airplanes to PDX for painting after SAM28000 leaves, or is this just a temporary thing? It's actually been nice seeing some different new airplanes here in Portland for a change and hope it continues.

I asked that in reply 28 above!

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:08 am

So, what exactly is happening with SAM28000? It doesn't take several months to paint plane... are they doing other modifications there?
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:40 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 34):
So, what exactly is happening with SAM28000? It doesn't take several months to paint plane... are they doing other modifications there?

It's been discussed quite a lot recently, but in bits across different threads. The general opinion seems to be that the paint job has to be absolutely perfect which will take time to get right and there was also mention that whilst it's "in" it gets various system upgrades too, which all takes time.

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:33 am

When VT-ALC was sent to VCV, she was there for a very long time.
Now VT-ALA has spent almost two weeks at VCV.
It certainly seems that the aircraft are/were painted much faster at PAE.
Anyone know why the long times at VCV? Are they very busy down there?

On a related point of note, it looks like VT-ALB made her maiden flight today.
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...and TNTs third 744ERF is just back from paint at PDX in full Emirates Sky Cargo livery !!!!!!!!!!!!!  spin 

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:17 am

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 12):
While we're talking about SAM28000. I friend of mine who just transferred to Andrews AFB to fly Gulfstreams says a C-32 came back from maintenance with winglets cause Boeing screwed up and installed them on the wrong airplane.

Get out!!!! That can't be real!  Wink

Ok, I've got a question about painting the rudder only on a/c: I do know it's usually painted first in order to make sure it's balanced correctly, but what would happen if this 773 did not get delivered to EK? Would the rudder have to be removed, sanded down, and repainted? Or, even more curiously, would it have to be discarded? Thanks!


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Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:39 am

Quoting Xms3200 (Thread starter):
green primer scheme

I'm not too sure if that green colour is primer as such. I remember fitting a cargo handling equipment control panel door to an aircraft once, and it was covered in the same greenish-blue material. What it actually is, is thin coat of plastic material that is applied (sprayed on??) to protect the aluminium from scratching. I remember trying to peel the stuff off for a good half an hour, but I just couldn't get a corner up like you do with a sticker.

I finally gave up and went to the sheetie shop for help. To remove that coating, you need to use a solvent such as acetone, which literally wipes off the coating leaving beautiful, shiny bare aluminium underneath. The bare aluminium is then treated with iridite, primed and top coated with the final paint colour.

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:15 am

Quoting Pr1268 (Reply 38):
Or, even more curiously, would it have to be discarded?

Rudders are NOT discarded because they need to be repainted.
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:50 am

Quoting Pr1268 (Reply 38):
Ok, I've got a question about painting the rudder only on a/c: I do know it's usually painted first in order to make sure it's balanced correctly, but what would happen if this 773 did not get delivered to EK? Would the rudder have to be removed, sanded down, and repainted? Or, even more curiously, would it have to be discarded? Thanks!

rudders are not painted for balance so much as you can't really paint them correctly with them on. So one would assume it would be removed, repainted, and re-installed. Bit of work, but not a huge deal overall when looking at the cost to paint a airframe and get it ready for service. More importantly if its what you have to do, its what you have to do.
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:17 pm

Quoting JetMech (Reply 39):
I finally gave up and went to the sheetie shop for help. To remove that coating, you need to use a solvent such as acetone, which literally wipes off the coating leaving beautiful, shiny bare aluminium underneath. The bare aluminium is then treated with iridite, primed and top coated with the final paint colour.

Yup. Boeing hoses the coating off prior to prepping the plane for paint.

On Monday or Tuesday, a 777 was in the paint shop but was already fulled masked, so I don't know who is getting it.

Also, El Al's latest 772ER has been moved in front of the paint shop, so perhaps the current 777 in their is about ready to come out.
 
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:20 pm

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 21):
I thought on their first flight they leave Renton and go to Boeing field for testing and painting then delivery (after interior is fitted)?? I thought this was the case because Renton has a very small runway and to allow residents some peace and quiet

The interior is almost always fitted in the factory. The only time that it isn't completed is when the seats or similar components arrive late and they have to be installed at the field.

Renton Field isn't large enough for the full flight testing program. Boeing Field does the preparation work after the first flight. Subsequent flights always leave from BFI.

Quoting Cpw (Reply 23):
My wife and I tend to walk the Cedar River trail a few times a week in the evenings, and there's usually at least one painted 737 down there - typically parked on the airport side of the river.

From what I understand, each specific plane is parked in a specific spot for its entire duration at Renton Field (5 days usually). They do not move the planes between different stands. I don't think that a painted one would likely be at anyone stand more than another.
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:56 pm

Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 41):
Quoting Pr1268 (Reply 38):
Ok, I've got a question about painting the rudder only on a/c: I do know it's usually painted first in order to make sure it's balanced correctly, but what would happen if this 773 did not get delivered to EK? Would the rudder have to be removed, sanded down, and repainted? Or, even more curiously, would it have to be discarded? Thanks!

rudders are not painted for balance so much as you can't really paint them correctly with them on. So one would assume it would be removed, repainted, and re-installed. Bit of work, but not a huge deal overall when looking at the cost to paint a airframe and get it ready for service. More importantly if its what you have to do, its what you have to do.

They strip the paint with a special paint remover. They NEVER use sandpaper, although it is common to use 3M Scotch Brite pads to clean the oxides off the aluminum. You never use steel wool either -- it leaves rust marks on the aluminum that are hard to get out.

Interesting that you don't need to static balance the control surfaces after painting. I always did. Great way to avoid flutter, which can happen. The requirement for painting the rudder off the aircraft depends on the the maintenance manual for the aircraft (required in FAR 23.1529 and 25.1529). Most aircraft I have help paint required it, but I know it isn't always done. As for painting the rudder, it is as easy to do it on the plane as any other surface, a but the static balancing procedure usually requires that the rudder lay flat, which is why it is taken off and painted, not because it is easier to paint, but because you have to take it off anyhow. Of course if you want, I suppose you could put the airplane on its side, but that is usually a bit difficult to do, so you should probably take it off.

You really should check the static balance of all the control surfaces after painting regardless, and even more so for the prop. I would advise anyone thinking about painting the prop to take it to a prop shop for a balance check, but then again I know that that is not always done. And then again, we do have strange accidents now and then.
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RE: Boeing's Paint Shop At Paine Field

Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:18 am

Quoting WestWing (Reply 36):
Now VT-ALA has spent almost two weeks at VCV.

It's due back at PAE this afternoon and VT-ALB is due to head down there at some point today to have its turn with the brush.  

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[Edited 2007-07-20 18:20:10]
 
rverginia
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RE: Boeing's Paint Shop At Paine Field

Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:16 am

[quote=KBFIspotter,reply=15]Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 12):
a C-32 came back from maintenance with winglets cause Boeing screwed up and installed them on the wrong airplane.

Good one...

Quoting Stitch (Reply 13):
There was a C-32 here at PAE a few weeks ago that did have winglets

You are correct. Actually, there were (2) C-32s at the Goodrich facility: 99-0004 29028/829 and 98-0001 29025/783, going through their c-checks and getting winglets installed. I took some shots of them (which a.net didn't seem fit to print) that I will add to my Flickr page. In the mean time, enjoy my 787 rollout shots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rverginia/
 
rverginia
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RE: Boeing's Paint Shop At Paine Field

Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:11 am

Quoting Rverginia (Reply 46):
You are correct. Actually, there were (2) C-32s at the Goodrich facility: 99-0004 29028/829 and 98-0001 29025/783, going through their c-checks and getting winglets installed. I took some shots of them (which a.net didn't seem fit to print) that I will add to my Flickr page. In the mean time, enjoy my 787 rollout shots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rverginia/

I have added the shots to Flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rverginia/
 
lhpdx
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RE: Boeing's Paint Shop At Paine Field

Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:53 am

Boeing signed a 15 year lease for those two hangers at PDX for painting...I'm sure well be seeing a variety of Boeing aircraft here for many years...............
 
XT6Wagon
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RE: Boeing's Paint Shop At Paine Field

Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:23 am

Quoting Poitin (Reply 44):
As for painting the rudder, it is as easy to do it on the plane as any other surface

Mostly thinking of the hell that is painting the section shrouded by the vertical stabilizer. I guess I should have been more clear, most state balancing the rudder as a sole reason for its removal. I was trying to state that there is many reasons that add up to, "just pull it off and paint it".

I can't imagine it takes very long to pull off a rudder in a properly equipped hanger.

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