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Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:40 am

Hey, I have a question . . . where, if allowed, in the terminals of an airport can one plug a laptop as oppossed to running the battery down? Is it even legal to plug into an open power point say in the gate area? I was thinking of maybe a "business center" in the airport. I'm flying to ATL and may end up spending some time in the airport on the way back home and would like to use the laptop . . . Thanks,
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:46 am

There are many Delta charging stations around the terminals just for that possibility, you can always snag an outlet at the gates of course...

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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:48 am

There are laptop stations in SIN where you can charge up, however you need to provide your own charger.
 
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:05 am

It's hit or miss at most US airports. There are usually a few outlets, good luck finding an open one!
 
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:10 am

is snagging an outlet frowned upon?
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:38 am

I've snagged outlets many times at too many airports to count. Nobody's had a problem with it, and I've seen several other people doing it too. As long as you don't unplug anything or go behind counters or anything like that, it's not an issue. There are normally a few outlets in each gate area, often by poles or along the non-windowed walls. Sometimes it takes a bit of hunting, but it shouldn't be a problem.

In ATL, there are the Relax and Recharge Stations on each concourse (often by the midpoint on A and B; by T5 on the T gates; not sure of C and E). Also, there are the automatic trash cans throughout the airport - these plug into the poles, and there is often an outlet available by there that you can use.

And of course, for $25, you can use the Crown Room, which has a pretty good number of outlets.
 
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:32 am

Diverging a little off-topic.

Dont try this at work if you work for FR! They banned staff from charging their cellphones at work a couple of years ago.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:16 am

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 6):
Dont try this at work if you work for FR! They banned staff from charging their cellphones at work a couple of years ago.

They too cheap to pay for the electricity???  Wink

To make sure you have access to a plug in at the airport, it is a good idea to take a multiple plug with you in case both of the power outlet are in use by others charging their laptops.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:24 am

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 7):
To make sure you have access to a plug in at the airport, it is a good idea to take a multiple plug with you in case both of the power outlet are in use by others charging their laptops.

In fact, this is the best advice. It's not so much finding an electrical outlet, it's finding one that's not already being used. Take a small one into two adaptor with you.

Careful not to unplug anything. I was ATL once, I was down to 5% battery, and the only outlet had a big red plug in it. I unplugged it - and all the runway lights went out ... needless to say, I plugged it straight back in again! Only a couple of go-arounds.


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Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:02 am

In the UK I understand it's technically not allowed, something along the lines of 'extracting electricity without authority' could in theory be thrown at you. In reality, the worst thing that could happen is somebody will tell you to stop using the power point. I think you're more likely to be pulled up about it if you have a power cable trailing somewhere others could trip over it (which I have seen). As long as you're sensible about it and don't do it under the wrong people's nose you should be ok.
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:36 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 8):
Careful not to unplug anything. I was ATL once, I was down to 5% battery, and the only outlet had a big red plug in it. I unplugged it - and all the runway lights went out ... needless to say, I plugged it straight back in again! Only a couple of go-arounds.

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Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:40 am

Hunt arround....Most terminals have outlets for cleaners to plug vaccuums into and such...they are not always obvious but when you find them there is usually no one using them as they didn ot see them.

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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:26 am

Go ahead and use a free one by all means! I have done it countless times as well and no one has ever said anything other than to ask if it was ok to use the other plug. The only caution I would give is that the 2348320948 times that a vacuum has been plugged into the outlet usually means it is in pretty dodgy condition!
 
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:37 am

While I am in Atlanta I use Delta's "Relax and Recharge" stations to plug in my laptop. I have snagged outlets at the gate area and have never had any problems. I have even had employees smile at me when they have seen me do it.

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Careful not to unplug anything. I was ATL once, I was down to 5% battery, and the only outlet had a big red plug in it. I unplugged it - and all the runway lights went out ... needless to say, I plugged it straight back in again! Only a couple of go-arounds.

Hmmmm, Sounds fishy. Where was this located? I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

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Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:41 am

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
Hmmmm, Sounds fishy. Where was this located? I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:04 am

I dont think pax should use plugs outside of the designated areas such as the previously mentioned Relax & Recharge stations or airline lounges.

While in the UK all airport staff have the authority to challenge pax or people not displaying thier pass for any reason we see fit, I have yet to ask anyone why they're so cheap as to have not charged thier laptop and why they're using it outside of the business lounge - if they're so important to have a laptop why are they not in there?

It is in effect stealing from the Airport Authority or Airline. Its not like we help ourselves to your wash kits or clothes in the bags you give us. It might seem that way sometimes but 9/10 times its an accident that it has been opened.

Also - ATL, dont think I'll be flying in there if indeed it turns out pax have access to a red plug that operates the runway lights. In BHD ATC control the lights but theres no plugs for them, they're wired direct to thier power source using underground cables - as I image they would be in most airports.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:20 am

According to ATL airport website, there are 'Laptop Lanes' in Concourses A, B & T which offer wired internet access for laptops. Presumably there'll be a place to charge your laptop there as well.
 
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:21 am

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
I dont think pax should use plugs outside of the designated areas such as the previously mentioned Relax & Recharge stations or airline lounges.

Hey where I work, if you can find one in the first place use it!!

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Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:10 am

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I dont think pax should use plugs outside of the designated areas such as the previously mentioned Relax & Recharge stations or airline lounges.

I cant speak for British Policies but their is no policy that I know of in the U.S. that prohibits us from doing this.

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According to ATL airport website, there are 'Laptop Lanes' in Concourses A, B & T which offer wired internet access for laptops. Presumably there'll be a place to charge your laptop there as well.

Laptop lane is great. You get a private comfortable small office, T-1 Line, computer, ect. but you have to pay.

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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:57 am

Quoting Catdaddy63 (Reply 3):
It's hit or miss at most US airports. There are usually a few outlets, good luck finding an open one!

-- or in some cases, ones that work. At RIC, I found one (by COs gates) where the bottom half didn't work at all, and the top half only workd if you wiggled it just right. At LAX near gate 64 I found one (near the restrooms) that worked, but fell out (bare wire exposed) as soon as I tuched it.

At CLE, I've seen a few with yellow "OUT OF SERVICE" tags on them. The end of C (the rotunda) has the highest concentration of available outlets I can remember seeing, though IAH's E22 wasn't too shabby

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

I wouldn't think you could get a receptical with a high enough current rating....

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
why they're so cheap as to have not charged thier laptop and why they're using it outside of the business lounge - if they're so important to have a laptop why are they not in there?

Ahhh...so many assumptions there... like that the battery wasn't charged when you started the 18 hour day... or that you're cheap... or that one actually has a desire to be found in the isolation of a business lounge.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:17 am

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
I dont think pax should use plugs outside of the designated areas such as the previously mentioned Relax & Recharge stations or airline lounges.

While in the UK all airport staff have the authority to challenge pax or people not displaying thier pass for any reason we see fit, I have yet to ask anyone why they're so cheap as to have not charged thier laptop and why they're using it outside of the business lounge - if they're so important to have a laptop why are they not in there?

There's nothing wrong with using them throughout the terminal. Why not use them if it's in a publicly accessible place - it's one thing if it's in an area that should be employees-only or to remove something that's already plugged in, but if it's right there next to the seats in the gate area, why not use it?

As for charging it, when I'm traveling, it's not always possible to have my laptop charged at all times. If I'm on a plane using my laptop, it might wear it down. If there's powerports on the plane, I use them (I've got an Empower adapter, a DC adapter and my regular AC adapter). But, my primary airline is Delta, and the routes I fly most (BOS-ATL; MHT-ATL; ATL-GSO) are mostly on 757s, MD-88s and CRJs - which don't have powerports (Delta doesn't use many of the TV-equipped 757s on BOS-ATL). On a 2 hour flight like BOS-ATL, my battery wears down quite a bit. If I want to use it on my next flight, I'm going to have to charge it somewhere.

As for the argument that it's stealing, I doubt that. Sure, you're using the airport's power. And to the airport, the amount of money spent on charging laptops at a gate versus a Relax and Recharge or a lounge is a fraction of 1% of the airport's electric budget. It's extremely miniscule when you consider that runway lights at these major airports are on 24/7 (and those are high-density lights that most likely use more energy than a lightbulb at your house); not to mention the power it takes to power concessions, airport lights in concourses, etc. The cost of 1000 people charging a laptop at a gate every day for 30 minutes is a drop in the bucket for many airports; even many of the mid-size and smaller airports. I'm sure the airports don't have a problem with it whatsoever.
 
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:24 am

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
Hmmmm, Sounds fishy



Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
Also - ATL, dont think I'll be flying in there if indeed it turns out pax have access to a red plug that operates the runway lights.

If you think that is bad, I unplugged a guy in a hospitol once. It's a good thing he had insurance, or it was for his wife in anycase. I learned my lesson on those red plugs.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
In the UK I understand it's technically not allowed, something along the lines of 'extracting electricity without authority' could in theory be thrown at you.

Thats because they can't tax it.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:59 pm

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 14):
Do you think maybe he was joking?

.........oh, maybe..
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:23 pm

I don't think its stealing. I'm paying for the right to use it. I would argue its covered in the payment of my Passenger Facility Charge. I'm already using a great deal of electricity (Proportionate share of runway lighting, air conditioning in the terminal, lights in the terminal, power for various automated people movers, etc). Airports have not made any attempt to stop people from using the power outlets in public unless the wire poses a danger to people tripping.

I mean, they could easily buy a cover with a key and install it on their outlets if they were adamant about people not using them. Honestly, I think this will be the next thing (along with free Wi-Fi) that airports will offer to attract airlines and customers. What's the sense of free wi-fi if everybody's battery is dead?
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:23 pm

Quoting Memphis (Thread starter):
I was thinking of maybe a "business center" in the airport.

Well, until the airline friendly fuel cell comes along, you'll have to resort to "socket hunting". Get to your gate early, and quickly scope out a socket and plug in. Be prepared to sit on the floor in the middle of traffic if needed.

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 8):
In fact, this is the best advice. It's not so much finding an electrical outlet, it's finding one that's not already being used. Take a small one into two adaptor with you.

Another great idea is to get USB chargers for all your cell phones, PDAs, razors and assorted electronics goods. That way, you only need one AC adaptor for your laptop.

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
Hmmmm, Sounds fishy. Where was this located? I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:58 pm

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 20):
(I've got an Empower adapter

You need an adapter for Empower ? I just use my normal US 2pin plug lead and my normal power supply, it works fine.

As for finding power, just go to the business class lounge and unplug when of the decorative table lamps - works a treat.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:10 pm

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 5):
And of course, for $25, you can use the Crown Room, which has a pretty good number of outlets.

In ATL there's a place called "Laptop Lane." I believe it is in concourse A or B one level up from the food court. Of course they charge for your services. As others have mentioned, grab a plug got yourself some free electricity. But, one caveat! Based on the lousy condition of my hometown airport concourse D, take a long a surge protector. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. With all the computers, air conditioning and other electrical needs power surges and losing power are more common than you think at least in my slummy concourse. And with this summer's preponderance for thunderstorms take extra caution.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:04 pm

I suppose there're plenty of outlets around the lounges as the cleaning staff have to plug their equipment (vacuums, brushes etc) somewhere.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
It is in effect stealing from the Airport Authority or Airline. Its not like we help ourselves to your wash kits or clothes in the bags you give us. It might seem that way sometimes but 9/10 times its an accident that it has been opened.

While not the initial reason the outlets were placed there (they were for vacuums), I'm sure the airport authorities are perfectly fine with passengers using outlets. I know at ORD and MIA, the outlets are easily accessible and usually right next to the seating areas at gates. Everyone uses them and I am sure that in this age, they are intentionally left available to passengers when cleaning is not needed.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:55 am

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):

It is in effect stealing from the Airport Authority or Airline. Its not like we help ourselves to your wash kits or clothes in the bags you give us. It might seem that way sometimes but 9/10 times its an accident that it has been opened.

You make it sound like passengers are stealing your personal supply of electricity, and depriving you of yours. Honestly, in the big picture, the amount of incremental electricity cost to BAA is basically nil.

BAA might as well charge for breathing the air inside the terminal. In that case, you could actually argue that passengers are depriving you of a minuscule amount of oxygen, but we'd all agree that that argument is absurd, right?
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:05 am

Quoting Birdbrainz (Reply 29):
BAA might as well charge for breathing the air inside the terminal. In that case, you could actually argue that passengers are depriving you of a minuscule amount of oxygen, but we'd all agree that that argument is absurd, right?

You're right, but technically they could probably argue it's stealing. After all, for more serious reasons laws exist to deter people from stealing a power supply that they don't pay for. As I mentioned above, however, staff are probably more likely to get annoyed at people causing a health and safety risk with power cables lying about, assuming you're not sat on the ground right next to the power socket.
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Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:41 am

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 30):
You're right, but technically they could probably argue it's stealing

They could argue anything, however, I would argue my points in post 23.
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Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:59 am

I have noticed that an increasing number of outlets are being covered with solid plates. I ask a friend that works at one of the airports doing this and he said that some of the covering is being done by the airlines and some by the airport. The reasons he offered (and I make no assumtions of accuracy):

1) it uses much more power than people think - given the frequency of use over a long day. And note above how many people have talked about how hard it is to find an open outlet. And any chance to save even a little money is important to budget tight airports and airlines;

2) there are concerns about liability if a pax trips over a cord and is injured. The way he explained it the "injured" is believed to sue the airline for not having a safe place - allowing hazzards, etc. I think this is a very USA phenom - we make money by suing other people for it;

3) the growth of places like laptop lane that can generate revenue for the same services - ie just like so many airlines/airports these day - if we can charge you for it - we will!

I did note that in Concourse B at ORD there appeared to be stations set up specifically to allow people to plug in the laptop - I did not notice if fee were associated, but I don't think those stations had internet access. Unfortunately due to multiple gate changes I spent my time walking and was unable to explore.

And for those that use empower adapters in flight - there are some airlines reducing the number of ports, or limiting the power draw as has been discussed in another thread. I was very disappointed that I could not plug in on my UA flight from ANC to ORD (in F mind you). There were covers screwed in over the empower port in the 4 seats I checked. I wanted to watch a dvd on my laptop but knew there was not sufficient battery to make it through the entire film.

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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:12 am

Quoting CO777ER (Reply 10):

Now on the otherhand, try using a US surge protector in Europe. The outcome is quite funny.

You do not need a surge protector for most all mobile phone and laptop power supplies, just a plug converter, if you look at most power supplies these days you will see they operate at up to 220Volts, so surge protectors are not needed.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:23 am

MSP recently redid the food court in northstar crossing so that there is a free power outlet at every seat.
 
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:40 am

Quoting NYC2theworld (Reply 31):
They could argue anything, however, I would argue my points in post 23.

Maybe, problem is this - they own the airport, not you. And, they set the rules, not you.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:14 am

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 35):
Maybe, problem is this - they own the airport, not you. And, they set the rules, not you.

...but their complacency in not posting any rules about not using power outlets would be an issue. You must make an effort to inform the users of your facility of the rules and reguations governing it so that they have a choice to use it or not. Since there is no rule specifically stating that it is not allowed, the assumption of the average person would be its ok to use as long as they do not disturb the normal operations of the facility.

Now on the other side of the coin... this could fall in some rule stating that no person on airport property may create a dangerous situtation for other airport users...

However, if the port in on a wall with a seat right in front of, I think the reasonable man would not see any danger in that.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:46 am

They have these Samsung laptop charging stations in every JFK terminal...it seems like the costs of running these things are supported by advertising.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:27 am

I know there is a place in PWM for you to do "Business" work, that is a sure fire bet.

I see people using the plugs in the terminal all the time, nobody ever says anything to them. MCO offers internet via free wi-fi if I recall correctly. DCA does, as well (I'm pretty sure). It seems free Wi-Fi is on the rise, so I'm sure if the airport is going to offer that option to you, they won't really care if you use the plugs in the terminal.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:47 am

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 38):
I know there is a place in PWM for you to do "Business" work, that is a sure fire bet.

Actually, now that you mention that, PLN (Pellston Regional Airport of Emmet County, Michigan) has a very nice "business center"-type area...completely free. Very comfortable chairs, desks, outlets, free wired and wireless internet access... Really, the only complaint is it's the one part of the airport where cell phones don't work worth a d-mn. Over the past three months I've probably spent nearly 15 hours working there while waiting for flights:

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Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:04 am

Quoting Birdbrainz (Reply 29):

While I understand like you BAA are out to get everything they can from pax I do not work for them or in one of thier airports. BAA used to stand for British Airport Authority as they owned the british airports, now they own a few and as such claim the letters BAA mean nothing.
I work for GBBCA a Ferrovial owned airport - they happen to own BAA too but theres no plans to merge. Ferrovial have been trying since they bought the airport to increase revenue while decreasing costs. As a result they have outsourced the despatch and ramp departments that once used to be staffed by BCA/Bombardier. Last I heard they wanted to outsource ATC to NATS.
As you might have noticed I said they wanted to reduce costs - and so using plugs is one cost. We dont have signs up telling pax not to use them but they are low on the walls and out of direct line of sight, you actually have to duck under a seat to find it.

Quoting NYC2theworld (Reply 23):

Its part of the culture I've grown up in that you dont use plugs without asking when outside of work or home.
Maybe now the airports will tackle your thinking with the same idea as BE's "Fair Deal on Baggage" - they reduced fares by £1 and started charging per hold bag checked in. Will we see next "Fair Deal on Power" where the appropriate APD is charged as to whether you do the norm and just travel through or are one of the select pax who searches for the plugs and believes as thier reward they should use it.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:05 pm

Quoting Planeguy727 (Reply 32):
2) there are concerns about liability if a pax trips over a cord and is injured. The way he explained it the "injured" is believed to sue the airline for not having a safe place - allowing hazzards, etc. I think this is a very USA phenom - we make money by suing other people for it;3) the growth of places like laptop lane that can generate revenue for the same services - ie just like so many airlines/airports these day - if we can charge you for it - we will!

I'll agree on both points. One should not create a hazard.

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 40):
While I understand like you BAA are out to get everything they can from pax I do not work for them or in one of thier airports. BAA used to stand for British Airport Authority as they owned the british airports, now they own a few and as such claim the letters BAA mean nothing.

I was using BAA losely. I should have said, "the folks who run the airport."

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 40):
Its part of the culture I've grown up in that you dont use plugs without asking when outside of work or home.Maybe now the airports will tackle your thinking with the same idea as BE's "Fair Deal on Baggage" - they reduced fares by £1 and started charging per hold bag checked in. Will we see next "Fair Deal on Power" where the appropriate APD is charged as to whether you do the norm and just travel through or are one of the select pax who searches for the plugs and believes as thier reward they should use it.

Have you even been to a cafe with internet access? This is really not a big deal. I've never been asked to stop charging my laptop in a terminal. It's funny. I was a DFW once, and a pilot was plugged into the outlet next to me charging his phone.

An APD charge is fine, as long as they start to make a reasonable number available. They'd quickly find that laptops, while charging are 50-100 watts, and are using that power for maybe 3-4 hrs per user at a maximum. Let's say that 100 people are using them in a terminal, which is generous. We're at only 5-10kW for probably half of the day. That level of electricty usage is less than one of the many chillers used to cool the terminal, never mind all of lights, and other computers that the airline uses.

Feel free to dispute the acutal numbers I use, but honestly, this is a drop in the bucket compared to other costs. Why not just get rid of the carpet while we're at it?
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:12 pm

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 40):
we see next "Fair Deal on Power" where the appropriate APD is charged as to whether you do the norm and just travel through or are one of the select pax who searches for the plugs and believes as thier reward they should use it.

Which would then defeat the purpose of providing free wi-fi. I think free wi-fi with

Quoting Max999 (Reply 37):
They have these Samsung laptop charging stations in every JFK terminal...it seems like the costs of running these things are supported by advertising.
http://digital50.com/news/items/PR/2....html

is going to be the way to go.
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:19 am

Quoting Birdbrainz (Reply 41):
Why not just get rid of the carpet while we're at it?

At STN that would actually be a fantastic idea - most of the carpet in the airport is filthy and has chewing gum mashed into it. And it stinks. Anyway, I digress off topic....
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afay1
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:23 am

And of course there aren't any airport employees anywhere that use outlets to recharge their own electronic devices (the ones who aren't too busy rifling through your luggage)?  Wink
 
kalvado
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:14 am

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
I have yet to ask anyone why they're so cheap as to have not charged thier laptop and why they're using it outside of the business lounge - if they're so important to have a laptop why are they not in there?

It is in effect stealing from the Airport Authority or Airline. Its not like we help ourselves to your wash kits or clothes in the bags you give us.

Quick calculation:
50 W charger, 1 hr connection (and my laptop is drained while on board) - 0.05 kWh, with my last electric bill of $80 for 440 kWh - that's something like 1 cent worth of electricity. Oh, and I just paid airport something like $10 in fees..

OK, put a hat at the gate, I'll drop some spare change to cover those costs.
 
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:29 am

Quoting AirSpare (Reply 21):
Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
Also - ATL, dont think I'll be flying in there if indeed it turns out pax have access to a red plug that operates the runway lights.

If you think that is bad, I unplugged a guy in a hospitol once. It's a good thing he had insurance, or it was for his wife in anycase. I learned my lesson on those red plugs.

Amateurs. I have you all beat. I once almost unplugged a 747 from the sky. I was in the toilet and noticed a big red and orange plug with a "Do not Remove" sign. naturally I removed the plug to see what would happen. The engines immediately went dead and the plane plumetted a couple thousand feet. I immediately pushed the plug back in, the engines started up again and the plane recovered from it's dive. True story.
 
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:22 am

LGB is one of the more laptop-friendly terminals I've come across. I don't think they still have free wireless, but there are quite a few outlets in the terminal, along the back wall.

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
Hmmmm, Sounds fishy. Where was this located? I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

Between the Chick-Fil-A and the Burger King. I think the fire marshall made them move it, though, because it was a trip hazard.
 
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:36 am

I have snagged outlets in the gate area at lhr waiting for a flight  Smile

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OB1504
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RE: Power For Laptop In Terminals?

Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:44 am

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 14):
Do you think maybe he was joking?

Do you think maybe all the runway lights at an international airport aren't controlled by a single plug?

Quoting N328KF (Reply 28):
I know at ORD and MIA, the outlets are easily accessible and usually right next to the seating areas at gates. Everyone uses them and I am sure that in this age, they are intentionally left available to passengers when cleaning is not needed.

I've used them tons of times at MIA, and I've never been told that it isn't allowed. Like other users, I always sit as close as I can to the outlet so there's no chance of tripping anyone... unless they try to walk through the two inch space between my seat and the column where the outlet is.

A nice, secluded area with an outlet is right by the escalators at that lead to the Admirals Club in Concourse A. Walk away from the Admirals Club until you get to the end of the hallway, and you should find two or three outlets and a great view of the ramp.